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An Appology To Anyone That Will Receive It...

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@shimmerz (i cant reply to your comment at the moment due to work i wanted to thank you and @FridayJones (whom i see liked a comment) for not blocking me. You two have been so very helpful in my recent big step and though i really dont want anyone to block me (but understand why they would :sorry: ) i just wanted to thank you guys for hanging in there with me even though i cause a lot of trouble. Im sorry to you guys if i was rude in any way or made you guys feel bad in any way. Im sorry :sorry:
 
it defines me, to me anyway
I totally can relate to that. You might look at this as an opportunity. Think of yourself as a blank slate that you can define any way you want to. You're right, it's a learning process. And, in the process of learning, we all make mistakes. In fact. someone used to tell me that, if you want to double your rate of learning, you need to double you're rate of making mistakes.
"name 5 things good about you" if i could even name 5 things,
LOL I know I couldn't do that! Unless I resorted to stuff like "Well, I haven't kicked any little old ladies today...." Starting from scratch is hard. And makes you feel pretty stupid sometimes. I refer to this kind of thing as the "blank spots in my road map of reality". And I've started what I call my "cosmic cheat sheet" for stuff I probably should have learned before the age of 5 and managed not to learn. Like, I have a hard time with compliments. A few years ago, a good friend got PO'd at me because I always argued the point when he paid me a compliment. He said, "A compliment is like a gift. It's something someone gives you because they want to. It is NOT appropriate to argue with them. The thing to do when someone pays you a compliment is say 'Thank you' then shut up." I had NO idea! Bless him for telling me. From then on, when confronted with a compliment I can hear him, in the back of my mind saying "the appropriate thing to do with a compliment is say thank you then shut up!" It works! :) First item on my cheat sheet! Fortunately, my T gets this too and helps. Every now and then something will come up & he'll say "You really DON'T get how other people look at this, do you?" and then he'll just tell me. LOL It's not that I have to look at things like other people do, but it IS kind of helpful to be aware of the differences.
They scare me...
Fair enough! And that might be a good reason not to do one. Or it might not. Depends on the nature of the fear and what you want to do with it. Is this a specific fear OF something, or just generalized fear? What's the worst thing you think might happen?
But how do you invite or ask for people to participate?
I suppose you could name it something like "I sure hope someone reads and replies to my diary!". But, you can also do something like send someone a PM and say "Hey, Scout, I started a diary today, would you stop in and read it?" (I, for one, don't always notice when someone starts a diary.) Pick people who have shown an interest in you. Pick people you think you can learn from and, at least this is my thought, pick smart people who you don't think are going to agree with you all the time. One of the very best things about this forum is there are a fair number of people here who are totally willing to call BS when they think it's appropriate. The flip side of that is then you also know they aren't just being nice if they happen to agree with you. AND, I don't think there's anyone here who'd call you on something out of meanness. Oh, there's been a person or 2 float through since I've been here who would. They don't get to stay. And, there's the occasional person who's having a bad day & might snap at someone. There's also a lesson THERE. The world really DOESN'T come to an end just because someone snaps at you. Or disagrees with you.
But what im trying to say is i have to sorta "prove" to you that i really can underatand how you feel about something
No, actually you only THINK you have to prove it. You don't actually HAVE to prove anything at all.
a bunch of junk from the past, which to me wasnt even "bad" or 'horrible", it was justified.
Here's a proposed rule of thumb for you to consider. "If it would have been wrong or bad to do it to some random person, it was wrong for it to be done to you." Those who told you otherwise were wrong and probably were intentionally lying. Everything we are told is not true. Some is, some isn't. None of it is gospel. In the case of people who torture children I think it's safe to assume they were wrong about pretty much everything they said.
 
I recall having quite a few wrinkles along the way when I started posting here. I think a ton of it came down to not feeling like I was understood (although I hadn't really figured that out yet, I was just acting it out). If someone didn't understand a posting I HAD to keep posting until they did. (I struggle with this still when I am triggered).

I also had a TON of trauma stories I had just learned about myself and was still trying to digest and I was hoping that someone....anyone....could understand me. I felt so.... well.... different. It made me really neurotic about not being heard (not saying this about you at all - this was just me).

I also had also done so much therapy that I couldn't quite figure out how NOT to talk about me because my symptoms were so dramatic and I had lost track of other things. Again, just my experience.

Just hang in, lost. The world is full of people who 'get us' and people who don't. One of my lessons was realizing that just because someone doesn't get me, it doesn't mean my life is at risk. It was at one time, but it isn't now. So many of us struggle with communication. The good thing is, that so many of us 'get' that too.

Chill if you can. Really.
 
I recall having quite a few wrinkles along the way when I started posting here.
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao: :p :D

And we love you anyway!

Personally, I find most of the stories (everyone's stories) interesting. But they are STORIES. They are not credentials, they are not the whole person, and they don't prove anything. (For that matter, technically, we don't even usually have any way to know for sure it they're true!)
 
Is this a specific fear OF something, or just generalized fear? What's the worst thing you think might happen?

This is really hard to explain where someone can understand, but im on lunch now, so i'll try (and try not to do tje "thing" lol). Its a fear of talking about the past. Yes, i know i do that a lot BUT, when im talking about it due to trying to help someone else, like i have been, im not feeling the past, at all. Im completely seperated from my past and this is also something im atruggling with in therapy and its why im so terrified of EMDR (which he made a note to do tomorrow but not sure if he'll remember or if this site stuff is gonna take up the entire seasion). Also, im dyslexic, so when im reading or writing, my brain doesnt comprehend what im writing until i go back and re-read, up to 5 times (which is why im a lot of the times editing posts where im saying something different as i orgianlly wrote. Its the extreme paralyizing terror of feeling it all again, going back there, re-living it. Its something i know i must do but thats one.

The other is my brain is like "crazy town" and i would be committed if i wasnt so good at faking it and supressing it in the day and to even put on a diary what im thinking that day, its pain that i can numb away inside myself but if i write it, it feels like to me that i wont be able to numb it away and ive gone off the deep end more than once, 28 to be exact and i had a very bad huffing duster 'habit' that i stopped but was to 16 cans within a few hrs; i was trying to make it end me and i came close (though i dont count that in my 28) many times where my ex-roommates were checking for a pulse. I know if i start that again (the can has an obvious sound that cant be muffled) then my parents (dad and step mom) will be gone.

I thought i could put this in fewer words, im sorry. My therapist refers to me as "friagle" to my insureance company's therapist that okay's another year of therapy ever year. Thats the best way to put this. If i go too fast or push too hard, i tailspin so bad that i end up on the train tracks next to my house (a very popular local track that has very fast moving trains on it about every hour) and have no clue how i got on the tracks.

I dont know if any of that makes sense. Im sorry if i posted too much :sorry:

How to invite people makes sense.

No, actually you only THINK you have to prove it. You don't actually HAVE to prove anything at all.

Well thats what i meant. How i think is my reality. It might not be real reality and one ive very much fighting myself to change, but my reality nonetheless.

In the case of people who torture children I think it's safe to assume they were wrong about pretty much everything they said.

Except to me <---- how my brain works and yes its frustrating which is why i cant start from a blank page. There is no way on this green earth that i will be able to erase my entitiy of what currently is my core beliefs BUT i can change them. Your dog is chewing on you're child's stuffed animal. Take it away and it wants it still and looks for it. Replace it with a dog toy, it happy. Thats what im trting to do. Take away everything i know isnt possible as the human brain has beliefs, thus why most have some sort of religon, therefore we (my therapist and i) are trying to change it or give me the "dog toy" which is reality. Make any sense?
 
That totally makes sense. (And you're NOT talking too much. :))
BUT, when im talking about it due to trying to help someone else, like i have been, im not feeling the past, at all. Im completely seperated from my past and this is also something im atruggling with in therapy
Me too. I've had a couple of "conversations" with my T about "talking about stuff". My point of view being it's a waste of time because it doesn't change anything and CAN'T change anything. He says that's logical enough, especially if you have no experience with talking about stuff actually helping. But, logical or not, it's also wrong. :rolleyes: He says there's brain scan evidence to support his position. At the moment, we're agreeing to disagree. LOL But rumor has it that this is important.

So, I'm not going to tell you you should get on here and spill your guts. But, if you want people's input on stuff, you can use a diary for that too. As @FridayJones said to someone else, it's YOUR diary. You can use it any way you want to. I don't know how you feel about water, but you can look at it like starting by playing around in the shallow end of the pool. Have fun with it. Do exactly what you want. In fact, maybe get used to the idea that there IS a place where you CAN do exactly what you want. Sometimes realizing you actually have control over stuff takes some getting used to.
The other is my brain is like "crazy town" and i would be committed if i wasnt so good at faking it
You might be surprised to find out you're not as crazy as you think. But hang around awhile and I think you'll see that. Fortunately, none of US can get you committed! :)
 
(not saying this about you at all - this was just me).

Actually you just discribed me, include in that i dont feel my past was a bad thing because it was done to me and i feel i have to "prove" to others that i really do understand how they feel with a ton of regurgitated past stories to "prove" it and you have me. I spent a year telling my therapist no one understands and looking for someone, anyone, that could just to be abandoned every time. I expect abandonment.

(For that matter, technically, we don't even usually have any way to know for sure it they're true!)

I know you meant nothing by this but just had to comment anyway; my mom & step dad had a bon fire to burn all "evidence" the day before i moved out and threw all of my art in there for fun; now its my word against hers and no one believes me, another thing i stuggle with, trying to "prove" it really happened. Not sure who would lie about this but no one would keep it up for 7 yrs and watch every member of their family leave.

Who googles user names, email addys, names, phrases just to find me, print everything, pass it along to everyobe and then cause a ton of shit. Dont believe me, fine, but leave me alone!

Just had to get that off my chest. I hate my family! Not really but i hate what they do to me.
 
Fortunately, none of US can get you committed

Lol, indeed. Ive never even given anyone my real name or where on the east coast of the US i am, and didnt name the local train that goes by my house as i do live in a very well known city worldwide.

The pool thing makes sense. Its just that this sort of conversation is what helped so much so fast and they scare me...BUT im a VERY strong willed person and have laughed at fear's face before (then ducked) lol.
 
when im talking about it due to trying to help someone else, like i have been, im not feeling the past, at all.
This is quite brilliant actually. I hadn't thought of this in quite this way. It makes great sense. Externalizing.

Not feeling the past is very usual. I have many stories of that myself. You are doing fine, and remember that if your posts are wordy (for some) they can glance through them. Not a big deal. I don't think you have to convince anyone here of your understanding of things. We get that this stuff lives deep and your insight is important. With or without validation by using your past history.

Way to ground out Lost. Really good job.
 
There's nothing to apologize to me, directly for / I have no animus here.

Although I agree that a very good part of making a mistake is apologizing* when warranted. See a mistake (or problem, two different things), apologize, correct, & move on. Was I concerned? Yes. Am I still? A bit. What will happen? Shrug. We'll see. In order to survive a lot of trauma most people tend to both be really adaptable as well as really black and white / fiercely protective of some things. Both can serve us well, or serve us badly, or both. I made a point I knew you probably wouldn't like (that what you were asking for didn't make sense, even if it felt like it did at the time), and an opinion about the situation at hand / what I saw happening, which was the exact opposite of what you saw happening. The likelihood either would be taken well? Even though meant well? Slim to none. That doesn't bother me, though. There was no reason for me to continue trying to press my opinion. I understood your reasoning, I simply disagreed with it. My opinion is just that, an opinion.

*My own reasoning with apologies... You'll see me say this across the forum from time to time: Something I use in my own life** / teach my kids is TheTimeoutCompemdium ;) In my house, timeouts aren't punishments, ever. They're a time to let hot emotions fade & cool reason back in. Meltdown? First get calm. Calm enough to be able to answer 4 questions without being immediately ramped back up into whatever emotion storm kicked off in the first place. 1. What happened? 2. Why did it happen? 3. What are at least two things I can do differently next time? (Because there will always be a next time) 4. Put it right (how can I?) to the best of my ability.

To use a fight I had with another member awhile ago as an example: 1. What happened? I got in a fight with someone. 2. Why did it happen? I lost my temper. ((If I hadn't lost my temper & joined in it wouldn't have been a fight.)) 3. What are at least two things I could do differently next time? Not reply in anger (not meaning say nothing, respond or not, but if I had responded calmly / waited until I was calm? Instead of lashing out? Totally different thing), or report the post that attacked people I love, or ignore it entirely, or ignore member, or etc. (really the more options the better; not only does black and white thinking / that cognitive distortion hates multiple answers, but it gives me more tools to work with). 4. how do I put it right? Apologize where I was wrong (I wasn't wrong in some parts, was in others), work on managing my temper, talk it out with some people I trust -who will tell me if I'm being an ass-, not continue the fight, correct & move on, etc.

** As always, these are just things I use in my own life. Not all things work for all people, much less translate well.
 
in therapy and its why im so terrified of EMDR

Be careful with EMDR. Sounds like you have a fantastic therapist, but this can be problematic with CPTSD, as I learned doing it. After a few sessions I was having too much coming up and not being able to contain. I was also in a more acute state from recent traumas at the time. I read up on it after the fact and saw EMDR can be problematic for both CPTSD and acute trauma, I guess because it's difficult in such cases to isolate single traumatic events.

I knew someone with far far less traumatic history than you've described who nonetheless used the trauma to defend and justify awful antisocial and destructive behaviors. Understanding that you are not ready to see yourself as a good person, I think this is something that stands out about you. You are not interested in hurting other people but in seeking authentic good connections. I haven't seen anything in any of your postings that would qualify as malice. You seem like a good person.

Realized a never stated reason you may be averse to diary. Glad you are finding a lot more encouraging responses from people. Trust can be very difficult when it has not been what you have known. Takes a lot of courage to keep seeking it.
 
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