Should You Or Should You Not Donate.......

[notsurewheretoturn]

Sorry that really angers me.

Sorry but that really angers me and I am speaking from the viewpoint of someone who WAS in that position.

I was born with cancer of the kidney, I was given three months to live, and this was when I was only a couple of weeks old. I've been told I may need a transplant someday and my answer is a very firm no! My life is no more important that anyone else's, and it may interest you to know that only children can donate to children, so somewhere along the line, the 'right' child still has to die.

 

[Neverthesame]

I've always wanted to be buried at sea

That is probably one of the most British things I have read in a long time.

@J_trustno1 Really, someone called you selfish about that? All I can say to that is. I hope that if ever need a donor organ in my lifetime, I hope it isn't one of theirs. Just in case of what @Fadeaway mentioned earlier, about personality traits being passed through donor organs turns out to be true. I would hate to think that the extra time I was gifted to live. I would spend as a self righteous prick, who actually thinks he has some right to pass judgement on how someone else chooses to do with, or what ritual they have performed on their own dead body.

Though that gives me an evil idea. he, he, he.

I wonder if there is a way to have your body stuffed like a taxidermy animal? Then placed on the front lawn of someone who you don't like, with a disapproving look on your face, arms outstretched and your middle fingers sticking up. HA!

 

[Neverthesame]

Oops. I just looked two comments up... lol.

I didn't intend to call anyone here a self righteous prick. I really must make it a point to read more carefully before making such inflammatory remarks.

On the serious note, we are really all entitled to our beliefs and opinions on this. Try not to forget that when this actually becomes a choice we need to make. We are either not going to care because we are gone. Or if we are still around somewhere in an afterlife. We will likely have no way to communicate this with the living.

Long winded as I am in life, devoid of breath I'll be in death.

I know I personally appreciate, as well as place enormous value in the differences in beliefs and opinions of different people. Besides the fact that it would be a bloody boring world if we all thought the same. I know that if people in my life never said anything that I disagree with. I would probably have grown up to be a loud indignant, closed minded, intolerant jerk.

I am very thankful now, that there were people in my life that taught me to listen. Have empathy for others, to ask myself why this bothers me.

Now this does not mean that I hop the fence every time someone else says anything. Not at all. I have read some comments on this forum which I have found downright offensive. Probably always will. What I am saying is, that's ok.

Wow. This got long winded fast, didn't it?

 

[LuckyDuck]

Well, this thread went tits up very fast. Got gripes? State why before baiting someone into an emotionally fueled argument, notsure.

 

[Queen Boudica]

The 'right' (totally inappropriate word as there is no such thing as the right child dying) child will die anyway. But what could happen is another one is saved. No contest here. Your choice to not have a transplant but for others they want their children to live and would appeal for donors. not something to get angry about because people want their children to live. And no I do not believe those people appealing are willing someone else to die. That will happen anyway, The person will die. What could happen is that death could mean someone else lives. Why people lhave to appeal is because not enough people are on the list to donate. They are hoping someone will get the message and donate if they die and that their child lives. some people want to do that and some are not aware and maybe will be swayed. That is their choice and it is the choice of the person needing the organ to appeal for life.

It is not OK to pass judgement on those who choose not to donate but neither is it ok to pass judgement on those who appeal for their lives of children and their own lives. Self-righteous prick can be used both ways in this argument

 

[falling_wave]

I can terrify myself if I don't catch it early with the thought of what happens after I die to my body and my soul. I've had suicidal ideation when severely depressed and the I'm just already in such a hell that I don't care but normally I still need to work on peace.

I'm an organ donor but I have not agreed to donate to research. I want to let a part of myself bring life to other people. In a sense that gives me peace because my time is over but I am not completely gone from life. I've seen people I love dead and they immediately don't look like themselves. I've also struggled with visiting burial sites so I'll probably be cremated after donating. It doesn't sound good to be burned but I'd rather be scattered in nature so that I can be free in a sense and I know I'll be dead so I won't feel it. It's all what gives you most peace when you think about it.

 

[Neverthesame]

I would like to be perfectly clear on this. My issue was not with what J_trustno1's coworker had said to her. But that they felt it appropriate to call her an offensive thing, then speak down to her. Over something that is her choice and really not any of their business.

If I offended anyone. I apologize. That was never my intent. Nor did I intend to force my beliefs upon anyone.

 

[J_trustno1]

Thanks guys. I wasn't intending to start a debate or wanting to hurt anyone's point of view. What I disliked was the way that lady called me selfish for not donating my own body. It's the only universal thing I own in this world, it my only machine /mechanism that makes me visible to other human beings yet what I choose to do is not my choice according that lady or some people here is very sad. I initially thought it's a free world and I'm living in a western country where everyone has a freedom of choice but not very true.

All I want to do while I'm alive is:

1. Work on being a better version of myself and actually learn to love and respect myself. Because there is absolutely NO point in trying to help others when I'm miserable inside.

2. Give as much as I can to help others who need my help.

3. Learn and improve each and everyday.

I don't want my body suffering after I'm dead and I choose it to go fully once I'm gone because it's mine and I respect it.

 

[notsurewheretoturn]

I
[QUOTE="LuckyDuck, post: 843048, member: 26930"State why before baiting someone into an emotionally fueled argument, notsure.[/QUOTE]
Didn't bate anyone. Regardless of my reasons, my opinion is just as valid as anyone else's. My body, my choice.

 

[Friday]

Ever since I gave up on my Ötzi-Glacier-quest... And then, ditto, figured I wouldn't be spread out over an unusable and improbable area by a mine or missile (or eaten by a school of fish), because I was now rockin the suburban housewife thing instead of the fighter thing... I've been partial to cremation. Cough. With a twist. I don't want my ashes spread. I want them squashed. Squashed but good. :D

Human ashes are made of carbon (overs simplification)
Diamonds are made of carbon (ditto)
Synthetic diamonds can (and are) made of human ash.
Voila

Found this out shortly after my son was born. Even had an aside made in my will/insurance payout to cover the costs. There was only 1 company back then... There are now several. LifeGem, Algordanza, etc.

Look ma! I can be pretty, too!!!

 

[notsurewheretoturn]

That is probably one of the most British things I have read in a long time

Just to clarify, and before someone accuses me of baiting again, although I live in the UK I am actually of French decent. To be thrown in the English Channel would achieve two other aims. First I would be closer to home (France) and second, my ex has promised to dance on my grave......

 

[Neverthesame]

although I live in the UK I am actually of French decent.

Oops. :bag: It would appear the little flag has lead me astray. :confused:

Your reasons for wanting a burial at sea, still make perfect sense.