Crazy neighbor moved all my porch furniture and then moved her things in

[scout86]

What a mess!

This is a condo? And you own yours? It's hard to believe that who owns what, and has the use what, isn't clearly spelled out in the contact. Is there a condo association of some sort? Because this seems to be the kind of issue they should resolve. I'm glad you have a lawyer, but I'm kind of disappointed that they suggested trying to compromise. She doesn't sound like a person where that would ever work.

Hoping, for your sake, something makes her stop, SOON.

 

[KwanYingirl]

The case is closed. She has no claim to my porch. It is exclusively mine. She is chomping on the bit over this. I will not give her one inch of space. Today’s daily rant made no mention of the law. She’s acting all like “I didn’t know about the law” she is desperate to have access to me but no way is she getting permission to use my porch. The board is meeting this weekend and we will inform her once again the findings of the lawyer. She’ll be told to mind her own business and to stop abusive behaviors that deny people their right to a pleasant life here. She’ll go looney, but karma is a bitch and she’s getting what she deserves.

 

[blackemerald1]

Who is paying your legal bills? Maybe ask your lawyer to inform her that if she continues and you are forced to take legal action then she will have to pay your costs as well as her own?

I agree with @scout - isn't there a body Corporate or Manager/Supervisor who can assist you at the premises because it's once thing for a lawyer to sit back and think compromise but he's not there on the ground seeing and hearing what she is doing. Surely there is someone who has some kind of authority actually at the premises? Idk...

 

[KwanYingirl]

The board can demand that she follows the rules, I’ve asked my t to write an accommodation letter for me as I am disabled due to PTSD. Basically to have zero contact with me. We’re meeting tomorrow to come up with a response to her demands for space on my porch. It’s as if she never even read the lawyers letters. Really, the only thing with any power because of the ADA Protection I have.

 

[scout86]

The board can demand that she follows the rules,

I hope they do exactly that. Because they should. That's why they exist. Dealing with residents who refuse to respect the rules is their job. (And you probably pay a fee for the service) Good luck! BTW, it doesn't seem like it matters that you're disabled. She has no right to the porch, no matter who lives there. Unless she does. Which she doesn't.

 

[EveHarrington]

I’m really not understanding why the lawyer even suggested a compromise.

That’s like saying “well this psycho wants to use the sofa in your living room......let’s compromise!”

Just because it’s outdoor space doesn’t make it any less yours.

I think a part of what’s playing in is out extreme need for space and need to feel safe in our own space..... I think it’s something non traumatized people just don’t understand.

 

[KwanYingirl]

Did I mention that my mother died Monday? That’s a whole new layer to keeping track of my self destructive coping style. I have been doing that and trying to meditate. The President of the boatd(I’m the secretary) is coming up from MA to reply to her most recent email requesting that we forgive her past behavior and then she lists a set of demands. Zero tolerance. Zero. My mom would want me to sue her. Well, that’s a frivolous lawsuit but boy I’d love to watch her squirm before a jury of her peers. She’s awful!!!

 

[KwanYingirl]

Well, this story just keeps getting crazier by the day. So the board is not going to even acknowledge her demands. We are going to ghost her. We are going to correct the fraudulent plan and file it with the Registry of Deeds, the President has had it with her and is quitting but first he is going to nominate me for the Presidents position because it was me that brought her down. Now isn’t that just going to make her day if I become the President???? I have learned so many coping skills and patience from this outrageous beast. I know she will move out so happy endings.

Thanks for the support y’all. Gotta love living in a democracy.

 

[blackemerald1]

Hmm why is the Board not going to take appropriate action? Ghosting is far from appropriate? This decision does not give her (or you) a clear indication of what area of the property is in dispute & how it is to be remedied. (By her being told it's not part of her ppty & therefore she is not entitled to put her belongings, move yours or go there). Ghosting? :wtf:

And well I've got serious reservations about you taking the President position, right now & presiding over this dispute in particular & then giving her any directive from that position. Do you see that this leaves the door open for her to complain etc about you, the Board & decisions relating to her & this disputed territory/property? I can.

The Board really should make a decision, have it appropriately recorded, tell her in writing THEN if you want to, be elected.

 

[KwanYingirl]

@blackemerald1 oh, yes she will get our letter. But that will be the final response to her incensint texts and emails. Everything else we do is dealt with at an Association Meeting. And discussed as a group. Ghosting will lessen the constant complaints, the character assassinations, and her orders on every annoying thing she rants.

 

[blackemerald1]

Ghosting will lessen the constant complaints, the character assassinations, and her orders on every annoying thing she rants.

Rarely does this bring about a situation where all parties are happy. Ghosting is for malcontents and maybe other circumstances where no legal or binding remedy exists.

If she is the 'type' to flood an organisation with complaints etc., and has already brought down one President isn't she winning and why would she stop?

What makes you think you can withstand her barrage any more than the previous President? I mean maybe you can but you did seem to be very relieved when your lawyer became the alternative target for her vexatious complaints and claims and began flooding him/her.

Once you hold the office of President it won't be only her that sends you letters etc., wanting something done, fixed or etc... it will be coming from all directions.

My point with you becoming President relates only to the matter concerning your neighbour. Again, in my limited experience it is usually unwise for a person in authority to rule or preside over decisions that directly impinge or enhance his/her personal circumstance.

This seems to be one of those occasions when it really would be best if you remained at arms length and allowed someone else, however reluctant they may be, to deal with her.

What makes you think she is going to move? I've met people who live, eat and breathe for the opportunity to be in her situation and do what she is doing. lol

 

[Sideways]

I've met people who live, eat and breathe for the opportunity to be in her situation and do what she is doing.

I used to work in a field where I had to assist many people who behaved in a similar fashion to this lady.

In my limited experience? There isn’t some point at which this person suddenly understands, or agrees with you, or decides to play nicely with others. There’s too often underlying pathology which, unless it’s addressed, prevents her from being able to engage rationally. Very often with compulsive and irrational complainants, the behaviour is irrational because they don’t have the cognitive function to behave any other way, certainly not for a sustained period.

I agree with @blackemerald1 that stepping into the President’s position simply gives you greater responsibility for the behaviour of a person that likely can’t be controlled through argument.

Certainly there may be legal avenues to try and put some pressure on her antisocial behaviours, but is that where you want to start directing all of your energy? Becoming the person responsible for dealing with this? That’s a massive amount of responsibility to take on solo, and you run the risk of everyone else simply washing their hands of her, at which point you carry the responsibility without support. Long term I can see that taking a terrible toll on a person’s mental health.

At the moment, you personally have the option of ignoring her correspondence. You won’t have the option as President if she is a resident and is submitting complaints.