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Attachment In Therapy - Another Thread

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Pencil

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My first therapist (my only therapist, really) once said ‘You never talk about things that hurt.’ I tend not to, but I am going to do so here, and I’m going to ask members to respond very, very sensitively.

I have severe attachment issues – a fearful avoidant disorganized mess. Seeking out people / experiences that reinforce one’s attachment style is par for the course, which meant that all attachments I did form simply made the mess worse. To add to the confusion: As an adult I don’t seem to attach, whereas the child seems to attach rather indiscriminately. The only sane response to this was to withdraw completely from people / society, which I did - for 9 years.

In August 2012 a series of events happened, during which I (the damn child) ‘accidentally’ attached to a counsellor (with whom I discussed a practical matter regarding my daughter). I went into a blind panic. It did not help that the counsellor thought I was in love with her.

My first reaction was to withdraw completely again, but found that I feared total isolation on the one hand, and attachment on the other, in equal measures. This sent me into another tailspin . At that point I thought I needed a psychologist (after some bad experiences in the past which made me avoid them). Two psychologists passed me on. The first said therapy would be too destabilizing for me. She also said: ‘You seem to have found something that works for you. Why don’t you just stay there?’ She also used the terms ‘complex trauma’ and ‘disorganised attachment’. The second seemed fine but phoned me on the eve of our second session to cancel and refer me to an inpatient program – which was simply not feasible. Besides, the idea of being cooped up with people (my # 1 fear) gave me palpitations and other physical symptom that would not be polite to mention. By that time three months had passed. I joined the forum - and posted frantically and erratically – but held onto my sanity. It was here that I learned that I had been hit by flashbacks and other PTSD symptoms. Not one of the 3 therapists bothered to tell me what was happening to me.

In a state of absolute panic and despair I contacted a third. Needless to say, my attempts at getting into therapy were making the mess worse – and so I started with the third in a REALLY bad state – wanting to run, but terrified of isolation.

I told her my sorry story during the first session. At the end of the session she said she needed another session for an assessment and to decide whether or not to take me on. I went home and flipped. I cancelled via email, as I just couldn’t bear the idea of hanging on for a full week with the likelihood of being sent packing again. She phoned me and committed to therapy with me. I was enormously grateful and relieved.

I had two sessions a week between October and January, with two breaks in between. The sessions were stirring up all kinds of issues and I was getting into a rapidly worse state. After the second break we had a ‘rupture’. This unfortunately coincided with a total financial collapse. (I am a freelancer and couldn’t focus on work.) I could not continue therapy. The last session was on 7 January 2013.

Sorry to say, but all of this has been background. Now for the real issue:

The therapist has stayed in contact with me via email, with the understanding that I will return to therapy when I get on my feet financially. However, the - [ whatever it was that happened post August 2012 ] – has caused so much emotional upheaval that I’ve not been able to recover – emotionally or financially. In our email contact, which is NOT therapy, I obviously don’t say much. It is really just maintaining the attachment, and a way for me to be attached without freaking out, running away, terminating, becoming hostile – all those endearing things people with attachment disorders do. And I am enormously grateful. I am not unnecessarily dramatic when I say that I would have lost my mind without this contact. For no matter how difficult I find being attached to anyone, I fear total isolation terribly – whereas isolation had been my refuge for nearly a decade.

My issue is that she gives me enough to hold onto, but nothing more. Whenever I say anything she responds with ‘this is something we will hopefully be able to discuss in therapy’. We’ve reached the stage where it seems sensible to send a blank email and wait for a blank email in return, as the contact simply serves to maintain the contact, and it seems rather pointless. I’ll only be able to see her when I’ve recovered financially, but if I can get myself together enough to earn enough to be able to see her, there would be no point in returning as it will destabilize me again and I’ll have to terminate again until I’ve recovered again.

I don’t really know what I want in response. I guess I just want to get another take on this. Am I ungrateful? Is she missing something? Am I missing something? Is this pointless or an excellent strategy? She is going way above and beyond the call of duty – in fact there is no duty, she could have cut me off altogether. But this has been going on for more than a year. I was severely traumatized when I last saw her. I’ve managed to push it all away just to get through the day and try to function. But keeping myself calm and reasonably functioning takes a lot of energy, and getting through the day without losing a grip on it all seems to be my main focus.

I don’t know whether my discomfort has to do with the situation or with my attachment issues. I think it’s often a mixed bag, but I also suspect that this arrangement is not really conducive to developing a secure attachment. There are obviously other issues underneath all of this, starting with abuse, neglect and abandonment - and all the neglect issues have surfaced. I KNOW she is not 'neglecting' me, but tell that to the child who wants to connect. Instead, this 'attachment' is managed on an adult level. I've tried letting go, but this sends me into a panic. But holding on has its own problems (It stirs up a lot of unresolved mommy issues).

I’m confused.

@Monster: thanks - you gave me the courage to post this.

Please be kind in your response.
 
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Pencil, there is a profound sense of irony for me in reading this. Because you are so insightful and so well-spoken and so sensitive to these issues in all the right places. As I read this, I feel like I notice you creating a new double bind for yourself - that, if you try to confront your trauma, you will lose your hard-won autonomy and stability, and thus lose everything again. That you are caught between a rock and a hard place, forced to do this work on your own.

I don't mean to psychoanalyze you but I recognize a line of thinking similar to my own at other times. Is there any way to stop drawing a distinction between "the situation or ... my attachment issues" and see the situation as always a manifestation of your attachment issues with some sense of trust in this therapist that she will help you get through the double binds to a place of more freedom and well-being?

I had a bad therapist for a few years who made herself extremely available to me in times of crisis and created a sort of f*cked-up maternal bond with me. When I finally walked away, it was very challenging. From what you are saying of this person, she sounds quite savvy at valuing the importance of being connected while also drawing a healthy boundary. Given that trauma innately gets reactivated in our relationships, I see it as quite protective of you that she is not willing to engage too much. The worst thing she could do would be to recreate the sort of compromised double-bind relationship that surely got you to this place initially. My vote goes to: excellent strategy.
 
a new double bind
Thanks @LostPup, and that is what the confusion is about. I vacillate between thinking that she knows what she's doing, and she's simply letting me hang on so as not to feel crap about her lack of compassion if she tells me to get lost.

In a way it is a repetition of the mommy thing - she was there but not there, she seemed totally unaware of what was happening in my life/experiences/emotions, neither did she care. I never knew what she noticed. Only much later did I realize that she knew more than I realized. In a way I feel in exactly the same place. The therapist is 'there' but I still have to process every thing on my own. I KNOW I'm not in therapy with her and so she is not available for processing, but I have no idea whether she'd like me to disappear, whether she also thinks this is getting ridiculous as I should have recovered financially by now, or whether all of this is going according to plan. I've learned not to ask as her responses are non-committal, or lean towards the 'I know there are so many obstacles and impossibilities'.

See - I'm confused!
 
Pencil, I'm so sorry you are struggling through this. I have pretty serious attachment issues myself. It took a long time for me to get up the courage, and find the financial resources, to see a therapist that could help. I have very disorganized and avoidant attachment style.

I think what concerns me is that this therapist has been emailing you for over a year, and during that year, you haven't really been getting the help or healing you need and want. You have been getting a connection that maybe is easing the pain, and that is good - but not really the deep healing work you need. Maybe?

I want to gently challenge you that there may be different ways to look at this. What you write is written with a lot of absolutes, very black and white thinking. I'd probably do the same myself!

My T told me that working through attachment issues requires the therapist to be pretty available for a season. Maybe seeing someone else you can afford to be there in a way you need would be a better.

Maybe returning to her would not destabilize you. Maybe this time she can engage you in a way that will help you stay stabilized. I have also been in the place where therapy sessions have been deeply destabilizing and I nearly had to quit many times. Learning to contain the work is essential for most people in trauma therapy and most therapists can help with containment.

Maybe returning to her would destabilize you, and this is a sign not to give up on the process all together, but instead to do some work with a therapist on skills to be grounded and more mindful so that later you can engage this therapist and do the deeper work that is needed. (I had to do that myself)

There are lots of double binds built into the situation, AND, I think that seeing it so absolutely.... like this "will" happen, or so much "only" or always/never thinking... that intensifies the binds. I also think you might be reenacting or transferring the attachment you had with your mother to this therapist. It's not your fault, it happens. It is expected and inevitable and can be used to heal attachment wounds. A good trauma T will help you change that, but it does take being able to see them and process with them, not just the trauma, but to process the relationship with the therapist too. My therapist and I have talked about the therapy relationship itself from the very beginning and it has been weird, and yet deeply helpful in changing how I relate and connect to people in my life in general.

Just some thoughts...
 
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@Justmehere - thank you very much for your response. I really have to get a handle on this now - after being in a place that feels like limbo.

There are many things you say that I need to think about. But, yes:


I also think you might be reenacting or transferring the attachment you had with your mother to this therapist
Absolutely, I'm very aware of this. And this limbo is part of it. I learned to keep a safe distance from my mother and when I was 12 I stopped talking to her altogether. Ironically, this 'arrangement' with the therapist feels exactly like that - a need to be closer, but not being able tp. This is made more complicated by the issue that led to the rupture, and makes me think that seeing her therapy would be potentially very upsetting. [That is another bugger up altogether, and not part of this thread.] And so I really am in a double bind - too scared to run away and too scared to go closer - which is an exact duplicate of my relationship with my mother. Shit, I can't hang in this grey limbo forever.

I guess I'm trying to work up the courage to let go. I'm really terrified.
 
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Hey there, Pencil! I have a question. Does the information you share destabilize you? Or, does the relationship you share destabilize you? I wish I had an answer and could help. Unfortunately, all I can say is that I am glad you are trying to figure things out. You are incredibly smart and strong! You have got this!
 
Rumors!!

Both. At the time, which was after my sister's death, I had flashbacks (the first and only time ever). It was made worse by the attachment to the counselor. At this stage I am ignoring the past again, and so it is mainly the relationship that destabilizes me.
 
This situation doesn't sound easy to me at all! No fun!

However, personally, I say go see someone else entirely that is free and/or within your budget. I know that means dealing with attachment issues, but it seems like there are so many issues with this therapist outside of the issues that you need to deal with that untangling them will take awhile, "wasting time" (in a sense) by not getting to your core issues, which would be the fastest way to fully healing.
 
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Thanks Bell. This is what I've been thinking as well. There are two issues: I'm not sure we have (acceptable) services available in South Africa. 2) I'm loathe to give up and add this to my very long list of failures. I also get into a state when I think of letting go. But I know I have to. And if I manage to let go without losing my mind, I really don't want to form another attachment and risk another disaster.

So, the point is, I have to let go. Oh f*ck I'm scared, and I don't understand it.
 
I wish I had words of wisdom, but I am afraid all that I can offer is support while you are trying to figure things out. Tough call. However, I think it is one that you need to explore seriously until you can find a solution that puts you in a place where you can move forward. ;)
 
solution that puts you in a place where you can move forward
Thanks Rumors. Indeed. I just wish I knew which side of my ambivalence is valid. I've been stuck in this seesaw for a year now, and it is time to move.

Perhaps she is the wrong person. She has been amazingly giving, but she is not nurturing. I know that many people will be horrified by such a statement, but some approaches are more nurturing than others, and the pscychodynamic is icy.
 
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