Another Deception....

[Deleted member 5760]

Curiouser - quite honestly Im not gonna get into this because I know you will defend EFT to the death (or near death)... hehe (am I wrong?)

She said she preferred the top of the hand. And also declined to teach me because she felt it was unneccesary as I already seemed to be displaying results of EFT without tapping anywhere (you also said you dont tap anywhere now?). Said it would basically be a waste of time because the results it brings were already there. As for further explanation - you'll have to ask her....? I'm NOT an EFT master and have never claimed to be. I'm not here to debunk it.

 

[curiouser]

I should mention this info is coming from the EFT founder Gary Craig, other EFT Master Practitioners (those who are certified and have a certain number of clinical hours under their belts) and the principles and beliefs EFT therapy is based off of.

 

[Deleted member 5760]

Like I said - if it works for you what does it matter? That is honestly my view on any form of therapy. If it works for YOU - good. No arguments from me.

 

[curiouser]

Superjen, (((hugs))) it's just some discussion, that's all, just opinions, not facts -I always appreciate and respect what you have to say.:)

Every therapist and EFT practitioner uses and understands EFT a little differently. The therapist who taught it to me, taught it differently than the way I learned it from Gary Graig's and other EFT practitioner's information when I researched it myself. I totally agree with you that it's an individual thing and what works for one person may not work for another.

A note on the not tapping thing, you can get good enough where physical tapping isn't necessary, but what that means is you do mental tapping instead, so if you're somewhere where you don't feel comfortable physically tapping, you mentally imagine tapping on each one of the points and the feeling of it etc, while you say the setup phrases softly.

I also know some people prefer to just use the EFT setup phrases as affirmations instead, or there's also surrogate tapping, where someone who knows EFT can tap on your issues for you, this is often used for special needs children, very young children, and even pets.

 

[Deleted member 5760]

((((((hugs)))))) same curiouser!

 

[tigrou465]

Well well. I taught posting HOW I felt would help me. As you all know I speak mostly French. My understanding in this post is that there are a discussion between 2 person who seems to have different opinion on the subject. Unfortunateley THAT DOES NOT HELP ME. I'm going through a bad time, going in a roller coster of emotion. I don't care who'S right or who's wrong in the therapy mentionned above all I want is to get better. I'm desapointed presently becauseingting seem to work for me: Can'T do EMDR because I strongly react to this emotion (I have panic attact, anxiety, nightmare) Meds have a very limited action (I'm presently using 5 types of meds to help me throught but I took a lot of kind of meds) my last attempt with accuponcture, he said to me " was a hard case" and I have to decide if I will take electroconvulsion treatment to "try" to fell better. I'm desperate, I'am tired of trying without result. My brain is tired (do try to get more in my head, it's overfolwing!!!) Just had enough. When you guys and girls debate about where to "tap" or not where to tap, THAT DOES not help me. Maybe I don't understand everything but one thing I understand is that I'm mad, I'm crying and fell alone instead of felling heard and supported. I'm sorry ffor my saying here...

 

[tigrou465]

IT'S realy ANOTHER ANOTHER DECEPTION.

 

[Deleted member 5760]

I dont appreciate that tigrou. I'm not your therapist. It is not my fault if you are struggling and I am sorry and empathise. Im having a bit of a rough day myself (anniversary and all). I've done nothing to you. If I was unable to solve your problems I apologise, but I never said I could.

 

[Deleted member 5760]

I do hope that you recognise that curiouser and I are *friends* and that both of us take our time to post on this site because we have good intentions and do wish to help.

 

[curiouser]

Tigrou, I'm sorry if you felt that by Jen and I having a discussion about EFT and Acupuncture on a thread you started was in some way disrespectful to you or hijacking your thread. I assure you that was neither mine or Jen's intentions, sometimes threads go a bit off topic. Honestly Jen and I are friends and have great respect for each other.

Regardless of what Jen or I think about EFT or Acupuncture, the decision you have to make on how best to proceed with your healing is something you'll have to make yourself. Which is how it should be, because you are the one whom it affects. Discussions are not a bad thing though, sometimes it's good to get different view points (respectfully) on something, and be more aware of the different options you have out there.

I'm sorry things are so difficult for you right now, unfortunately it's impossible to know for certain what therapy will be the one that helps before you try it. However I can say for certain that if you give up and don't try anything, you will have missed a chance to possibly have success. We only really fail when we stop trying. So please don't give up, because you never know when things might turn around.

Again, I'm truly sorry if I have offended or hurt you.

 

[tigrou465]

Everything is so wrong... All I do, whether it doesn't not work or wheter I do everything wrong. I'm a mess. I'm sorry I read that you Curioser and Jen were getting mad about opinion on this therapy. I read everythning wrongly... I.m sorry to have botter you all. So sorry

 

[Deleted member 5760]

tigrou it is fine. Don't give it a second thought. Misunderstanding. As I said, I'm not having the best day myself. I'll quite honestly acknowledge that - so my apologies to you too. And apology accepted.