Depression Vs Suicidal Ideation Vs Ptsd

[GWhizz]

Yes they sure do @anthony - thanks for the blog. As a nurse I'm not advocating that people dump the meds. But after the bones of almost a year on lustral and feeling only more suicidal as they upped and upped my dosage, I just spent the past month self-weaning. And hey, I was moody coming down off them - who wouldn't be when you're brain is used to saving an excessive amount of happy hormone serotonin?! But I now feel like my old self again. At least I don't have such a blunted affect. It's against advice of my team but they don't seem to have any answer besides meds and a 'dealing with depression' group therapy programme which I'm not going to when I can barely talk to a T one on one. It's a crappy reality but it seems the only way to get anywhere is to DIY

 

[ghotiff]

I see an additional reason why them focusing on depression would be invalidating....it sends the message that they want you to "appear" better, not " be" better. Given a lot of our childhoods were about pretending things were fine (when they weren't) it hurts to be encouraged to do this again.

 

[ghotiff]

It's a crappy reality but it seems the only way to get anywhere is to DIY

When I read this it pulled on my heart stings with the "alone again" feeling.

 

[Anarchy]

Hi @GWhizz

I just tried to send you a pm, but your inbox is full
:hug:

 

[Intrepid]

I'm sick of them telling me 'you're just a bit depressed', because that in itself is all the more invalidating and depressing - no pun intended!

A few weeks ago I discovered this technical term: comorbidity. It means that one diagnosis can have symptoms that are included in other diagnosis. So, depression is listed as a symptom in a lot of diagnosis.

My therapist often asks me about other possible problems, because she wants to cover all of the bases. I stick to my guns, though. My problem is the trauma. After years of dealing with this, no one can now shake me. In fact, now I'm biased toward believing that depression is often grounded in PTSD.

 

[Anarchy]

In fact, now I'm biased toward believing that depression is often grounded in PTSD.

Depression comes complete with highly elevated stress hormone levels and chronic insomnia, and repetitive thought patterns. I think there is a very good chance that it is yet another of the manifestations of post traumatic stress responses.

Unfortunately one of the central assumptions in what is taught as "the scientific method" is "reductionism"; look ever closer and focus on smaller and smaller areas to find clear data and causes - humans are bio-psycho-social beings with lifetime histories and beliefs. by looking at the point of one pine needle, reductionism misses both the trees and the forest.