Consumed By Sadistic Fantasies Regarding Cops

[Friday]

Final statement as this is a useless thread now to me.

Someday, I hope that changes.

 

[Ed Norton]

I hope it all changes, Friday. Useless in the sense that the original crisis is over and I know what to do about the thoughts. Yes, some wonderful cops too. I remember an arson investigator here...liked him...

The system has to change before I do and I'm tired of how they deny that they have a problem.

Also, on a few occasions I've knowingly chatted with cops here. I always know who they are just play dumb. My biggest fear is them asking me about my trauma. I know that they may defend their brothers and the system. I can't expect honesty. I do have a secret wish to be told by one, honestly, that there's a problem. I won't invite that discussion. I won't attack them. I won't hold my breath.

 

[Ed Norton]

This is super pedantic but it's ColOmbia and ColOmbians. Columbia is a university.

Couldn't resist, sorry

 

[Ronin]

I do have a secret wish to be told by one, honestly, that there's a problem.

If a one person tells you there is a problem, that still doesn't change your view of others, unless you want it to change as a whole, though?

I mean, changing systems, not easily doable. Changing own thoughts regarding them or finding safer ways to fit that system? Something that's doable.

(But cough, coming from experience of quite a couple pretty safe & amazing anonymous LEOs out there. Whenever I get paranoid? I think of them, as of recent things I can remember and use. The more far away history is a bit full of 'wish I had known you better, man'.)

 

[Anarchy]

There was an interesting and very contorted explanation given in the Knapp report for the difficulty cops, priests etc have in admitting that there is a systemic problem in their institutions.

and why what we get instead are suggestions about "a few isolated bad apples"

It runs along the lines that if the members of the institution believe that the institution serves an important purpose, and they believe that continuing public support (or acquiescence) is essential to the institution continuing to fulfil that purpose.

Then they will try to preserve the public image of the institution by strenuously denying and covering up any systemic problem (eg corrupt and murderous cops, kiddy fiddling rings amongst priests)

and any evidence of that systemic problem is then blamed on the actions of "a few bad apples"

 

[Ronin]

Yeah but same could be said about any profession under the sun.

It's not just cops and priests.

 

[Anarchy]

Yeah but same could be said about any profession under the sun. It's not just cops and priests.

yeah, absolutely
That was the interpretation given by the Knapp report into corruption in the NYPD in the early 1970s, there findings were of a sizeable majority of officers actively seeking corrupt payments.

Knapp steered well clear of any sort of deeper institutional analysis.

a very readable institutional analysis is de Molinari, from 1849
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More modern analyses are even more scathing, as they can draw on later concepts such as marginal theories of value, Mises' socialist calculation problem, Hayek's "Knowledge problem" and Rothbard's work on monopoly theory.

 

[Ed Norton]

Yep, it's not just a few bad apples it's more like a sanctuary for psychos, with a few gems.

Those horrible plumbers conspiring to use PVC over cast iron or who use PEX instead of sweated copper and the worst abomination CSST instead of blackpipe. What other professions!?

For my purposes, if they really want finite empathy from me when they get PTSD...Just one suffices otherwise, my assumption is that there's an equal chance it was caused by the 'brothers' and 'sisters'

 

[Ed Norton]

'epilogue'

Just to summarize the amount of personal progress that I've made since the introduction of the thread, in terms of coping with fear and avoidance as well as personal predjudice and anger.

A couple of weeks back it was quite cold and I was out at night walking to a store frequented by cops. I was initially relieved that I didn't see any present in the parking lot. The relief quickly turned to fear and avoidant urges when a police jeep turned into the parking lot. I immediately stopped and walked across the street to procede to the other store a few blocks away. I then paused and contemplated my worst fear of encountering the original cops of my trauma. I couldn't discern who was in that jeep. I decided, partly due to the cold, to go to the first store.

As I approached they got out of the jeep and I saw that it wasn't the same cops. They were ahead of me but instead of walking in first they held the door and said "go ahead". I was nervous because I didn't like them behind me but I walked in and said "thank you" I then proceded to make my coffee. One of them engaged me in a dialogue about the weather and I replied, sarcastically, since we've been enjoying a long period of mild weather in the NY metro area "that if this winter is the result of global warming then I really like global warming" They laughed; I then went to pay for my coffee and as I exited said "goodnight" they replied "goodnight".