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Relationship Keeping Stress Away Vs Sheltering Her. What Is The Line?

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I'm so glad I've found these forums. I want to first thank everyone for all the support here and the stories, it's been really helpful. I would love some advice on something I wrestle with all time:

My fiance has complex-ptsd from child abuse. We've been together for 6 years, but it wasn't until she was able to move away from home 3 years ago- when she was 23- that she was able to be out of the abuse. Even since then we have been contacted a few times by her abusive family member, including theft of money and harassment. The last weekend my fiance was with this abusive family member they made serious threats against her life- and had her make what were basically hostage phone calls to me- telling her to tell me everything was fine and not to worry- while telling her she would never see me, or anyone but this abusive family member- ever again. It took me and three friends to get her to safety.

In the time since she has begun to feel safe and work through a lot of her childhood. She has remembered a lot of things she did not allow herself to beforehand- for example she recently remembered that she also witnessed this family member abusing her elderly grandmother who lived with them and had progressive dementia. She has frequent flashbacks- some emotional and some with images and is triggered by a variety of things. She sometimes leaves a conversation without warning- we'll be talking and then she's suddenly not talking to me- she's rehashing an old argument with her abuser. She does often does not where she is when this happens. Her inner self critic is incredibly harsh and convinces her frequently that i'll leave, that we'll be homeless, that she deserves both of those things and worse- and so on. When she is really in a spiral/triggered state she will harm herself- hitting herself in the head with her hand or pulling on her skin.

She is working through it all amazingly. She is keeping a journal of everything she remembers and what triggers things. She has begun seeing a therapist. She has held a full time job for over a year. She is learning her triggers and when she comes back- she doesn't always remember what she said or where she was- but she always wants to talk it through. We've both been doing a lot of research on PTSD. I have depression myself, and some PSTD of my own- although not to nearly the same extent. I'm also currently a social worker and getting my masters in counseling at the moment- so it's been helpful that we can identify things with research. It's been helpful for her to know she isn't "crazy" that all this has a cause. And most of the time, the vast majority of the time, we're happy- she is recovering and our relationship is solid and we have fun and make dinner and go see friends and volunteer together and watch netflix and take walks and plan vacations and build ikea furniture. Our every day is incredibly normal in the best way.

But my question and problem is this- I always want to protect her from things, from anything that could cause stress. I want to protect her from bills and troubles at work and upsetting conversations with my own family and whatever else. I just want to solve the problems so it's one less thing she needs to be scared about. But then I feel like i'm saying she can't handle it, like i'm sheltering her and keeping things from here, which is not healthy or respectful to her. I know it's not. But it's- like recently a credit card payment did not process right from my bank. I had to sort it out and pay a late fee. She has a lot of money related fears, a lot of them from the time her former abuser drained an account she had stole from her. If I had told her she would have spiraled into that the bank account probably didn't work because it was frozen because her old abuser took out a credit card in her name and ran it up and then they connected to the debt to us and pulled it and now it's frozen and we're going to have live on no money because we can't get our paychecks so we'll probably lose the apartment and have to live on the street. I can hear it so clearly, this is how she has reacted to similar things, crying in panic. So if I can save her that and just handle it, if I can protect her from that stress, I do. But then I feel terrible because i don't want to keep things from her or treat her like a child. If I can make something go away without her needing to have that panic and cry- that's good, right? But I struggle and I debate because I feel like I'm not respecting her and I feel like this implies I think she can't handle things. I'm trying to save her stress and triggers- but am I not doing her any favors?

It's a struggle I have. She's been hurt so much- and I think because in our case I did think I was going to lose her at the hands of her abuser- I'm probably a little overprotective. But she's a grown, capable, brilliant woman. She's actually probably better at money and related life skills than I am. So. And I don't want it to sound like our relationship is unbalanced or I swooped and saved her and now I see her as fragile or something- I feel in love the best friend I've ever had when we were in college. We're still best friends.

I guess I'm just looking for some advice and guidance. I just never know what the best approach is when it comes to these things.
 
Welcome to the forum.

Anthony has published numerous fantastic articles in the Articles section. I would primarily.suggest looking through those.

I cannot advise wether you are doing the right thing or not but as a sufferer I am.really greatful for supporters like you.

:hug:s for both of you if you accept them.

Laurie
 
Hi Singlegateunkept,

To be honest you sound like a little gem. I was once engaged to a man who was totally immature and lied about money all the time. I was working full time, studying for a post grad going through pretty heavy therapy, suffering from ptsd and basically running the house and finances, all while he was hiding letters about our joint account.

She probably is better at doing these practical money matters precisely because she is terrified or things going wrong and never having had anyone she could rely on to help take the responsibility.

So if I can save her that and just handle it, if I can protect her from that stress, I do. But then I feel terrible because i don't want to keep things from her or treat her like a child. If I can make something go away without her needing to have that panic and cry- that's good, right?


She has a lot of money related fears, a lot of them from the time her former abuser drained an account she had stole from her.

I always want to protect her from things, from anything that could cause stress. I want to protect her from bills and troubles at work and upsetting conversations with my own family and whatever else. I just want to solve the problems so it's one less thing she needs to be scared about. But then I feel like i'm saying she can't handle it, like i'm sheltering her and keeping things from here, which is not healthy or respectful to her. I know it's not

Why do think it's not respectful to help and care for your collective situation? Yes money matters are hers also but it's a team effort and your being half of the team. I would have given my right arm if my now ex-fiancé could have had your attitude.

It's not like your taking big joint decisions without her knowledge, you are simply rectifying bumps in the road to stabilise the situation again.

If you came to me after you'd done this and said you know a couple of months ago we had a little hiccup and I took care of it, I would be so relived and proud that I had someone I could rely on to look after us.

Your not being disrespectful. I'd jus tell her that whilst she's stressed you consider it your job to take care of things and you are so she doesn't have to worry. And then I'd expect to get the sore ribs from the massive hug she'd most likely give you.
 
The thing I'd be more worried about is making absolutely damn sure that she doesn't have to have contact with this abuser/family.
I've got to say that money issue compared to this are nothing and I'm a bit confused as to why your post isn't about that really?

Why is she going there? Why are you and her not coming up with a plan to remove yourselves? Get them arrested?

Change you phone number. Move. Get injunctions. She must be living in constant fear.
If for some reason she isn't strong enough to make the moves to protect herself from her family yet, then for pity's sake don't let her go on her own and don't let her out of your sight.
 
I didn't make that very clear, sorry about that. No. We live a state away and have moved twice since she left the family situation. We have also changed her phone number twice and mine once. We have never given any of this contact information to her family. She has had no contact with the abuser at all- at least not contact initiated by us- since that last night. This person pulled out any information they ever had- drained bank accounts from things left behind when she left all of the sudden and was unable to pull everything- we changed everything as fast as we were able, but there have been incidents since of ways we didn't catch. Little accounts that were still connected, things from when she was 18 or so. Like I said we've moved twice, we're an entire state and over 6 hours away, and we plan to move even farther with in the next year or so. We don't give any information out, and she's cut contact with a lot of people, we have- just because we don't want to take the chance they could pass information off without meaning to. No facebook or anything either. We did try several times to get restraining orders, to retrieve stolen property, and to report the abuse, but have unfortunately had very little success with the police. She has recently not wanted to go after any other action because she is afraid she would have to see her abuser in court and listen to their manipulations and she would rather just stay away and try to rebuild.

So yeah, she has no contact at all- anything that has happened since she left has been these sort of back alley ways- again, that seem to come from rifling through any papers still left at that house or things she signed before she left. All accounts we could think of to close have now been closed, and we've moved twice and both changed phone numbers. So. That's less of an issue than it read like. Sorry for that. But I will feel much better when we're even father away in a couple of years here, and I know she will too.[DOUBLEPOST=1402496533,1402496457][/DOUBLEPOST]
Welcome to the forum.

:hug:s for both of you if you accept them.

Laurie


Thank you so much for the hugs and the direction toward the articles. I look forward to reading them. Thank you.
 
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Hi Singlegateunkept,
She probably is better at doing these practical money matters precisely because she is terrified or things going wrong and never having had anyone she could rely on to help take the responsibility.

Thank you. And yes, I think you're absolutely right about that, about her being good at things because she checks and double checks to make sure things aren't going wrong because she is afraid something will.

That makes sense, I think I just never want it to seem like I am keeping things from her or that I don't want her input. I also want to take away as much stress as I'm able. I like what you said, though- about mentioning to her down the road on a day when she's not stressed- so by the way this happened and I did this and took care of it. That way she does know and is aware of what happened, but not until after it's not a potential worry. I might be worrying about it all to much on my end too- until I started browsing these forums I haven't really talked to anyone in depth about me end of it and the things I worry I'm doing to help or not help. So thank you for listening.

Thank you, again. I'm sorry your former fiance treated you that way. That's terrible and I'm sure did nothing but contribute to your stress.

Thanks again!
 
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I think that's 100% correct. Not disrespectful, if it were her negligence or responsibility in managing her affairs that would be different, but the company making an error is another. You can mention it in passing if you like. She probably is hypervigilant about it.

As long as you are not walking on eggshells, I think reducing those kinds of stressors is tremendously helpful.
 
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