anthony
Founder
Now, please do not repeat the mistakes made here: News - It really isn't and hasn't been the hottest anything, climate alarmism propaganda stoops to new lows, blaming Au fires on "Global warming" NOT TRUE
I get people want to discuss the Aussie fires in combination with global warming discussion.
We here in Australia are actually seeing a lot of propaganda spread about the fires. Our media shows it to us. It ranges from actual fire heat maps to the scope, size and damage done. There is a lot of misinformation Internationally.
Let me just say, there is damage done affecting hundreds, maybe thousands of rural Australians. What you say needs to take into account those people and their loss.
All nonsense will get deleted and action taken against those posting nonsense.
Is global warming responsible for the AU fires? Well... I don't think so. There is no evidence to support that. There are weather patterns going back hundreds of years. We have Nino and El Nino patterns. Yes, the earths temperatures have increased by around 1% I believe, no argument we humans have caused issues. I live in Melbourne, Victoria, and our temperatures are actually getting colder each year, with small bursts of hot days, a handful of chaotic heat days. We just had jumpers on yesterday, for the past two days, and Summer is half way through here.
We have a problem here with political correctness in our political camps, towards regular fuel reduction burning. The aboriginals have been doing this on their land for thousands of years, no issue. Even they have reached a point where they're now demanding their lands back because atleast they look after them by doing things like burning them regularly. Political correctness stopped much of it, thus causing years, decade or more, of vegetation / foliage building up as undergrowth. Combine this with a handful of bad days where its hot + windy, recipe for disaster. These fires continue to burn even though the temperatures cooled after the fact, even with rain, because the original conditions created were nightmarish.
Lightning has caused many fires, let alone some random ember / spark. There is no single cause for these fires. It is not one thing or the other. It is a combination, that the experts say is the issue.
There is a lot of misinformation about the fires here. Trolls are spreading it, celebs globally are reading some troll posted content and then perpetuating it as though truth.
Now - all those who jump on the climate change political bandwagon, making statements that Australia needs to change its climate footprint to reduce such fires in the future - you are so far off-base it isn't funny. Australia contributes approximately 1.3% of greenhouse gas emissions. Our countries population is smaller than the second largest state in America, Texas, yet both Australia and America as a whole, are nearly the same in land size.
China, America, Europe, India, and so on down the list to reach Australia, it is those countries that need to lower their footprints to make a global impact. Australia does not have the population size to implement radical change, as it would cause economic disaster. They're done it here in the past, and it caused a lot of economical issues, which is why some aspects got ripped out / cut back to be much more moderate.
Maybe if that occurs, maybe global rising temperature slows or declines. Lots of maybes'. Attempting to change a small population on a land mass similar to other entire continents, is just silly. This is some of the nonsense perpetuated globally by climate activists, celebs, media and so forth.
Fire experts here can not say whether hazard reduction burns would do much to curb such fires in the future, as the fire cause is usually done on one single hot day combined with wind. Everything after that is dealing with the issue after the cause. Commonsense says reduction burns should reduce intensity after the initial bad day or two of causation. There are lots of guesses, hypothesis, little fact. Fire is a beast.
Embers tend to perpetuate large scale fires. They travel long distances, land in something dry, and away goes another fire. You pull people from outskirt areas to fight a fire, embers are travelling over their head to those outlying areas, suddenly new fronts form and nobody is there to fight the new fire. Lots of problems.
Just remember -- don't post propaganda, and remember you are talking about things where people have lost lives and livelihoods, so emotions can be raw at present.
I get people want to discuss the Aussie fires in combination with global warming discussion.
We here in Australia are actually seeing a lot of propaganda spread about the fires. Our media shows it to us. It ranges from actual fire heat maps to the scope, size and damage done. There is a lot of misinformation Internationally.
Let me just say, there is damage done affecting hundreds, maybe thousands of rural Australians. What you say needs to take into account those people and their loss.
All nonsense will get deleted and action taken against those posting nonsense.
Is global warming responsible for the AU fires? Well... I don't think so. There is no evidence to support that. There are weather patterns going back hundreds of years. We have Nino and El Nino patterns. Yes, the earths temperatures have increased by around 1% I believe, no argument we humans have caused issues. I live in Melbourne, Victoria, and our temperatures are actually getting colder each year, with small bursts of hot days, a handful of chaotic heat days. We just had jumpers on yesterday, for the past two days, and Summer is half way through here.
We have a problem here with political correctness in our political camps, towards regular fuel reduction burning. The aboriginals have been doing this on their land for thousands of years, no issue. Even they have reached a point where they're now demanding their lands back because atleast they look after them by doing things like burning them regularly. Political correctness stopped much of it, thus causing years, decade or more, of vegetation / foliage building up as undergrowth. Combine this with a handful of bad days where its hot + windy, recipe for disaster. These fires continue to burn even though the temperatures cooled after the fact, even with rain, because the original conditions created were nightmarish.
Lightning has caused many fires, let alone some random ember / spark. There is no single cause for these fires. It is not one thing or the other. It is a combination, that the experts say is the issue.
There is a lot of misinformation about the fires here. Trolls are spreading it, celebs globally are reading some troll posted content and then perpetuating it as though truth.
Now - all those who jump on the climate change political bandwagon, making statements that Australia needs to change its climate footprint to reduce such fires in the future - you are so far off-base it isn't funny. Australia contributes approximately 1.3% of greenhouse gas emissions. Our countries population is smaller than the second largest state in America, Texas, yet both Australia and America as a whole, are nearly the same in land size.
China, America, Europe, India, and so on down the list to reach Australia, it is those countries that need to lower their footprints to make a global impact. Australia does not have the population size to implement radical change, as it would cause economic disaster. They're done it here in the past, and it caused a lot of economical issues, which is why some aspects got ripped out / cut back to be much more moderate.
Maybe if that occurs, maybe global rising temperature slows or declines. Lots of maybes'. Attempting to change a small population on a land mass similar to other entire continents, is just silly. This is some of the nonsense perpetuated globally by climate activists, celebs, media and so forth.
Fire experts here can not say whether hazard reduction burns would do much to curb such fires in the future, as the fire cause is usually done on one single hot day combined with wind. Everything after that is dealing with the issue after the cause. Commonsense says reduction burns should reduce intensity after the initial bad day or two of causation. There are lots of guesses, hypothesis, little fact. Fire is a beast.
Embers tend to perpetuate large scale fires. They travel long distances, land in something dry, and away goes another fire. You pull people from outskirt areas to fight a fire, embers are travelling over their head to those outlying areas, suddenly new fronts form and nobody is there to fight the new fire. Lots of problems.
Just remember -- don't post propaganda, and remember you are talking about things where people have lost lives and livelihoods, so emotions can be raw at present.