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Massive internal conflict re therapy/therapist....again!

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barefoot

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For the past 18 months-ish, I’ve been seeing my therapist once a fortnight for an hour per session. A few months ago, we seemed to be dipping a toe in to some interesting an important stuff re relationship dynamics and some weird things when I was a kid etc so I was thinking it would be good to return to weekly sessions to build some momentum around those things and start touching into trauma more. But I couldn’t afford to do that, so kept to fortnightly, then some here and now stuff came up around work so we parked the other stuff and focused there for a few sessions, which was useful.

After my summer holiday, I wanted to refocus on the relationship/trauma stuff, told her that and we booked a double session in to kick things back off.

And then my mum died very suddenly and unexpectedly so the agenda for that double session then changed.

That was a month ago and, in those four weeks, I have gone to therapy every week for two hour sessions.

I have a one hour session booked in for tomorrow and then have hour long sessions booked in for every week for the rest of this month. Was then thinking I’d probably go back to fortnightly sessions.

She has been very caring and supportive re my mother’s death. Up until last session she had been very in touch, texting to check in most days. She has also been very insistent that I can text her whenever I like - she has actively encouraged me to keep in touch - and that, if I need to talk, I can just phone her including evenings and weekends (which I haven’t done)

Last session, I basically spent two hours factually debriefing the funeral. And I said I wasn’t really thinking about Mum and she said that it was fine that I wasn’t wanting/feeling able to process the loss/connect to my feelings about it yet.

I also told her that I had been dreaming about her quite a bit lately (my therapist, not my mum) and she said she didn’t think that was surprising....that, usually, we see each other for an hour a fortnight and rarely have contact in between and that, recently, we have been in touch most days and seen each other more. So, it’s not surprising that she’s more on my radar. And I described one dream to her and she interpreted it as being a metaphor of wondering whether I could trust a key female in my life at a time when I had just lost one with my mum’s passing...and she mentioned ideas around whether I could trust a key female in my life to be trustworthy, reliable, to not abandon me etc.

That evening after the session, I felt really upset and cried quite a bit about my Mum.

Since then, I have noticed that I feel very conflicted about therapy/my therapist.

On the one hand, there is part of me that feels really piney towards her....that wants to see her as much as I can because I want to sit with her and feel calm in her presence and feel like she cares about me. This makes me feel ugh! Like I’m needy and pathetic. It’s like a real longing for her.

On the other hand, another part of me feels very anxious about her and feels like cancelling my appointments and running from her/therapy altogether.

I feel really angry with her but I know she hasn’t done anything wrong. In fact, she has been incredibly caring and supportive and a big help over the past few weeks and, over the past few months, I’ve actually felt that I’ve made good progress in terms of the therapeutic relationship - I’ve felt much less anxious about “being in relationship with her” and we have felt closer in a way that has felt ok (ie not anxiety-making). So, this feeling angry with her and wanting to quit therapy is an old pattern that I’d thought I’d got over. I’d thought I’d got to a point of feeling more secure attachment with her. And now it feels like two years ago when I was having really extreme feelings towards her - I was either really loving her and pining for her and counting the days between sessions and wanting to be with her or I felt absolutely furious with her for no real reason and wanted to fire her and, at the same time, felt frightened of her somehow, I think. Well, not frightened of her, really....frightened of the relationship/intimacy etc, I think...

I feel so conflicted and it is getting really exhausting and confusing.

She hasn’t kept in touch this past week, which is bothering me a bit but not to the point that it’s the cause of all this internal conflict, I don’t think. I don’t know whether she hasn’t been checking in because she doesn’t think I need it or because she has been busy with other things or because me telling her about the dream has made her think she should step back a bit or...what. I don’t actually need her to text me. I’m fine. But I was appreciating it when she was, because it was nice to think she was thinking of me and to be on the receiving end of her kindness and care. I did text her on Thursday to update her about a GP appointment and she texted back. So, although I have noticed she hasn’t been checking in as much and part of me has felt disappointed not to have had that connection with her, I don’t feel that that’s the cause of me now wanting to run.

Because I feel so conflicted, I don’t know:

- whether to go tomorrow or cancel

- if I go, whether to mention all this

- what to really talk about in my sessions now...I can talk about my mum in terms of talking around her dying and what happened at the funeral etc but am not feeling willing/able to really process/talk about the loss and what that really means. Talking around it seems pointless. But this doesn’t seem like the time to be diving back into the relationship dynamics/old trauma stuff either.
I just feel a bit lost really. And am disappointed in myself that I seem to have taken a massive leap backwards in terms of being in the therapeutic relationship. It all just feels like a bit of a mess. And I’m sure my therapist has no idea I’m feeling like this and she’s made a lot of effort to go above and beyond to keep in touch and offer extra support over the past few weeks so she doesn’t deserve me now feeling pissy towards her.
Not sure what to do ?
 
Yeah...I’m sure this must be something about my mum somehow and not about my therapist, so I’m trying to hang in there and get myself there tomorrow...

I don’t think I can bring myself to tell her that I’ve been disappointed that she hasn’t got in touch this week (apart from replying to my GP related text) I think it sounds too clingy and needy and like I’m being critical of her and manipulative. And I know she hasn’t done anything wrong....it actually feels more like I’ve done something wrong by wanting her to connect.
 
@barefoot , i hope you managed to go to session and were able to talk to your therapist. Although this feels really uncomfortable for you she will know how to deal with it and in a supportive way, hence why i think its best to open up.
The first time i was ending therapy i was so upset and anxious and had all these feelings about missing my t etc etc - it was causing me so much hurt i knew i had to talk to her ( and everyone advised i should). I couldnt say the words so i showed her my notes and she read them whilst i sat there cringing ! I needn't have felt like that cos she handled it so well and knew exactly what to say ... i felt so much relief that we had the conversation and she was able to support me through the ending of therapy.
I hope you have been able to get some support hun.
 
@Missycat - thanks. I’ve managed not to cancel the appt...but there are still two hours to go!

I’m going to try to bring this conflict up - the wanting to see her and feel close to her and feel she cares vs the anger I feel towards her and the strong desire to run, to create distance...

And I should probably mention that I don’t really know what to use therapy for now. That I feel unsure about our direction now. Not that she’s going to tell me what we should talk about! But because, I guess it might be useful for her to know that I don’t know what I’m doing there at the moment.

Maybe I should take a break after today’s session. Take a break, create some distance, let things settle then decide what I want to do. I could do with saving the money anyway.
 
How did it go? I am interested in this topic as I can relate. I hope you brought up all your feelings toward her and I hope she didn't make the appointment about her, but about you and what it means. I feel sad readlng this because my therapist can't handle it when I bring up how I feel about the therapist and they get defensive and wont' talk about what it may mean. So I am left feeling conflicted and lost and in an unsettled state. So I'm curious how this went..
 
It was a fail. Because of me, not her.

I wittered on about nothing important for the whole session then, 2 minutes before the end of the session, I blurted our that I have kept wanting to cancel today.
And that I feel very conflicted about coming here.

She looked quite startled by that initially, then said it was understandable because coming to therapy at the moment potentially means talking about my mum dying and that’s maybe something I want to avoid.

And I said I think it’s partly that.
But it’s partly about her. Well, not really her...our relationship. Because she’s been being nice to me...

So, she asked how that felt.

And then I said that part of me likes it and another part doesn’t...or perhaps just doesn’t like that I like it?!

I said that the more I go there and see her and talk to her, the more I want to go there and see her and talk to her. So, that makes me think I should go there, see her and talk to her less.

It felt so excruciating and my voice was really wobbling because I was on the verge of crying.

We didn’t really get a chance to discuss it because I just dropped it on her at the end.

And we don’t have any more sessions in the diary. She said to think about what I want to do and to then email her to let her know.
She said she doesn’t want me to feel under any pressure to go there if it’s not what I want. But that her gut says maybe not to change things up too much at a time when there is a major stressor.

I don’t know what to do. I wish I could just go back in now and do the session again. I used to feel like that a lot after sessions but haven’t for a long time.

Feel like I’ve taken so many steps back.

And now trying very hard not to burst into tears on the train home.
 
I think it's so understandable you feeling freaked out and yet also loving the extra attention and care shown by her recently.

You had a similar problem for quite a while before until things settled and having such a big increase in the number of times you see her recently - is bound to need some adjusting to. Or upset the apple cart so to speak.

Hope I'm making sense here
Best to you X
 
Thanks @berlinda Yeah...I appreciated her kindness and found it helpful having a really consistent source of support who was checking in regularly. People can be a bit funny when someone dies, can’t they? Because they don’t know what to say so they say an odd thing or don’t say anything or are OTT trying to help or they have a mad flurry of getting in touch for a few days then you don’t hear from them again. So it was just nice that, especially amid some tricksy dynamics with my family, she was easy and supportive and was just...there...really...

But you’re right, I have been in this dilemma with this intense push/pull over the therapeutic relationship before. So, I guess I have sort of set myself up for this by seeing her more in recent weeks. I think that was a mistake ?

I think I’m going to have to go back to fortnightly 60 min sessions to create a bit more distance. And I think that will be quite painful in the short term for whatever it is in me that wants to be there with her and build a closer connection with her...but it will probably be better overall...
 
That doesn't really sound like a failure to me.

It sun's like it took you the better part of a session to work up the courage to bring up a difficult, complicated, confusing topic. But you did and then ran out of time. Not a failure.

I have a hard time navigating this stuff too. One of the things I remind myself of is that my version of reality actually isn't average, or typical, and I'm really not sure what "normal" is. (Although my T says he thinks "normal" is overrated.) But, when I'm feeling the kinds of feelings you are, I stop and ask myself if I think "most people" would feeling similar distress. If the answer is "no" then I consider the possibility that there might be a more accurate version of reality out there that I should look for.

In this case, maybe that means sitting with the discomfort of enjoying her company and what you're getting out of it. And then trying to figure out what about that is so uncomfortable.
 
So sorry Barefoot. That sounds very painful. Yes, it pretty obviously isn't about your t at all from what you say. You know best what is right for you especially if you have managed this before. My instinct is to say to try to go in as usual and try to accept the closeness but I know for myself that isn't always possible from a stability point of view. It also might not be what is right for you.

I think its a success as you brought it up. Better than me most often as I usually chicken out and shut down! ;)

No need to answer but it made me wonder if you didn't get all you wanted from your mum. I hope thats OK to say here at this time. I think its OK to discuss and have all feelings we have when there is a loss.
 
So sorry @barefoot that you are feeling upset. It doesnt sound like a fail to me, you managed to say what you wanted to say. You said you may go back to fortnightly sessions , this sounds like a plan. Get your appointment booked in . You may want to revisit your therapeutic relationship with your t then you know you can move forward.
 
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