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Relapse - What Should I Do? What About My Kids?

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I am pretty sure I have DIS and feel like I am going crazy. I just want to give up. But I don't want to go the psychiatry hospital again.

It is hard to make the decision to go to the hospital, but if it helps you get better, then it is the best choice.

Each admission was what I needed each time. The first time, I was not eating, tears flowed day and night, and I was curling up in bed most of the time, not taking care of myself. I was 'paralyzed' but I knew I couldn't stay that way. Luckily, we lived with my parents. My son was 4 at the time, and was SO energetic. Her father & I (already divorced) had just taken our little girl, who was about 18 months old, to live in a State Hospital due to her severe brain damage. I cried every time I left her for the 9 years that she lived there.

She was a fulltime 'job', and I was exhausted in every way. The psyche nurses helped convince me that I had to care for myself first, to be able to take care of my son. I couldn't let us 'sink'. The best gift I could ever give to my children, was to be a healthy, happy mother who could cope with what life brought my way. I couldn't do that at the time, so I signed myself in. It was not easy.

Three meals a day, and having people there to talk with you when you are overwhelmed is what you need when you feel this bad. You CAN get better, but you have to commit to fighting to be who and what you can be! Needing help is not a bad thing, and it IS hard to reach out. Being without your children in this way is devastating!

I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. (((Nadia)))
 
Dear Angelkeeper, Thank you for your kind words. It sounds like a real difficult journey you went through. I really like your name though. You keep all the angels safe...! I feel like I am in the state you just described. Not eating and just curled in my bed for hours. It has been like this for a while now. And my life seems to be one endless crisis.

I am not sure what I am going to do yet. I havent eaten a healthy meal in a long time now. Tomorrow my trip is planned back to Braunschweig where my kids live. My doctor gave me a lot of medication to be able to handle it. But today at my appointment, he really frustrated me again. He avoids me talking about my symptoms because he doenst want me to be triggered... but how am I suppose to tell him what is happening and that I feel I need more help? He says I need to stabilize before I do a trauma therapy... but he doesnt give me any options for this except to drug me out. Then I come home and feel so hopeless again.

And making these plans are triggering me big time. On tuesday I would be returning to Berlin, so I would only see my kids for a couple days and then have to return. I am completely in debt and my application for unemployment has been refused because of my status as a student. I keep on seeing one social worker after another, and sending letters, hoping the application will go through soon. I am at home, and imagining terrible things that I would do to myself. I think I am able to control it. But the pain is really really big and I want to get help for this. The situation is much more complicated.

If I go to a the psychiatry, I wouldnt want my kids visiting me there. But being in the hospital did help stabilize me. But as soon as I got home, it all started again. There are other really nice psychosomoatic clinics here, where there is traumatherapy done, where I wouldnt have a problem with my kids visiting me. But it is a long waiting list to find a place in one of those clinics. And I do want to avoid going to the psychiatry for now. I was already there and just wanted to leave as soon as I got there.

The biggest problem is that I still dont have a regular T here in Berlin and just can't get my thoughts straight. It calms me a lot just to write about it so I will explain more carefully. Whoever wants to read through this... sorry it's so long! It will just help me sort it out maybe.

Just to avoid misunderstandings, the trauma happened more than 5 years ago. I had been living in the same city my kids live in (Braunschweig) for those 5 years and was seeing them regularly. And falling into a regular depression. When I was kicked out I was left with nothing and had to start over, all by myself. I didnt have any family and he had his whole family clan supporting him. I moved in with my best friend who was there for me when I had no home and needed help. Without her I dont know what I would have done. We were both studying Fine Art. I had found a second family at my art school, it was like my home. And I worked really hard even with the PTSD and depression and just finished my degree in July 2011. And was awarded an extra year of school, which I thought I would go through with.

But this last October our scolarship ran out and we had to move out. I didnt have a job. I had applied for a PhD scholarship and wanted to move in with my kids. But my ex declined this. I was waiting for an answer from the scholarship but it was declined 20 days late and I was on hot coals every day, because my roommate wanted to move out. Then we were informed that we had to move out of our apartment 10 days earlier, so that I had to store my things at my school and go homeless.

So 5 years after the trauma of being homeless, it happened again. I was having panic attacks every other day. My therapist started doing EMDR with me and it brought out a lot of the memories too. She said anybody who was in the situation I was in wouldn't be doing well. There was no way to decide where I was going to live, because I wanted to move in with the kids but also was waiting for the scholarship. Everything was up in the air.

We were doing councilling and the councillor told me that I would have little luck taking him to court, because he has had the kids for so long now... and plus me with my depression(ptsd)... with no job... wouldnt help...! I still am responsible for paying him alimony, although it is completely unfair that he has the kids in the first place.

I didn't have a job, and didn't know yet that I had PTSD. It was really really hard not having a home, because I didnt have a place where my kids could come and visit me. It was really hard for them too. So I decided to move to Berlin and find work, and commute to Braunschweig regularly, so that once I get grounded and stabilized my kids could eventually move to Berlin with me. It seemed like a viable option to all of us also my ex. He didnt say yes but I had felt we had grown up enough to be able to talk to each other like adults about this and about the best place for the kids to be. I found a job taking care of disabled children and also other jobs as an artist/ singer/ performer... Which is what I do.. and have already been succesful with. And I thought if I wanted it bad enough I would earn enough money so that my kids could come to Berlin at least 2 times a month and see me. I got a job taking care of disabled man, and then I got this 1 room apartment I am now in. I made so much debt doing so. My PTSD showed up several times, while working for the disabled man, that I got fired.

I started having anxiety continuously, heart pounding and racing. My kids came to visit me twice and after they were here I had real bad depressions. After a month I couldnt pay for my children to come and visit. Everything fell apart and I just totally gave up. I didnt have my T and my friends as support anymore. All the effort and resources I had found to keep my health and sanity for the last five years just left me. I even cut myself. And ended up in the crisis intervention center, and then in the closed psychiatry.

Now I have this diagnosis, and everything has changed and the also the perspective on all that has happened. Although I am planning to leave tomorrow for Braunschweig, it would just be for a few days. That is what is so terrible about it. I would see them for one day and one night and would I have to say goodbye again. In the city where they live, I do not have my own home, so I cannot be with them for so long as we will be staying with friends and there is not much room. Now that I am so unwell, I think it was a bad idea to move to Berlin. But in the other city, I just couldnt face it.

With PTSD I am understanding that I unconsciously left that place, not only because I felt triggered by it, but because I unconsciously wanted to fall, and needed to get this diagnosis and deal with the PTSD, and needed to be on my own to do so. In the other city I always had the pressure to perform for my kids when they would come and be happy for them. They also were very traumatized by the event, when I was forced to go, and their father just covered it up... and the kids also became numb to it. He has this way about him that is real controlling to people...he does it on the emotional level, which scares me to death. And I know the children didn't have any choice but to forget what happened. They love their father and I also want to respect that. And I am glad that I can be sure that he is not beating them, although they are getting a pretty strict religious upbringing that I never was happy about.

I know something has to change in this whole set up. And maybe this crisis is meant to tell me and others how unfair the situation I am in is. I do not see a way out at the moment. Writing about it seems to be the only way out. I am an artist, and often worked autobiographically. So sometimes I think all these terrible things have to happen to me so that I can write about it. But also it is quite an upsetting destiny to consider. And sometimes I just give up.

I am feeling more stable now after writing. Geez.

I am going to do my absolute best to go back tomorrow and see my kids even it is just for one night. I will take lots of pictures and just find ways to treasure that without thinking about the separation. I hope my anxiety doesnt start up again.
 
Happy to hear you are going to go see your kids! If you don't, you will heap even more guilt on your head than you already have.:)

Writing it out is a wonderful thing, because it helps you process the things that have happened, and will happen. I wish I were better at writing about my life and the feelings that go with the events.

Best of luck to you!
 
Thank you. It is hard for me to share so I am really grateful.
If you don't, you will heap even more guilt on your head than you already have.:)
You are probably right. The voices that I keep on hearing keep on cursing me and putting me down also for how guilty I am. Sometimes it really is intense and I just want to run away. In a way, they are right and I am guilty. It's so true. I haven't found forgiveness for this.

Writing it out is a wonderful thing, because it helps you process the things that have happened, and will happen. I wish I were better at writing about my life and the feelings that go with the events.
A few days ago, I realized that writing will help, and suddenly I felt a lot of relief. And I was like... geez, I can smile again. But suddenly I lost the access to it. And the negativity came over me. When I get triggered the disociations get so strong, and I get all zombie like and want to run away from the problems. It really helps to know there is someone to "listen." Sometimes I think that is all I am looking for.
 
Sharing this also triggers me, it's true though. I also read that on another thread. I was clearheaded for a while. And then it all came back again. What's wrong with me.

Calm down.........geez.
 
Hi Nadia,
I had the most wonderful day and I was reminded of something I memorized as a child. "Do not worry about tomorrow because tomorrow will take care of itself and who by worrying can add one day to his life." In case you don't recognize this it's from the Bible. For the last three months I have worried myself nearly to death over my sister. I was certain I would loose her but it was for nothing because my baby sister is now cancer free. Ultimately it is left in God's hands, hope and healing come from Him.

Do you keep a journal? Mine has kept me from falling off the edge of reality a time or two. I have been working for two years now on writing a book about my life. I have said many times that I want to reach others through my lessons and in so doing if I change one life then it has all been worth it. My wish for you would be to change lives because of what you have experienced. One day you might be the one holding someone elses hand as they begin their battle.

So here I am in NEW MEXICO, USA HOLDING YOUR HAND, Beverly
 
Eventually, you will learn what your triggers are, and find a way to get those things out of your life. Recognizing when a trigger is coming makes it easier to avoid the next time around.
Best of luck to you!
 
Wow Beverly you are holding my hand.:) Thank you again.

This is turning out to be a dissociation thread...maybe it should get moved? but anyways....

I spent my morning in my bed imagining all the bad things I could do. I saw myself cutting myself and wrists and throwing things. I saw myself calling the hospital. I felt the voices and felt these different me's inside.

I think... I know... I am not grounded and that I have dissociation disorder. I am getting closer to discovering this. That the many me's need a voice. But also that I may have the capability of regulating them. I am in my profession a performance artist and I work with language and text, but I am scared of having to perform my own life, of having to be better, having to get better for you or for my friends.

My children are the only things which have kept my mind still thinking logical thoughts. And kept me from following through with the ideation.

Me not being grounded means that I do not feel I am in my body. And since my children are part of me and were born from my body, it means that I have disconnected myself to them by disconnecting from my body. And to connect again to my body, causes me pain. And I know I will have to disconnect again and therefore lose my children.

I read this on the Wikipedia page for complex ptsd that adults who have CPTSD can have attachment disorders and this can be transferred on to their relationship with their children. It's so terrible! My children were often used to psychologically manipulate me. And they were the reason why I went back to him after he had beat me.

I have attachment disorders for anybody who can offer me help!

I am wondering if I unconsiously separated myself, to protect my children from my own anger and desperation. My mother would always yell at me and abused me, it was constant. She would put me in the closet for talking back at her. I still blame her for this. I brought this into my marriage. Then my exhusband would hit me and defend his actions through his religion. When my ex- husband beat me when I was 9 months pregnant with my son, something happened and all the anger that I had was swallowed and turned against myself. And now I am realizing that later when I was sexually abused, the fear became what I lived with constantly.

Dear Beverly, I also felt I should write my stories down. When I was in the clinic, I kept a journal of everything that happened. I drew pictures of dissociation states. I felt like a witness and a patient at the same time. But it is a very tricky game to play. I sometimes do not know if I am playing a role or if the role is playing me. When I got home I could not write in my journal anymore. I dont know why.

If it helps to hold somebody's hand then it is the hand that I can feel with my own body, at least symbolically. Maybe it is a symbolic hand. I dont know.
 
I'll be leaving soon in a half an hour. I was packing and shaking so bad. I think I have to take some of the medication my doctor gave me. Thanks everybody! :)
 
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