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treva31
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Ok well sorry to bother you all, clearly a no vote, so I'll just forget the idea.
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Anyone For Mdma Assisted Psychotherapy?
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Friday
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Don't jump ship so quickly @treva31. If you're a combat vet with PTSD, you can probably understand a little wariness. Stick around. Get to know some folks. lol. It's less a no-vote, and more a don't know ya yet vote.
Personally, I've used MDA, MDMA, & various Ecstasy cocktails. Along with just about every other damn thing, the last time I went through this. Can't say whether it helped or not, since I was chasing some serious oblivion at the time. Not just drugs and alcohol, but re-exposure, extreme sports, dangerous work, sex, fighting, sleep, you name it.
I've read that intentional/therapeutic use of MDMA is supposed to shave years off of recovery time, since it's pretty much instant-trust/childlike state. I know quite a few people (including vets) who are strong proponents of getting it in general use ASAP for vets, because we're a bunch of untrusting motherf*ckers to begin with ;) and PTSD really puts a polish on that... So shaving years off treatment time would save a lot of lives, because we might could actually process things. Personally, knowing what state of mind e-tabs and their purer components put me in, there is no way on earth I'd roll with people I didn't already trust. Catch22. So I sit on the fence in this particular debate.
Personally, I've used MDA, MDMA, & various Ecstasy cocktails. Along with just about every other damn thing, the last time I went through this. Can't say whether it helped or not, since I was chasing some serious oblivion at the time. Not just drugs and alcohol, but re-exposure, extreme sports, dangerous work, sex, fighting, sleep, you name it.
I've read that intentional/therapeutic use of MDMA is supposed to shave years off of recovery time, since it's pretty much instant-trust/childlike state. I know quite a few people (including vets) who are strong proponents of getting it in general use ASAP for vets, because we're a bunch of untrusting motherf*ckers to begin with ;) and PTSD really puts a polish on that... So shaving years off treatment time would save a lot of lives, because we might could actually process things. Personally, knowing what state of mind e-tabs and their purer components put me in, there is no way on earth I'd roll with people I didn't already trust. Catch22. So I sit on the fence in this particular debate.
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OK, Friday, to answer your question. This site is and has always been for Combat Vets with PTSD, nothing has changed with that nor is it likely to. The other PTSD site is for anyone with PTSD, period. As far as admins go, we still have the same abilities as before. Personally, I won't lock, delete or ban anyone just for posting a thread like this. We get a lot of threads like this and I think the people here can determine what's up with it pretty quickly.
What is new, though, is that any member here or group of members that think a thread is 'inappropriate' can choose to get rid of it. See Anthony's thread about the new updates where he explains that in more detail. It puts more of the decisions concerning those things in the hands of everyone here.
There will always be those that have something that's going to help vets with PTSD. What their intentions are may seem questionable but some may be just trying to help. It can be hard to sift through all that to make the correct determination in regard to the individual. As with all these things, time will tell whether a person wants to be a 'real' member here or is something else. I nor anyone except Treva knows for certain. And I mean no disrespect when I say that.
On a personal note, I read everything that comes along having to do with treatment of PTSD. The current modalities work for most who put in the effort necessary to move forward. But no one thing will work for everyone. I just urge caution when thinking about a 'new' method, whether it's stated to 'work' or not. There's just no magic bullet that's going to either 'cure' or even 'speed up' the treatment time for getting to a better point in life with PTSD.
So, back to my original message which is the community here is now as much in charge of what stays and what goes as far as threads are concerned. There aren't many admins here and one is not always on board when things may occur.
What is new, though, is that any member here or group of members that think a thread is 'inappropriate' can choose to get rid of it. See Anthony's thread about the new updates where he explains that in more detail. It puts more of the decisions concerning those things in the hands of everyone here.
There will always be those that have something that's going to help vets with PTSD. What their intentions are may seem questionable but some may be just trying to help. It can be hard to sift through all that to make the correct determination in regard to the individual. As with all these things, time will tell whether a person wants to be a 'real' member here or is something else. I nor anyone except Treva knows for certain. And I mean no disrespect when I say that.
On a personal note, I read everything that comes along having to do with treatment of PTSD. The current modalities work for most who put in the effort necessary to move forward. But no one thing will work for everyone. I just urge caution when thinking about a 'new' method, whether it's stated to 'work' or not. There's just no magic bullet that's going to either 'cure' or even 'speed up' the treatment time for getting to a better point in life with PTSD.
So, back to my original message which is the community here is now as much in charge of what stays and what goes as far as threads are concerned. There aren't many admins here and one is not always on board when things may occur.
Hey Loca
I'm with you on that. It's hard to know sometimes if they're for real or not. But yes, it's odd. We're an open forum and you can find it on google, need I say more. Kinda' opens the door to all kinds of stuff. It could always be worse. I still don't know if it's for real or not. Like all things, we all get to make up our own minds. Luckily, this is still that kind of place.
Jar
I'm with you on that. It's hard to know sometimes if they're for real or not. But yes, it's odd. We're an open forum and you can find it on google, need I say more. Kinda' opens the door to all kinds of stuff. It could always be worse. I still don't know if it's for real or not. Like all things, we all get to make up our own minds. Luckily, this is still that kind of place.
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MDMA assisted psychotherapy is actually highly recommended for combat veterans. The problem is that it's only in trial stages around the world, thus people pushing for trial participants. The information given above is quite accurate and concise, though the member was spamming the forum in relation to how they've gone about things.
I wrote about it recently here: Link Removed
There is a link at the bottom of that page to the only dedicated site with scientific scope available / I would ever recommend, on the entire subject. The results are truly outstanding. You're looking at the highest rate of no longer meeting diagnostic criterion for any method to date, 80%+ along with even the remainder experienced significant symptom drop that they no longer felt as overwhelmed, anxious, depressed, so forth, each day.
Cut a long story short... it allows the therapy process to actually occur, and occur as quickly as possible over the fewest sessions possible.
I wrote about it recently here: Link Removed
There is a link at the bottom of that page to the only dedicated site with scientific scope available / I would ever recommend, on the entire subject. The results are truly outstanding. You're looking at the highest rate of no longer meeting diagnostic criterion for any method to date, 80%+ along with even the remainder experienced significant symptom drop that they no longer felt as overwhelmed, anxious, depressed, so forth, each day.
Cut a long story short... it allows the therapy process to actually occur, and occur as quickly as possible over the fewest sessions possible.
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anthony
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To put it bluntly... every veteran struggling with PTSD should be trying to get onto one of these studies, because it will change your life either entirely, or atleast give you a whole lot more relief than you're currently experiencing.
Obviously therapy can only go so far... this doesn't cure PTSD.
Obviously therapy can only go so far... this doesn't cure PTSD.
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