Good sites to "unbrainwash" or "deprogram"one self?

[lostforgottensoul]

Were the rituals based on a religion Lost? If so, what one? Do you mind my asking?

Sorry for missing this question, i have seemed to missed a lot.

My step dad wrote is.own "bible" Satanic-like. It was a cult, i see that much. Just cant seem to stop this auto tape w/ the cult's beliefs...the automatic stuff that i just "have" to do or the world is gonna come off its axis...

***sigh****

 

[Stickler]

God talks to me too...when She feels like it. I am almost certain She never said any of that awful stuff about you. She tends to take a dim view of people getting attached to their egos, like your mom and stepdad did.

Regarding meditation taking a quiet mind? No, that's how you get it quiet, and you do that by dragging it back to the focus of concentration over and over and over and over and OVER.:banghead: :arghh;
Not easy but worth it.

One of the almost-universal symptoms of DID and DDNOS, according to a sourcebook I have on it? Is an extremely noisy, chaotic brain. I have that noisy head. That's why I got into meditating in high school.

Glad i am into Zen, as I found out I was just a bag for the others in my head to fill...this recently.:O_o: I exist less...

 

[lostforgottensoul]

have you looked into the forums at the Rick Ross Institute? Rick Ross is a deprogrammer who is a certifiable badass, and his institute is dedicated to exposing cults, educating the public, assisting survivors, extricating minors, etc. I used to hang around that forum as much as I hang around here (read: all the time) just as a passive observer.

I just got the approval for the forum today. Per my therapist today, it should be the main one (for now) that i hang/post in; though the format seems 'old' and it hurts my eyes. Feeling a ton of fear too. My therapist says that means we're getting to the 'core'. He said this one should be for anxiety & just PTSD issues and that the PTSD is just a small part of the larger issue.

Anyway, hopefully it helps. Thanks for the site Simply!

 

[Kintsugi]

Hm. That seems like an odd thing for your T to say if s/he is not overly familiar with the two forums. The approach between this one and that one are extremely different. I have noticed that the Cult Education forums have a very angry emotional tone regarding the past, whereas the tone here is a bit more about personal struggle day-to-day and the pain that stems from exploring our pasts. I don't know. See what you think. I think the angry overlay can be empowering, but it may not always get to the deeper issues and feelings.

I would also caution you over going too deep into researching cults. People will leave a reminder about this every so often on there... Reading cult propoganda, no matter how innoculated by knowledge one is, WILL begin to get to you. Reading coercive persuasion in any form too much has a wonky effect. It just does. Believe me; I've gone too deep multiple times with terrible effects on my PTSD symptoms.

Best of luck to you!

 

[lostforgottensoul]

I would also caution you over going too deep into researching cults. People will leave a reminder about this every so often on there... Reading cult propoganda, no matter how innoculated by knowledge one is, WILL begin to get to you. Reading coercive persuasion in any form too much has a wonky effect. It just does. Believe me; I've gone too deep multiple times with terrible effects on my PTSD symptoms.

I dunno, it doesnt seem too active, if at all. I posted a reply to one that was moderated, so the moderator has to approve the post. My profile said i has 0 posts, then after a while it said 1 but my reply isnt there?

Just looking for something...

Support where people understand why i dont get it all yet, and dont feel the need to judge...

My therapist wrote another thing on the back of a business card today (i guess since i can see that it was a cult) "All cults are bad"...

I figure if i understand more then it will help but nothing seems to be helping...

Sigh, i dont know. Feel rather hopeless at the moment. Wish people could hear my head and hear just how hard i really am trying...

 

[lostforgottensoul]

I have noticed that the Cult Education forums have a very angry emotional tone regarding the past, whereas the tone here is a bit more about personal struggle day-to-day and the pain that stems from exploring our pasts. I don't know. See what you think. I think the angry overlay can be empowering, but it may not always get to the deeper issues and feelings.

I dont want angry either...just want support from people that 'get' where im at...and not feel the need to judge. Its my own issue, im not 'blaming' anyone. I made something public that i was scared to but did because i thought if i didnt and kept it a 'secert' that i wouldnt get better.

It seems i self do rituals in order to gain control, or at least thats what my therapist says about most if not all of them. Same thing with cutting, he dare not ask me to stop that (yet anyway) its mine but i know its mine to control my own pain...

He's not familur with any forum. He came across this one by googling "PTSD control" which is what he were talking about.

He's just saying that me still fully beliving what i was taught is the bigger issue, PTSD and its sympthoms is the smaller issue within the larger one.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

I brought up anthony's core belief article tho. He said that was a good thing to do but doesnt seem like im gonna be able to do it in sessions, just not enough time. Probably write it out and read it to him. I can just see that making me tailspin...

I dont know...

 

[scout86]

Here's a quote, from a web site. Someone else posted it, in a different thread, They got it from their T. "Ritual talks to the amygdala in a language it can understand.
Here's a link to the site. Link Removed I hope that works!

I thought that was an interesting idea. And something about it just feels "right", to me anyway. There's nothing saying you can't create rituals of your own, you know. Some that might be thought of as "positive"?

 

[lostforgottensoul]

I thought that was an interesting idea. And something about it just feels "right", to me anyway. There's nothing saying you can't create rituals of your own, you know. Some th

My problem: " rituals and ceremonies are everywhere, but the challenge is to replace the “dysfunctional” ceremonies—like those used in addiction—with healthy ones."

It seems easy to "replace" but for me it isnt.

Someone asked me why, why do i have to do them, i dont know. My therapist says its about control.

Its MUCH stronger than an addiction urge, the urge for a herion addict to use herion (i hate herion), but im a VERY strong willed person. I got myself off coke and crack, huffing up to 16 cans of duster a day, stopped smoking cigs in a week...all by myself but im a slave to these rituals.

Maybe ritual is a bad word for it, its not something i do at a certian time or even every day, its a coping thing. Bad feelings come, wake up from a nightmare etc is when i do it. So its replacing the bad feelings and i dont know of better ways to do that.

My therapist and i talked a lot about letting feelings pass through you, and its in the PTSD sourcebook i have and it says go deeper, but they are too strong, too much.

Ugh, i dont know. Can someone just put me out of my misery?

 

[lostforgottensoul]

@Simply Simon what about this one Dead Link Removed

I am just googling "cult recovery forum" and came across as alien/ufo stuff...WTF?

culteducation.com is ok but not active like this one is. Ok for info but i can get that from books & other sites too.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

He said it was fine to give voice to the distorted beliefs, so long as I gave equal or greater voice to it's counter. For example, if I said, "I feel worthless" I also said, "But to some people I mean the world, so I DO have value."

Thus my issue, cant find 'good' to counter the 'bad'...

 

[scout86]

I suppose some people might think replacing an old ritual with a new one is easy. I didn't say "easy" I said "possible". At least eventually it's possible. Maybe not all at once, but eventually.