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General Do Any Of My Fellow Supporters Isolate?

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Promicarius, you bring up a good point about why I stayed here that long. I have two girls, 3 and 7. They love their Dad. Its a decision that doesn't just affect me its them too. Thats why I kept hanging on and trying. We don't have the kind of social safety net here in the USA that they have in other parts of the developed world, so I would have to get a job and figure out how to pay for daycare, and honestly, I'm a former art teacher who paints murals with at risk youth part time. Upstate NY is economically depressed. They arent hiring new art teachers. I'm not likely to get anything that does much more then pay for the daycare.

My kids now, are middle class. The 3 year old has sensory processing disorder and goes to a special preschool. The 7 year old has violin and dance lessons. The poverty of me being a single parent would end all that for them. I had thought I would continue to live here until the youngest goes to kindergarten, so at least I could work while they are at school. Maybe thats a flawed train of of thought?
 
Sorry for the double post. I just keep thinking of more that I want to respond to. My therapist thinks I have already processed the abuse, I think. He also is cognitive behavioral so he sees what I am doing to handle the current situation as most important. I should bring up that thing about me feeling I don't deserve better, I feel like there is some core truth in that. I am always putting the needs of other people before my own. I don't really know why. My sufferer for example, same thing. Lack of intimacy, putting his needs before my own.
I have gotten so busy raising 2 little kids, I might have no idea what my needs even are :) I guess I'd like meaningful sex, connection, and someone to sleep with every night. That would be a place to start anyway.
 
Promicarius, you bring up a good point about why I stayed here that long. I have two girls, 3 and 7. They love their Dad. Its a decision that doesn't just affect me its them too.

I suspected something along those lines, but didn't want to pry. That doesn't seem like a flawed train of thought, at all. It seems like a loving mother attempting to place her children's needs above her own, to me, and I not only understand, but commend you for it.


My therapist thinks I have already processed the abuse, I think. He also is cognitive behavioral so he sees what I am doing to handle the current situation as most important.

In my opinion, an therapist who is exclusively "Cognitive Behaviorist" isn't the best person to evaluate a trauma history. As you so rightly put it, his orientation is to practical functioning, in the here and now. I wouldn't say that that orientation is mutually exclusive to a trauma oriented perspective, entirely--but just as with M.D.s, there are specialists within each discipline, and you don't want an orthopedist doing your heart surgery, however great an orthopedist he/she may be.

CBT focused/trained therapists just don't really have the background to put trauma in perspective and address it...and you know what they say...when all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a nail.

But there are many therapists who do both--have backgrounds in both trauma as well as CBT.

I'm not a licensed healthcare professional in any capacity, though, so these are just my personal opinions. But I am a little surprised that he wouldn't have recommended you see a trauma specialist, when you brought up the issue of sexual abuse--when a G.P. runs into something outside his bailiwick, it's part of protocol to call in a specialist, after all.

But there's a lot to be said re having already established a trusting alliance with your therapist, I realize--especially as someone with trust issues (believe me, I speak from experience. I'm still not sure I really have any functioning conception of trust. My father was a foreign intelligence operative--go figure. Makes therapy a challenge). And there's a lot to be said for just having that as a regular outlet. So I'd understand any reluctance to just "drop them and switch". But maybe a consultation with a trauma specialist might be worthwhile.

I should bring up that thing about me feeling I don't deserve better, I feel like there is some core truth in that. I am always putting the needs of other people before my own. I don't really know why.

This sounds like the standard stuff of co-dependency...common to those who've experienced childhood neglect/rejection/abandonment. It's generally seen in terms of an unconscious need to establish the sense of adequacy which should have been bestowed upon us by our parents, but which was instead either absent in their regard for us, or actively denied us----by being effective at helping others--thereby proving we're "actually good, after all--as well as competent" (speaking from experience, again).

I hope you will bring it up with your therapist. There are support groups for co-dependency, as well.

I have gotten so busy raising 2 little kids, I might have no idea what my needs even are :)
I think that just means you're a great mom. :). But have you heard of the "sharpening the saw" metaphor? Basically, we can't just keep sawing away constantly...or eventually the saw gets dull, and we're not even accomplishing anything anymore. Part of being an effective "sawer", in the long run, is stopping often enough to sharpen the saw.

So taking time for yourself, practicing self-care, is part of caring for your kids: You can't really be as effective with/for them if you don't take care of yourself, too.

Thanks for your posts, and be well.
 
Promicarius- A foreign intelligence operative, huh? That's a childhood. My sufferer's father was a Cheif detective in a major city. Sounds like you and he could have some interesting and unique conversations. Expert mindf@#$ers. Winter's was also a deacon in the local babtist church. It was a reign of terror at home. I have no idea what sort of horrors you grew up with. I don't see you really posting much about yourself other then your diagnoses. I have to confess to being curious about you. I could guess a few things- being a witch and all...

You are in your 40's. Big. You are more respected by the people around you then you think. You give a surface impression of fitting in very well. You might be a technical writer of some kind...You lead some sort of double life.
 
I went to therapy in HS. And college. And then not until I was in my late 20's because I was having problems concentrating at work. I was diagnosed with ADHD. My youngest daughter has sensory processing disorder and I think I really have that, not ADHD. Most of my therapists were jungian. The last 2 were CBT's. They haven't particularly dealt with my childhood abuse by that cop. My sufferer has brought a lot of that stuff back to me lately though, because of his abusive cop father. I have occasional fantasies of just beating the crap out of that man, which I suspect are at the core, self protective.

I grew up bisexual in the 80's before it was cool. I was never exactly gay bashed, but I was ostracised alot.

I saw this T I am with now 6 years ago for post partum depression. with my first daughter. Things got better and then the marital problems and I just went back to him now. I'm on an antidepressant- cymbalta. and I can be on adderall but never fill the prescription. I drink a little too much lately. (about 3 drinks a day.)
 
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I've posted elsewhere that I'm 42 and 6'4". The rest is eerily accurate, however, and I've never led anything other than a double life...in more respects than the average person would likely be able to imagine. That's what I was conditioned for, after all.

I don't post much about myself, at least as of yet. I should apologize for that, as I do feel as though I'm participating less than fully in the forum, through a lack of full disclosure.

But I'm only beginning to open the door to consider typical, human boundaries and the prospect of becoming vulnerable. To say it's difficult would be an understatement. When from earliest recollection you've been conditioned to think in terms of any personal disclosure as an immediate risk to your life...it runs bone deep. But that's not to say it's an excuse to remain stuck there. It's just a matter of not only having no conception, but professional conditioning running contrary. While I'm not in intelligence, it was intended that I was to follow in my father's footsteps, so I wasn't "raised" so much as professionally conditioned.

Even relating this much, now, leaves me with an overwhelming sense of impending doom, and self-disgust. "We don't talk about ourselves", after all.

Thanks for your kindness, and interest. I'm only beginning to make a beginning, just now. Hopefully the way to disclosure, the forms it can take, will become clearer as I continue to move in that direction.


Be well
 
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The first rule of Fight Club is don't talk about Fight Club.

The 6'4" I think I read somewhere, the 42 thing I didn't. I forgot to mention sometimes I just know things about people and this scares them. Reading between the lines, I guess- what you tell me will make some difference to what I know, and some- I just know. I have always been like this and it's harmless, because Wiccans who follow the rede do their best not to hurt people. I probably shouldn't be drawing you out more then you are comfortable with, but you are here anonymously. I don't think this can get back to the physical you. I feel like this would be a good arena for you to try and trust people because of that. I am wondering why you have a dislike for the rural enviornment and are still in the wilds of Texas? Work, probably. You don't like your work, but noone knows that?

Winter and I have this in common with you too. As teenagers we were both trained to be killers thanks to the cops in our lives. We have worked with just about every type of gun. I have some background in martial arts, and am an EMT and the cop, who was a hobby pilot, taught me how to fly a plane etc. Lost interest in all that stuff (except for the martial arts) because of the abuse. Just went back to being a volunteer EMT with the local ambulance about 2 years ago. I have a knack for removing people from their pain, which I feel like I should share.
 
Does being by yourself all the time tempt anyone else to drink too much and smoke too much weed or is that just me?
 
I think that may mean that your being alone is nearer the "loneliness" end of the spectrum than the "appreciating solitude" end. And there's a big difference between using anything to enhance things--creativity, sociability, etc.--and using them to "drown things out". I guess only the individual can decide their motivation--after a good long honest look. But the fact that you post the question here may be a statement in itself. Does that mean you're concerned about it, yourself? Because if you're concerned about it, you'd probably know best...

Be well
 
I have depression and anxiety, and yes, I isolate myself. Most of the time I really only see people at my children's school. Occasionally a couple of friends, but not that often... I guess I feel a bit "on the outside, looking in".
 
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