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News Clinton Vs Trump

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Yeah, he was getting boohed a lot at that dinner. Thank God, Hillary spoke after him and managed to get things on a more sane track. She's not a natural comedian, but I do not require my president to be a comedian. That job is for the late show hosts. Being president is a totally different job and she is eminently qualified for it.
 
Clinton did not reveal anything about the nuclear timetable that wasn't already widely known: Did Hillary Clinton reveal classified intel at debate? - CNNPolitics.com

And you can bet that our enemies have long known this, too. That's the whole point of the policy of nuclear deterrence, which has kept us safe from nuclear war for 70+ years. Let them know what we can do and how we can do it and how quickly. Nothing wrong with that. It's called giving fair warning. I for one am proud to be a citizen of a nation that gives fair warning. That's the most humane way to go about things. Give others fair warning that if they cross the line, this is what we'll do. I would hate to be part of a country that just nuked others without any warning or chance to back down. That would be evil, in my opinion.
 
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What a crock of shit Hodge, The latest log on Clinton's pyre is the DNC Chairwoman who was a CNN contributor. CNN is in the tank for Clinton but hey... keep drinkin' that kool aid. Link Removed

So far as Trump and his improprieties... I'd say he's par for the course in light of other politicians. Bill Clinton being the most obvious one, Anthony Weiner, just for starters. The latest one to come forward said she's totally messed up cuz he brushed her boob so many years ago? I thought to myself? REALLY Honey? If that was my biggest most troubling issue I'd be blessed.

Boys, will be boys... politicians and billionaires... will it change? Most certainly however this shit distracts (as it is intended to by the way) from the contrast and comparison of a non politician (and yeah non polished) anti establishment candidate and the crooks, ladders, and liars of a career politician. Take your pick. I've had my fill of crooks and ladders.

A fish, people, rots from the head down... so I'll be voting for the outsider.
 
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I really wish the candidates were being judged based on their own merit, their own accomplishments, and not because "the other candidate is bad" or "the other candidate is supposedly rigging the election." This is the most negative campaign. Both the candidates are being judged based on the negative qualities of the other. That's not how this should work. There's too much damned white noise in this election and it pisses me off.

And with all due respect @The Albatross "Boys will be boys" seems like a really sickening defense in this situation. That's the same thing I was told when I was sexually assaulted, and another time later when I was physically abused. In fact, I think every abuse I got in my life has largely been dismissed with that same excuse: "Oh well, boys will be boys." We should really set the bar a bit higher for a presidential candidate. If you don't believe the allegations are true, that's one thing, but dismissing misogynism as "boys will be boys" is really harmful, imho.

I really just wish there was less anger in this campaign. Sure, I don't support Trump, but I have nothing against his supporters and I support their right to vote for him if they really think he will be the best leader.

On another note, as for all these accusations that the media is colluding with Clinton against Trump, I work for one of the biggest publications in the U.S. and our coverage of the election has been very heavy. But the only directive I ever got from the editors was to cover as much election news as possible -- about both candidates. We have reporters who are open about supporting Clinton, and they generally write negative pieces about Trump. But we also have reporters who support Trump, and they write openly negative articles about Clinton. Not because they are told to do so, but because they have their own minds and have drawn their own conclusions. The only thing I see happening is the editors allowing reporters to make their own personal opinions known, but there's no spin in favor of either candidate. If more journalists happen to be against Trump, that doesn't mean they were ordered to be against him or write negative things about him. It just means they don't like him.

I spent nearly a decade in Russia, where media collusion is VERY VERY real and it gets people killed. Where editors give out directives to write a certain story a certain way because "you know who" asked us to. Where stories get censored all the time because "you know who" said so. Where people's houses have been burned down because they dared to write critical stories about a certain "you know who." And oddly, any journalist there who dares to go against "you know who" is immediately villified, portrayed as part of a CIA conspiracy and a member of the fifth column, accused of writing critical coverage because they were paid to do so by mysterious forces. And when this happens, that journalist is more often than not brutally beaten in the street by thugs, or, in the worst case scenario, killed. So please spare me the bullshit about all journalists being in on some conspiracy against Trump. It wreaks of Kremlin propaganda, and by spreading these conspiracy theories, Trump is behaving like Putin and Kadyrov.

That said, I'm sure there are some journalists who write negative coverage about Trump for the wrong reasons, but that doesn't mean the entire system is rigged. You want to see collusion and media hit pieces? You want to see rigging? Go to Russia.

It's really f*cked up when any criticism of the guy is dismissed as part of a larger conspiracy. As if it's just impossible for someone to simply not support him. And it terrifies me, because I've seen how that type of thinking ends, and it doesn't end well. In fact I've seen them washing up the blood and brains from a victim of that type of thinking. In Moscow. We are not in Russia, people. We should not be stooping so goddamn low.
 
There is a whole lot more at stake in this election than either candidates sexual proclivities or transgressions period.

Media bias, pundit "contributors" with Clinton connections, are just another arm of the DNC tactics. Spare you? Spare me.
 
Meanwhile more serious issues get less air time and are suppressed:

Obama had a vested interest in the outcome of Hil's email scandal because he also had his own "personal email account" and lied about his being unaware because he was found to be communicating with her on her private server under a false/different name. Whatever fairly investigated repercussions may have resulted for Hillary would have opened him up to scrutiny as well. BOMBSHELL: White House Tries to CLEAN UP Obama’s MESS

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For @Casey_03 and I would be glad to continue the discussion on another thread, Just one example of many I could site that support my take on "journalist/media" and this one is just a most recent one: Dead Link Removed
 
@The Albatross I don't disagree with you about the media bias. And CNN in particular is pretty ridiculous -- I've always felt that way. They have a really idiotic way of covering stuff. But I don't think there is any "conspiracy" by the media that has editors giving out marching orders to journalists. Not by a long shot. My point is that the rhetoric about all journalists being part of some massive conspiracy to rig the election is dangerous. That's what I take issue with, not criticism of media bias in general.

There is also one other point about Trump coverage that I think often gets overlooked -- Trump sells. You know how they say sex and death sell in the media? Trump does too. He isn't as careful as Hillary is about what he says, so you get him saying things that people often find funny and entertaining. The stuff he says is often more hyperbolic, and those are the things that make good headlines, even if they often are insignificant. He's more entertaining than Hillary, it's as simple as that. So often when you see him getting all this coverage with publications lightly mocking him for something he said -- it's really not a conspiracy, that's just how the news works. And at the end of the day, most publications base their coverage on whatever topic is getting the most views by readers -- and that is Trump. Which means the readers often decide how much attention a certain subject gets, not the editors. That's how it's always worked in the multiple publications I've been at.

Sure, there is media bias in some places, I'm not disputing that. But I don't buy into the idea that all journalists are part of a well-coordinated conspiracy to smear Trump.
 
"all" was not written by me, it is interesting and telling to me that you would infer it. Yes, however there is a reasonably well documented trail that would suggest there is a coordinated effort without conflating it to conspiracy that Main Stream is in the tank.

Journalistic integrity has tanked, if you haven't seen the stats of public perception you should really check them out.
 
@The Albatross The only part of my rant directed at you above was the "boys will be boys" comment. I wasn't directing the stuff about the media at you, and nowhere did I infer that you wrote anything about "all" journalists. That's why I said "all these accusations." I wasn't referring to yours specifically.
 
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