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Isolation What Do I Do Now?

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@Silentwhisper43 - I am in a similar situation in so many ways. The second question that you posted interested me most as I feel like I can relate to it more and perhaps offer some measure of clarity.

Whether or not he feels the same for you... Nobody can answer that question other than the person experiencing it. My relationship with my guy started out in a very intense manner, lots of feelings, connection and passion involved and then lots of space and withdrawl. At first I was angry and confused as I had no idea what was happening and why would he act distant. With time, I just gained the understanding that he goes through episodes of detachment and neither I nor he can do anything to predict that or prevent that. To some people, it can be emotionally crushing and unsafe to be in a relationship like this. Care about the other person, but think of yourself as well. Is this what you want? Can you be in a relationship like this? It is a personal decision and you should decide for yourself if the commitment outweighs the emotional ups and downs.
 
@Silentwhisper43 - just wanted to add one more thing. Despite the distance and isolation communication is important here. Ask your loved one where you both stand. I asked mine and he told me that nothing towards me has changed. I have no reason not to believe him, and frankly, you have to choose to trust when you're in a relationship especially with someone who is trying to negotiate so much. Individuals with such difficulties can retreat into a bigger hole if they feel they are blamed and hurtful to others.
 
1. Should you wait?

I think you should. However, just how long you wait is highly individual. som...

I haven't had the chance to thank you for replying. I know the questions I'm asking are not ones that can really be answered by anyone but him, and that these questions have been asked many times on here. But I so appreciate the insight. The waiting game seems to be getting longer with broken promises of seeing me this week. But I feel like I'm getting stronger! I'm trying to stay focused on making myself happy and balanced, in the end this can only be a good thing. I'm going to wait it out a bit, it would be nice to at least be able to talk in person before totally jumping ship however I have also given myself a time limit for when it's appropriate for me to not wait any longer.

You're so right about all of the relationship as being real I can't start to tear things apart that way.

The more I'm reading, the stress level thing makes so much more sense. Especially when there were 4 other much more majorly stressful things that happened, at the same time we started dating, for him and then me, the cherry on the stress cupcake ;)

I'm learning a lot....a lot about patience

:)
 
@Silentwhisper43 - just wanted to add one more thing. Despite the distance and isola...

Thank you so much for replying. I hope things are getting better for both of you. Sounds like we are in similar situations. I have been taking the week to ask myself the hard questions. I've come to a decent understanding with myself where the line is. For example how long I'm going to wait with no real explanation of what's going on. I will ask him how he feels when I see him again, should I say IF I see him again. I can't get replys to those questions or really most anything through text and he disappears every time he says he will see me. So I'll wait a bit longer.

The emotional toll seems very high in the long run I question whether I would have the strength if he does show back up. You seem to have come to an understanding about what's going on in your relationship. Sounds like it takes a lot of communication and understanding.
 
@Silentwhisper43 I agree an informed decision, also one that is right for your heart,...

Thanks for the reply! I don't think this is really about me, I mean he wasn't trying to hurt me or play me. I just don't understand what he's doing or dealing with so like so many I have come to you gracious folks to search for the answers. So thanks :) ultimately those answers will come from my heart and his. I assume I'll see him again something points that way but who knows.

This person is evil but in the end my bf made his own decisions and unfortunately we are all paying the consequences. Good news is he is hanging out with one friend and he lives with brother and sister in law so he's safe and alive for now.
 
As a sufferer, I do agree fully with @glass half full and not only will it...

Yes I am learning this lesson! He is getting help and does want to get better so those are things he has going for him. As far as getting worse before better I can see this being very true and this is just the beginning.

I hope that things continue to hopefully approach better for you. Thanks for replying to my post I know I came running here asking questions that have been asked many times.
 
I know I came running here asking questions that have been asked many times.

Thats totally ok. There are MANY MANY MANY threads about the same things. Sometimes its better to repost because each situation is different and though we cant predict what another will do (like how long a person will isolate) we can help you in your specific situation.

What im trying to say is its better to repost than to go off of others because your situation is different than theres.

And you are very welcome! :hug:
 
@Silentwhisper43 - you know, I don't really have a choice but to be hopeful and look forward to better things. Lately, he has a lot going on it seems and I'm trying to give him the space and time he needs. That is not easy at all. I miss him like crazy even though I get a chance to see him at work briefly once or twice a week. He always approaches me, asks casual life stuff but won't reach out to me any other way. I should let this go for now because I know it's not good for me to think of this so much. I know he struggles. That is enough for me to emotionally back off and just let it be.
 
@Silentwhisper43 - you know, I don't really have a choice but to be hopeful and look...


I want to respond to two points made above- the first is that while there is great comfort and strength to be gained from reading existing strings, and that's very important- when the time comes that you're not sure you can continue to hang in there and wait- those other conversations will only provide very limited help. I hit that point last week and, as hard as it was to admit it and reach out, the support I received when I did was exactly what I needed. I could not have gotten that from accessing other strings. So, yeah I re- asked old questions, too and it was very ok.

The second thing is- I can't imagine how hard it would be to see your sufferer on a semi- regular basis and have him be polite but distant and still maintain your composure and hope. It has to be hard to maintain that balance and I have great respect for you for being able to that. I am not sure that I could ride that roller coaster for very long.
After eight weeks of isolation with the only contact limited to one very brief email- even though I know I need to let go and realistically move on- a part of me still hopes he will pop up. He works overseas, so running into him casually is not possible, however his employment contract ends in a few weeks. I suspect that the stress of pending unemployment and what he'll do and where next has been a big factor in his isolation. He identifies very strongly with being a provider and protector. I really don't know, though what triggered the withdrawal and he's been largely absent from social media as well during this time, so I think that may indicate he's withdrawn generally and not just from me. Despite knowing that I need to let go and succeeding- to some extent, its hard and my level of success varies from day to day. One of my biggest difficulties is trying to understand why he would walk away from so much that was good and positive- I don't doubt he loved me and probably still does; he felt safe with me and could go places he found intolerable without me, even within the past year or so. He also felt cared for by me in a way that he had not experienced in a very long time. To me, someone without PTSD, these are all really good reasons to stay in a relationship. And while I have come to understand the explanations from so many generous sufferers- I can only grasp those details at an intellectual level, not an emotional one. But, I'm working on it and while I try to keep it in check, a part of me still hopes he'll pop up one of these days because at one point he did value these things about our relationship even though they may also scare the living crap out of him, too.
 
@glass half full - thank you for sharing. Yes, it surely is a roller coaster. It's unpredictable, comes without any warning and lingers with no promise of reaching an ending point. There is a lot of uncertainty surrounding all these and I'm just working so hard to be patient, sensitive and understanding. I value who he is and see him more than someone who has issues. It's interesting that you mention that "they may also scare the living crap out of him". You know, in the beginning of our relationship he was so thrilled that I loved him so much, but recently he mentioned that he is overwhelmed by the depth and extent of my love for him, that he is "taken aback". I don't know what to make of this or how to move forward together knowing that he is "overwhelmed". I really thought that was what he wanted and now I have no idea what to think.

I am aware that he isolates because he has stuff going on and that it isn't me, but am not sure how to take these all in emotionally. It very challenging and that's just an understatement. It's a daily struggle in trying to direct my attention and focus on good things and look forward to better things. I was not aware of isolation/depression issues earlier, so it makes it even harder for me as I have grown to love this man more than I did before. I had the sense that we were in this together and that he would trust me and let me in, but he doesn't. I think he feels vulnerable and perhaps thinks that I may think that he's a less of a man because of all the issues, but that's not true at all. With all the distance and isolation, I communicate that I'm here for him and that he could tell me anything. But he doesn't. He wants me to see him smiling, I want to see him smiling AND I want to be there for him when he feels like crawling into a dark room and being there all day.

Can't think of anything other than being patient and waiting for him to reach out to me when he's ready. This distance is killing me but I don't have a choice other than being patient, praying and hoping for the best. I could not be more loving and caring to him and it is just terrifying sometimes to feel pushed away by someone you love so much. I have days, if I'm not at wok, that all I want to do is to stay in bed and just drown in pain. It is truly unbearable at times.
 
@glass half full - thank you for sharing. Yes, it surely is a roller coaster. It's u...


I think in many ways our vets are not proud of many of the things they did and probably not for the reasons we might think. Example- mine told me that he hated going out on patrol- Iraq and,Afghanistan. His reason? He hated having to be an asshole and trying to provoke aggression in the locals. No doubt the risk of his death was a factor, but being an asshole is what he's not proud of. That's a small example, but a pretty good one. This, along with the horror is what they don't want to share. And really, how to explain this? He used to tell me when he saw dead people and could not get them out of his mind, or he'd tell me that he had a stable of devils that he has to feed every day. These things are hard to put into words and hard to explain and share. I think he was better able to tell me because he is a gifted writer and had journaled his experiences over the years. Frankly, he only shared this with me when he was drunk. And he'd been in treatment for some time before he met me.

Our relationship was much like the description of so many others here- compatibility, passion, talking about a future. I've known players- he was not a player. Yet- about the time we began seriously taking about him looking for work back here and him coming home to stay- not just talking the talk- shortly after this, he tried to end the relationship. He told me he'd reconnected with someone from his past. I was devastated. I did not see it coming. A couple of days later, after the shock wore off, I began to realize this made absolutely no sense and called bullshit on him. While he never exactly fessed up- he eventually did in a roundabout way- communication was not totally severed. We did stop visiting via Skype, but we continued near daily conversations via email.

Our conversations began to become increasingly flirty and then bluntly suggestive. I loved it!!! We were going to resume Skyping again- loved that too! And shortly thereafter he went dark again, literally in the midst of a fun conversation. He'd gone dark briefly a couple of times before but never more than two weeks. As I mentioned before- its 8 weeks now, with 1 email saying he's ok and thanking me. Four words. Its not been possible to ask what he wants or how he feels. I suppose I could have, but based on the advice here, while I let him know I'll be here for him, it seemed counterproductive to press for answers, especially when we'd been steadily moving back to a greater level of intimacy- well such as is possible when we were 10,000 miles
and 8 time zones apart.

I kept in mind that he'd tried to end the relationship and had not done a very good job- he knows how. If he'd really wanted to he would have. Communication continued. And when he went dark he came back. I figured that again, if he'd wanted to end it, he knows how and hasn't. And the increasing intimacy had been his idea. Yes, I wanted to, but I specifically chose to let him take the lead on it, and he did. All of this said to me that he will be back. But as week turned to another and then another- although I was able to be strong, eventually I had to admit to myself that it was taking a huge toll and I needed a break. I had to let go. While I still think its possible, I also have to be realistic - whatever has freaked him out bad enough to isolate for eight weeks- isn't going to resolve for him when his contract ends and he gets on a plane to come home- if he chooses to come home. There's no way of knowing how long this can continue. Despite the fact that I love this man to pieces- I cannot make him came back to me or make it work out. And what do I want to do with my life?

Its hard. He is one of the great loves of my life and I do not want to walk away- but I also want to live a full life and that may mean leaving him behind. I want him to come back, but I can't make it happen.
 
I think in many ways our vets are not proud of many of the things they did and probably not for...

GHF this breaks my heart for you. I'm glad you're moving forward after all this time you've waited, that must be a difficult decision. I set a time frame for myself as to when I will move on completely that's helped with the anxiety. I'm living with the mindset it's over. My intuition and my heart says wait but I don't know enough about him to know if he will come back. I kind of don't think he will. Good luck to you if you ever need to vent or talk feel free to PM
 
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