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Cutting Ties With Toxic Family

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After the beginning of my abuse my father apologized, then it happened again less than half a year later, he told me it should never have happened, then again the next week, he asked for my forgiveness, I just wanted it to stop so I gave it. Then things got worse and I don't remember most of it, but from what I do remember it's horrific by anyone's stretch of the imagination. In an argument he twisted words and made me think that my Mum agreed that I had no feelings and if I did they didn't matter, backing up that she would never believe me. He confessed a small amount of it to his mother but mostly denied it saying that it never happened, but if it did he was prescribed some medication around that time that really messed with his head.

My grandmother didn't think it was a big deal and because he was/is mentally unstable, it didn't matter what happened to me as long as he didn't any worse. That I should just "get over it" or "forget it ever happened" because I was selfish. She didn't think anyone else should know and covered for him far more than she should have and as a result put more people at risk of his behavior. I was obligated to be a good daughter for him and her despite him completely and utterly ruining my life. Each time I tried getting away from them it failed and she manipulated me when I was at my worst constantly trying to remedy the situation to his advantage.

In august last year, my sisters, my mother and myself cut ties with not only him but his entire extended family as they all think if he's not necessarily perfect he's done nothing really wrong. The problem is the extended family is huge. The all live on my doorstep and despite the fact that none of them have got in contact with us (we warned that it would bring restraining orders if they didn't leave us be), I can't leave the house alone because I nearly always bump into someone coincidentally. The worst part is I know his mother will have covered it all up and I'll be the one in the wrong.

I'm learning to drive, beginning therapy and saving up to move away, my Mum also wants to move away but her job and life is here so it's difficult. I feel trapped at home but at least I feel safe at home. It's the best decision I ever made - I changed my name to get rid of his surname too. Despite them all being just outside my door, it's an amazing release. Being completely honest occasionally I feel guilty for no longer looking after my grandmother and/or I think it would be easier not to avoid them and I start trying to justify not only my grandmother's behavior but my father's as well. I keep hearing that an important part of Therapy is to forgive your abusers, but I can't. I can only say (I feel guilty for this as well) that I am relieved one of my abusers commit suicide (I feel sorry for him because he was the least bad), last I heard the worst of them had his second bout of cancer - I think it wasn't incurable though (I hope and pretend it wasn't) but last my Dad was seen, he was as happy as Larry continuing life and no longer suicidal (I know it's wrong, but I wish). Nonetheless being away from them all as much as I am is a relief and one day I will move away and I will be able to lead a much more normal life then.

Edited to add: I can't believe I shared all that, it was mostly because I was trying to justify that it was ok I still don't see him/them. I still feel so wrong and carry so much guilt. I will however never continue contact with them. I hope you find your freedom.

AJ
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I learned long ago that my family was the source of everything confusing in my life and cut them out completely almost a decade ago. It was the most liberating, positive thing I've ever done for myself!

I am sure there are a lot of loving, supporting families out there, but there are many, and mine was one, that relied solely on obligation to solidify relationships. Guilt and gossip were their only tools, and I put my foot down that I would tolerate neither (very large family). When they refused to respect my boundaries, I refused to have anything to do with them.

Families can be the most manipulative of all, thinking that they can say or do whatever, and you can't leave. Well, you most certainly can leave ANYONE that is toxic in your life.

I've often said that Tradition sits at the corner of Guilt and Obligation, and I hate that neighborhood.

Do what is best for you. Don't think about what others might say or feel. Only you matter in this one.
 
I keep hearing that an important part of Therapy is to forgive your abusers, but I can't.
Might I interject here, that this particular misinformation has caused more retraumatization of people than the original abuse.

It is not up to you to forgive them. It is up to God. If and when (if ever) that person really does repent, they will do everything in their power to earn your forgiveness. They will demonstrate how horrible they feel. Until then, keep yourself safe, and stay away from those people. The next time your therapist or anyone else tells you to forgive them, send them to the bible, Matthew 18:6 and have them read what Jesus said about anyone who abuses little children. Then tell them to go instruct the abuser on how to ask for forgiveness and leave you alone.

Just my .02
 
Sweatpants, the issue with the protection order has a long and ugly and involved history, as all toxic family histories are. I honestly don't know how to do this in less than 100 pages and still give a complete picture, but let me try. Preempting the possibility that it might be too long for one post, I've decided to do it in chapters :rolleyes:

My mother, who never liked girls very much, had a miscarriage before I was two - she lost twin boys, and must have been devastated. Apparently she was quite ill, and during that time, my 11 yo sister (Louise) and 13 yo brother (Ray) (who were like siamese twins, and still are) became my primary care givers. Somehow I never found my way back to my mother. Louise, is a sick f*ck, has always been, will always be. Ray has always been her lapdog and henchman. He is as spineless as she is harsh. They are both equally cruel. At the time of my birth Louise and Ray already showed clear signs of having lived in a highly dysfunctional family (I had two more siblings - who were very withdrawn).

Skip my childhood. At one point (about 15 years ago) I ended all contact with Louise. When my father was dying, in 2007, he asked me if I could help Louise, who was struggling financially, socially, oh hell, in all areas. Now this is so typical of enmeshed families: I made an emotional decision based on the fact that my father was dying - ignoring our history and his violence, and opting for sentimentality. Louise and I made peace. Mistake 1.

A friend of mine, Karen, and I bought property, to renovate and resell, in the city where Louise lived. Louise was appointed project manager of the upgrade. Big mistake. What the hell was I thinking? But these matters are never cut and dried. I see now how Karen as my 'primary care giver' still had an emotional hold over me, how I still wanted her approval, how I wanted to 'help', how I wanted to play happy families.

During that time my daughter, who was 7 months, had respiratory problems. The pediatrician said the thought it was allergy based. My daughter and I visited Louise to take care of legal business regarding the property, and my daughter's health improved drastically. Back in my hometown the pediatrician said it confirmed his theory about her respiratory problems, and I decided to take the plunge and move across country for two reasons: 1) my daughter's health, and 2) to be involved in the upgrade of the property - especially as I was putting ALL my money into a project to help my sister. I was still in my hometown and it was difficult to arrange accommodation from so many miles away. At that point Louise could not pay her rent, and I suggested that we share a house for a period of three months until I could find a suitable place and she was financially in a better place (she was given a salary while doing the upgrade and would receive a percentage of the profits). Sharing a house for 3 months? What the hell was I thinking???? Big mistake.

to be continued
 
The fear of judgement for cutting ties is especially heavy because the worry is that I'll be seen as a bad person.

Hence my point and my previous statement on being sick and tired of living my life with fear of judgement. :)

It has to come down to personal choices in the end.

I cut ties with mine after years of fearing being judged by others. Those others had no idea really and was in no way going to help in the long run, so in the end I gave up worrying about those who judge and start worrying about myself and how I can get in a better place.

I can understand your worry totally :) but who are they to judge you? why should you fear their judgement? are they any help to you now? are they supporting you without bias?

Remember you are not the bad person or never will be if you are doing what is right for you. Others would say you would be a martyr to stay and put up with it.

Others, like me, will say those who judge need to make sure they are not living in glass houses.

It was the best thing I did when I disowned members of my family I chose were not going to be in my life any longer.

Best wishes
Saffy :)
 
Chapter 2:

Louise started raging on the first day together. Could someone tell me how I had 'forgotten' about her rages? She raged continually, somehow managed to not 'allow' me to be involved with the renovation in any way, including financial decisions. It's difficult to explain how she manages this kind of dominance and how I always let her. Anyway, the rages and insanity escalated, until a big one in October 2007 when she raged so badly that my daughter and I, both in our pajamas, drove around for 2 hours. When I got back home I told her that I was not prepared to put up with her rages, that I would take over the renovation, that I would me moving out.

I was an adult, right? I could make my own decisions,right? I could choose not to be affected by her and her insanity, right? Wrong.

Here's an interesting article: The emotional terrorist, by Erin Pizzey - Dead Link Removed

When I read this the first time I nearly cried with relief - it was the first thing ever that explained Louise's brand of insanity, which is something I have NEVER been able to explain to anyone.

To be continued...
 
If you find you're constantly having to explain to them
A sure sign of being controlled, if not abused. If someone 'doesn't understand' he/she often pretends not to while you pull your guts out trying to get them to understand something very simple. If someone doesn't understand why you are hurt, there is zero point in trying to explain to them. A psychologist gave me the best, and shortest therapy ever with one simple directive: 'NEVER explain yourself.'
 
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