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Just Found Out The Details Of My Wife's Rape

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I've been married for close to 15 years. Prior to getting married we made disclosures about each others past that we thought were pertinent. One my wife made was that she was date raped. The subject was obviously very stressful to her and I did not inquire further. The bottom line was it did not affect the way I felt about her and I did not want to stress her out with questions about the event. Fast forward to today. Our relationship is as strong as it has ever been. We have 2 kids (3 & 8). I basically hit the wife power ball. She's beautiful, smart, a great mother and a great wife. It's taken 15 years to realize and appreciate how good I have it.

Lately though I've had a rough month. It started with a mass in her breast that needed to be biopsied. While waiting on the results which were benign a friend from high school's husband died suddenly of a heart attack. It's been rare but in the last few years people around me have started to die. It's just part of life when you hit your 40's but it does or did have an effect on me as far as how I wanted to spend my time. With 2 kids it's a rush to get home, do homework, ball games, supper, take baths and get the kids to sleep. In any relationship the odds are slim that both parties have equal sex drives. In our case mine is higher which I would think is fairly common. I've never really pushed the issue because of the past rape. My wife's idea of unwinding is curling in bed and watching an hour or 2 of tv much of which I am not remotely interested in. In light of the past month's events with her health scare and the loss of a friends spouse I've thought a lot about how I want to spend my time. If I make it to 80 I don't think I'll look back on my life and think "Damn, we really should have watched more tv.".

On one particular night as I was laying there listening to the crap on the tv that won the competition for her time it was particularly irritating so I told her I needed to sleep and went in another room to sleep. The next night when I wasn't irritated I laid out how I felt about it. She said why didn't you just say so. I told her that when it comes to issues of me wanting sex when she does not I am not going to be like the son of a bitch that raped her. She said I was not anything like him and the door was opened for a discussion so I asked what happened. She calmly in a very manner of fact way went through the most horrific story of what happened to her. It left me in a state of shock and rage while she rolled over and went to sleep. Needless to say I didn't sleep but a few hours that night and each night since has been more of the same.

I decided to make use of my now extended waking hours and try to make sense of it. Outside of the horrific details of what happened there were other factors that amplified it. For starters he announced to his friends this would be the night which he saw to personally. She had no chance. As it turned out he was 16 and she was 13 which is not what I expected. Having been in junior high I know good and well that as soon as it is know that a girl has had sex she is labeled a slut. The guy gets the title of stud. It's bullshit but that's the way it is or at least it was. One of the hardest things for me to deal with is the fact that the relationship continued until she could get out of it. I know she was in survival mode and do not hold it against her in the slightest despite the fact that I have trouble understanding it. It's not something I am going to question. She simply did what she had to do. Ever since these details emerged I have been seething in rage. Although the incidence occurred over 20 years ago and I've known it happened not knowing the details insulated me from the pain I feel now. For me this is like it happened recently whereas for her it is over 20 years old and she has moved on. She's noticed something is wrong with me but not known exactly what the problem is since as she says it's not like I didn't know it happened.

I asked her what his name was and she refused. All she told me was the number of children he had and what year his now wife was forced to drop out of school due to pregnancy. I took that information, got her old annuals, figured out who was missing and cross checked it through social media. It took a while but I found out who the son of a bitch was. A few mornings ago I asked her again what his name was. She again refused. I then asked her if she would like me to tell her what his name is. When I did it scared the hell out of her because she was concerned with what I would do. She tells me I need counseling. I told her I would be fine with paying any counselor that could provide justice. Outside of that I don't feel like paying someone to tell me to just deal with it while he walks around as if nothing happened. For someone who is date raped though there is no justice. My wife would be the one put on trial and I would never do that to her. Now she is concerned I will do something stupid. Although I have had no sleep to speak of for a week I am not stupid nor do I feel like letting this stand. I just don't know how to get any form of justice within a legal framework.

I really just don't know what to do. I spend my time reading about how to understand what she went through and what to expect. The truth be told she has forgiven him and has had over 20 years of time to move on. I on the other hand feel like this happened last week and can't let it go. I know the stats are 1 out of 5 women get raped and most never report it. I don't understand why as a society we let these animals walk around without paying for what they did. The most therapeutic thing for me would be to beat the hell out of him. It amazes me how she handles everything so much better than I do. I sit in on her biopsy, turn white and nearly puke. She goes through the horror of being raped by someone she cared about and is in a good place. I am on the sidelines watching and it is killing me. I don't see anything of use that will allow me to sleep that could come from this but am open to suggestions.

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It sounds like you do need some counseling. You *do* have to just deal with it. That's what we all have to do. She has to deal with it. You have to deal with it. It sucks. It is tooth grindingly hard. It is horrible. It is wrong. But it is what there is to do.

The alternative is wrecking your life over something that happened 20 years ago to someone you love. That won't help anyone.

I'm really sorry she was raped. I'm sorry you are experiencing secondary trauma. I think you deserve support and help. I think counseling could offer that.

Good luck.
 
Agreed. You do need the counseling. I understand your rage. I understand your need to do something brutal to him but it doesn't change that it's NOT YOUR PLACE.

I went through something similar with someone I disclosed to and his reaction impacted my ability to trust him greatly. Just trying to look for him TO ME would be a breach of confidence.

I get the anger. I get that you love her. She's found some sort of peace. Let her keep it. Please.
 
While your wife is undoubtedly worth going to prison for... Is this bloke? Really?

Serious question. I have a short list of people that I regularly decide their pissant lives aren't worth a single day of my time in prison. They aren't worth my not being there for my kid.

So it's the first question to ask yourself... Are you willing to leave your wife and your children to fend for themselves, unprotected, for the satisfaction of curbing this asshole?

Second question... Your wife has already won. She has you. She has your children. Her life, with the 4 of you together is the victory. Are you willing to take that victory away from her? Worse; Leave her a single mother, getting strip searched to take her kids to visit daddy in jail?

I'm a violent motherf*cker with a short fuse. The only reason a helluva lot of people are breathing on their own is 5'4, with wicked blue eyes, just noticing girls, and a teenage attitude problem that regularly makes me want to bang my head against the drywall.

It's easy to die for someone. It's hard to live for them. You want to protect your wife. Damn straight. Do that. Each and every day that you are in her life, and in your kids lives, live for them. Don't leave them unprotected now because of something you couldn't stop from happening 20 years ago. Be her victory. Not the reason she cries herself to sleep at night alone in bed.

Feel free to go ahead and add the bloke to your short list, though.
 
A few mornings ago I asked her again what his name was. She again refused. I then asked her if she would like me to tell her what his name is. When I did it scared the hell out of her because she was concerned with what I would do. She tells me I need counseling.

She trusts you enough to provide you with details of an event that is painful to her. She made it clear she didn't want for you to be provided with his information, but she told you what happened to HER. You made the situation about you, and about finding out who he was, to what purpose exactly? I would be scared too. I would also be mad as hell at having my trust betrayed in that way and at having a very clearly set boundary stomped all over because of my partner's selfishness.

Don't ask questions you don't want the answer to. I'm sorry, but really- you knew she was date raped. When you decided to ask for additional details did you expect a bedtime story?

I typically disclose fairly early. And I do so bluntly and in enough detail for it to function as a litmus test. Does this stay about me or does it become about their comfort? Do they express rage, do they judge me, or on the flip side do they start to shelter me? I need to know people in my life can handle it when I need to talk, without me worrying so much about their reactions to it that I feel silenced. In my book you just failed that test in a major way- digging through a yearbook playing a guess who it was game when she didn't want to tell you, really? You realize part of the reason a lot of people don't disclose is that we have to deal with an endless string of people who go off wanting to kill someone when we're in a vulnerable emotional state, and then we have to calm them down instead of dealing with what we're feeling?

I agree that you definitely need some counseling from what is stated here. Because you do have to deal with it. And you being angry doesn't mean that you get to insult her when she suggests a reasonable course of action- you getting help since apparently you can't deal with her past; or to treat her trust in you with that much bravado in the first place. You might just find out that in the future you don't have it.
 
Agree with everyone else before me. In addition to seeking counseling from a trauma therapist, I would recommend making an appointment with your doctor... sleep is so important to being able to make rational decisions that you don't go on to regret. I don't normally suggest medicating, but I think you may need some temporary sleep aid relief.

The most therapeutic thing for me would be to beat the hell out of him. I

Exactly. This is the most therapeutic thing for YOU. Not her. Please be her safe place instead of adding on to her pile of sh*t that she is already facing down (and very well).
 
I can understand your anger and your desire for justice...I'm sure I would have an element of that if I were in your situation, but I'm on the other side personally...and I agree with the previous posters, I really don't think it's helpful for either you or your wife for you to persist with this. Your anger may actually upset her further and make it harder for her to move forward and it risks destroying you and your relationship, so maybe counselling would be beneficial for you? Have you ever had counselling with your wife, as I had a couple of sessions with my partner when things got problematic around this area and it was really helpful for both of us.

When my partner and I first got together I disclosed a tiny bit and he responded by becoming furious and almost not wanting to be near me because he just didn't get why I would have gone back after what happened. I know he was overwhelmed and angry on my behalf too, but all I got was a sense that my partner thought less of me and didn't want to be with me. Now I'm not near being "okay" with what happened, but I'm now doing trauma therapy and I've let my partner in a lot recently. What is important to me right now is that he is supportive to me, I appreciate that it is difficult for him to hear some details - but he asks for them and I have to respect that it's his choice to ask and his responsibility to deal with it appropriately. Because to be honest, I can't deal with being okay FOR HIM, I'm finding it hard enough to be okay for me. I did have to plead with him not to go finding the man/men...and in those moments I was terrified. The only way I can personally move forward is to tell myself I'll never see these people again, and if my partner found them I wouldn't see it as justice, it would just serve as a reminder and take me backwards. I made him promise not to do anything, and to at least try to quit the bravado of "i'm gonna kill him!! I can find them, i know i can"...I appreciate it's hard but as long as he's trying that's all I can ask for.

Maybe you could say to your wife that you are trying to process it and deal with the emotions that are coming up for you, and that if she doesn't want you to go any further with finding the person and doing something about it, then you respect that?

Ultimately you ending up in a state is not going to help her not be in one, there's only so much that someone can take especially when trying to recover from trauma and feeling a responsibility for monitoring someone else's response to the trauma is a bit much and to be honest a bit unfair. Not that I am trying to undermine the difficulties of being in a relationship with a trauma survivor/someone with PTSD at all.
 
Just like @FridayJones said, your wife has her victory in you and your children, your life together. I never thought I would have any of this and I do, so he didn't win, I DID! Reclaiming your life is powerful and brings great strength and determination. I understand your anger but don't diminish everything she has accomplished. I think counseling would definitely benefit you and in turn, your wife as well. Just keep loving her unconditionally and being supportive, as you have in the past. She needs this from you more than settling a 20 year old score that could potentially hurt your family. It is just not worth it.
 
What is important to me right now is that he is supportive to me, I appreciate that it is difficult for him to hear some details - but he asks for them and I have to respect that it's his choice to ask and his responsibility to deal with it appropriately.

I think this is what this whole thing comes down to for me. Personal responsibility for your reaction to the information you asked to be provided with. And if you can't have responsibility to act accordingly, then it is your responsibility to seek out the help to do so from a qualified professional. It's important to keep in mind who the victim is. And it's not you. I've been around too many people in my life who desired the opportunity to make my trauma about them in various ways. That is not what your wife or your children need from you right now.
 
I wasn't going to go here but I've had the chance to chill and think about this and I can't stay silent. You messed up big time. ALL OVER THE PLACE.
This ain't about you, honey. Go talk to someone and figure out how to stop making this about you.

Lately though I've had a rough month. It started with a mass in her breast that needed to be biopsied. While waiting on the results which were benign a friend from high school's husband died suddenly of a heart attack.

......Shouldn't the biopsy be about her? I get it, it was stressful but she needed you and it SOUNDS like you were wrapped up in your worries about it too much to be much support.

A friend's husband died. Were you and the husband close? Why not say a friend died? Were you and the wife close? Were you her only support? WTH? Again, offering support is hard but it's not about you.

Ever since these details emerged I have been seething in rage.
Again... this is about HER not YOU.

I asked her what his name was and she refused.
And that's when you should have STOPPED. She TRUSTED you. And then you went and did THIS:

I took that information, got her old annuals, figured out who was missing and cross checked it through social media. It took a while but I found out who the son of a bitch was.

A few mornings ago I asked her again what his name was. She again refused. I then asked her if she would like me to tell her what his name is. When I did it scared the hell out of her because she was concerned with what I would do.

WHY did you do that? WHY? What did you THINK her reaction would be? Just READING that got my heart rate up. I can remember telling and the reaction of the person and how it changed our relationship on a fundamental level becuase he did something similar. Reacted in a similar manner. We were NEVER the same again because I told him and you know what? You're headed the same direction. YOU said it: you hit the Powerball with your wife. Now you want to go and mess with that because you've been making everything about you AND you can't let go of something that DIDN'T EVEN HAPPEN TO YOU.

She tells me I need counseling.
Remember this powerball that you won? Do you RESPECT YOUR WIFE? Seriously, she's got a point.

I told her I would be fine with paying any counselor that could provide justice. Outside of that I don't feel like paying someone to tell me to just deal with it while he walks around as if nothing happened.

Guess what buddy, life isn't fair.
It isn't.
Ever heard of Tolkin? Great writer.
He wrote this in The Lord of the Rings
"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement"


YOU DON'T HAVE A SAY HERE. YOU DON'T GET TO LOOK FOR JUSTICE. YOU DON'T. Just. for the love of all things GOOD in the world, in your life, in her life, in the lives of the two children you are raising, STOP.
For someone who is date raped though there is no justice. My wife would be the one put on trial and I would never do that to her.
No, you've done something FAR worse. You've put her in a place of worrying about what you will do. What you will say. What has happened to the relationship where she could look to you for love and acceptance and forgivness and happiness. You broke that. You can still fix it but you broke it.

Now she is concerned I will do something stupid.
no kidding. I am worried too. Your reaction to all of this speaks of an immense immaturity. Yes, it isn't nice to say but what you did wasn't nice.

Although I have had no sleep to speak of for a week I am not stupid nor do I feel like letting this stand. I just don't know how to get any form of justice
Thanks

Really? REAL MEN go figure out what the hell is wrong with them and work on fixing it. It's nothing to do with stupidity it's all ego.
You've got an 8 yr old "Let it GO!"
Go TALK TO SOMEONE and work through this and STOP PUNISHING YOUR WIFE because that's what you're doing at this point.
 
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