livergirl70
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Mmm sounds interesting, i'll google that one
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Oh YES! Very insightful Reclusive!! As a matter of fact, that was exactly what I was trying to describe! See, having ptsd for such a long time, day in and day out, you loose yourself in it, and never really know how much of yourself is yours, and what is attributive to the disorder! I was trying to figure out exactly what I wanted to say, but you've beaten me to the punch! So, how goes it for you Reclusive in that respect? I mean finding the person, and discriminating it from the disorder? Any tips? I figure if I just do what I'm doing, (doing more things I like, understanding my emotions which is HUGE! Basically anything that will let the "personal" aspect of my personality come out) then i'll hit the outline of my personality, and get right to the center of me.I totally understand what you're talking about. I kinda went through the same thing at the beginning of high school and got it all figured out and now... I know I'm not that person, but I'm not sure who I am. Right now I'm exploring the boundaries of my PTSD - how much of the perceived me is really the disorder. Once I can figure out where the PTSD stops, I can start to see where I begin. That might not make any sense to anyone but me, but there you have it.
The past is past, alright, but it did shape me.
The ego is indeed contingent on consciousness, but the reverse is false; the ego is a construct of the amalgam of experiences that we gain from our earliest times of conscious recollection; that's what the ego is, a framework of ideas, beliefs, thoughts, and feelings, and experiences that becomes cohesive and welds together, to form the so-called, "personality" and is designed to remain "in tact" in most situations....but the ego, can be broken, and undergo the process of "disintegration" that can be most profoundly positive for the possessor of the ego in question....think about it, breaking a habit can be done, and this is apart of the ego; ego's process of uncoupling the value behind the behavior that keeps it intact, can be magnified on a GLOBAL level (which now considers the WHOLE psychological infrastructure of the ego) and is repeated until the "Dark Night" is introduced....this made me "think/feel" suicidal....my ego, was breaking because it was time to undo itself.....it frightened me, (and still kinda does) frighten me to think that I'll be without that old P.O.V. but I'd GLADLY give it up, if it meant becoming the guy I both WANT AND NEED to be.Ego and consciousness are emergent and contingent
Even if you take 'self' to mean your vantage point and feeling of continuity there's no 'true' there.
I know a feeling of 'happy self' and wise thoughts, but they are no more true than any other self, feeling or thought.
Oh YES! Very insightful Reclusive!! As a matter of fact, that was exactly what I was trying to describe! See, having ptsd for such a long time, day in and day out, you loose yourself in it, and never really know how much of yourself is yours, and what is attributive to the disorder! I was trying to figure out exactly what I wanted to say, but you've beaten me to the punch! So, how goes it for you Reclusive in that respect? I mean finding the person, and discriminating it from the disorder? Any tips? I figure if I just do what I'm doing, (doing more things I like, understanding my emotions which is HUGE! Basically anything that will let the "personal" aspect of my personality come out) then i'll hit the outline of my personality, and get right to the center of me.
Thank you. I see now that you don't use the term 'ego' as defined by Buddhism or in the sense of any other Philosophy that I'm familiar with.Ok, freak this is looooooong; I hope it helps, (it's my P.O.V. and I hope it helps because I'm going through this too) otherwise we can keep talking through this!! :)
Yeah, and that's why I thought people without religious or 'spiritual' dependency wouldn't suffer from The Dark Night. When you're self-reliant, you don't have expectations that the universe could fail to meet.even spiritual men/women of great faith were introduced to a struggle for their soul, and felt forsaken by "God" and felt faithless, and broken because of it