News Clinton Vs Trump

[joeylittle]

She does have a strange lesion in her tongue, she falls quite a bit.

Great. I cannot believe that this is actually a thing. But I look it up and lo and behold, Hilary Clinton has a canker sore and it gets labelled cancer.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

I'd really like to see the media swarm put more attention on the issues, and less on this surrounding noise that is nothing but muckraking.

Me too!

Its been going on the entire election on both sides really and its annoying!

Id say there more hits at Clinton as Trump hits himself mostly but it is rather annoying!

 

[sedna]

I respect your opinions @gizmo, and the fact that you give a lot of thought to things...

I just want to add something here, thats why I'm using reply to myself. That was long, and I had a dinner date with my dog.

I'm going to fill in a couple blanks, and its just off the top of my head because these type of business machinations are something I'm familiar with. I dont have to google to spot the shifty where's Waldo in this picture.

I'd guess there are two main questions about my theory. One, if it's that obvious, why doesn't every other business person + the government see it.
Two, why haven't the Democrats or the government in general pointed at the issue, instead of calling him a bad business man and a tax cheat.

1) The entire empirical business practice of Trump depends upon exploiting a weakness in the IRS, pointedly I'm calling out, forensic accountants that are a mix of only slightly inept, with the easily intimidated, and the screw it lets just not make it complicated types that are in all badly paid but high power jobs. Keep in mind, they're in a situation where doing the right thing means massive unwanted publicity for their entire govt. organization. That means there is literally zero room for error, because if you've made a little mistake somewhere, then its not about you and your job. Its about the agency that millions of Americans think screw them unfairly out of hard earned pay every single year.

The IRS is the equivalent of 5 angry high maintenance ex-wives that can legitimately show that you spent every single dime you made during the marriage making them happy, and they're doing you a favor by letting you get away with only giving them half for 10 years.

We will all look back at tax returns if fingers get pointed at the IRS and the guys that get sent out to assess guys like Trump.

2) That's why. What he is doing is hide your money if your smart and impatient 101. There is no one that's been in a similar position, that doesn't see it like the Easter Bunny standing on Santa's sleigh the way I do. We also all know why it's handled the way it is.

 

[sedna]

I just want to add something here, thats why I'm using reply to myself. That was long, and I had a dinner...

I've decided to add just one more thing. Because if I dont, I'll easily wander into another debate on the issue.

The one smart thing I've ever seen Trump do, is refuse to declare a party affiliation. What he's been doing on a large scale to manipulate the government for personal gain isn't shocking. What the public doesn't realize, is that it's a common practice. People get caught and fined regularly, they're not always less wealthy than Trump. They're less high profile.

Neither the Democratic or the Republican party wanted to touch this one, because you cant find any of them that could hold up over independent, not government, forensic accountants either.

Having tabloids spell out how that worked, is the only alternative to blaming incompetent IRS agents. Except, he didnt have the same agents going over this, in each state, for each business, spanning 35 years.

All those Pro American lets make America Great Again voters and even the Ted Nugent loving I'll just grab my Winchesters and load up my Chevy flatbed to protect my Christian values Trump supporters, will drop those rifles and printouts of the 2nd Amendment and start looking for tax returns going back decades.

I am not suggesting that everyone that wants to vote Trump is in that category, I'm saying that even they would look at this differently if they understood it from the perspective of this side. It is why Republicans have declared they wont vote for him.

He has his own scandal, its one that's more meaningful in many ways to us than Hilary's e-mails.

Okay- now I'm done. Promise.

 

[Justmehere]

The one smart thing I've ever seen Trump do, is refuse to declare a party affiliation.

What do you mean? He's declared a party affiliation many times. Donald Trump changed political parties at least five times: report

 

[scout86]

I'd still kind of like to know why the rape allegations get ignored. I haven't heard their credibility questioned and they sure seemed worth considering.

 

[Deleted member 12723]

I saw the picture and it is a great big hole in her tongue as if she had taken out a tongue piercing. I have had cankersores and that was no canker sore so go ahead and believe what you want.

I have seen pictures of men holding her up by her arm in order for her to be able to make a speech. I have seen picture of her being helped by two men holding her and helping her to go up some stairs.

Pretty much go ahead and believe what you want.

 

[Justmehere]

Both Clinton and Trump are senior citizens who are not known for super heathy lifestyles but are known for having high stress jobs. It's expected they could have numerous on-going health issues. I wouldn't be surprised if Clinton has had a biopsy of her tongue and if the older Trump has health issues of his own. I would actually be more worried if Trump has never had a biopsy or condition that is being watched because statistically, 70 year old men should be regularly screened for more conditions than his doctor is trained to screen for.

For me, and my own consideration, Clinton could have Ebola and I still wouldn't vote for Trump.

But I respect that for others, health is a big factor and there are many suspected physical health conditions for Clinton. There are also suspected mental health conditions for Trump.

 

[Justmehere]

I do wish for physical and mental health for both. I rather have them lose because they have bad policies not because they have bad physical or mental health.

I rather have a president win because they have good policies, not just better or "the best ever" health.

 

[Justmehere]

As a side note: it seems a little ironic that we are debating the value of a leader based on suspected but not confirmed health issues.

On a health centered forum.

What does that say about us?

Lincoln had depression. Roosevelt was in a wheelchair. We have had great leaders with real mental and physical health issues before.

I beleive must look past the concern of a leader having a health issue and really consider if there are better ways to measure the value of the leadership style of a person?

 

[sedna]

What do you mean? He's declared a party affiliation many times. [URL="Link Removed...

True! I should have said ' commit ' to a political party. He does declare things a lot. ;)

 

[Deleted member 12723]

I think that a independent mental and health examination be for every candidate running for public office. This is too important for the future of America in my opinion. Both candidates are guilty of flip flopping opinions now as this is just my opinion. I have seen both Clinton and Trump do double talk on positions from the past to the persona they now display. I have many questions for both candidates. The effort to remake themselves is necessary I guess in todays politics but I really agree their needs to be an investigation on both candidates as there are far too many scandals and thus we find ourselves in the quagmire we experience in this election.

I think that they are both narciccists to be able to withstand the opposition they each face. Nor saying that this is a good thind yet it comes with the territory.

Thank you @Justmehere for the common sense redirect. I appreciate this very much.