Do People Sense you are 'Spiritual' Somehow?

[linasmom]

Cecilia -

I'm definitely biased in my opinion of "religious" therapy - (I'm an atheist) but I concur - find a new therapist - seriously.

I found her comments to you extremely misguided and minimizes your disorder.

Best,
Rachel

 

[linasmom]

I just want to say one more thing -

I generally try to stay away from religious talk, my opinions are very strong when it comes religion and spirituality. The problem with it all, for me personally, is that spirituality and religion base their principles on someone else's ideals. Whether or not a person believes in those ideals isn't really my problem, for me, the problem arises when said person believes without doing any self-actualizing.

I've found, after many many years of excruciating self-analysis, that I was able to come up with my own set of ideals by looking within myself daily. By asking myself questions about how I want to be treated and how that extends to all human-kind. Some of those ideals may fall in the line with Buddhist principles or Christian beliefs, but to subscribe to a particular belief set is restricting, for me. I don't want to be anymore of a walking contradiction than I already am. If I can't subscribe to something fully, then why subscribe at all? Why not just create your own belief set by putting in the time with yourself?

My opinion is that humanity has escaped us all because we choose to escape ourselves.

Of course, this is my humble opinion.

Best,
Rachel

 

[TLight]

Celcelia,

Get away from that therapist! My gosh.......I'd leave blaming myself too!!!! She is totally injuring you again. It's not your fault.

Rachael,
You are so right. Being aligned with the higher power, takes years of self examination. I've encountered a lot of religious people who don't even seem to have he capacity to look at their own thoughts and behaviors.........my opinion, they are sick!
It's so amazing to me, how people just refuse to look at themselves and own up to their own sh*t. Instead, they dump it all over others........injuring people, then call themselves followers of God or something. Makes me puke.

That's why I'm VERY cautious around 'religous' people or people who claim to be 'spiritual'. I've found most of them to just be avoiding their own crap.

Christ said, "pray in your closet." Humility is one indication of a true person in touch with spirituality. That's why I pretty much keep my lips sealed about my studies and meditation and the 'experiences' I've had. Being humble and out of my ego, is, I believe, very important..........I'm very wary of those who aren't.
I've been around a couple of 'healers' who did more damage then good when I finally could discern who they really were. Scary.

 

[Cecilia]

TLight:

People who try to "save my soul" freak me out and I will not give them the time of day. I find them to be very twisted and manipulative.

Healthy people seek counseling, the truly unhealthy ones are those who refuse or do not recognize the need.

Of course that is just my opinion.

 

[shadowmedic]

i guess everyone has a different perspective of spirituality. as a healthcare worker, i see someone being spiritual when they have come to terms with themselves and their god.

 

[Seeking_Nirvana]

I agree with shadowmedic.

Spirituality can be different than religion but have some of it's characteristics because when we grow spiritually based on doing good for ourselves and others, we find our middle ground (balance) and make ourselves whole. Once we are one with ourselves (lose our egos) we find more peace within.

It's hard to grow spiritually when we are without any peace.

Religion is based on cultural conditioning to be good and do good. However, you can do these things without being religious, thus spirituality.

I see people and if they have a good aura and I feel they are spiritual people I gravitate toward them (not on purpose). I work for a woman who is this way. In her presence I feel good, and it disseminates off of her and I feel it gravitates toward me.

Peace
Tammy

 

[2quilt]

I just had 2 appointments with a psychiatrist for med management and not only did he refuse to do med management, he tried to get me to become a christian. I told him that I am atheist and he then spent the whole hour trying to convince me how sorry i will be when i die, because i will have no heaven. On and on even though I got angry and told him that I was never going to believe in superstition. I am writing a formal complaint against him for unethical behavior and failing to do med mangmt. I did not pay him to convert me or give me religious intervention to save my soul.

Not only would I advise you to stop seeing that therapist, I would write a complaint against her or him to your insurance, the state board of medical examiners, and any psych professional groups in your state that the therapist may belong to.

 

[linasmom]

2Quilt, you go!!!! That is totally inappropriate behavior by your doctor. You're much nicer than I am because I would have gotten up and left far before my hour was up. How dare they??!!!!!!! To me, that just shows a huge amount of disrespect on so many levels. Maybe he should warn his patients beforehand by posting a sign that states "the church of dr.whomever".

OOOO that just riles me up!!! :mad:

 

[Cecilia]

YEARS ago a therapist spent the whole counseling session reprimanding me because my skirt was too short. It was by no means a mini-skirt and so what if it was? The worst part was it happened in group therapy and I was very embarrassed and started to cry. She still did not stop. I left the group.

There are a lot of whacko therapists out there and I seem to find them all. So far the only person I have really been able to confide in is a spiritual director. I never "talk" to him about any incident but when I get really stressed out I will email him. He has a Masters in counseling and he is never judgmental, always kind. Sometimes he reponds with good advice, but most often he just sends me his blessings. I tell him bits and pieces and he never reprimands me or pressures me to tell more. When I see him in person he never brings it up and he treats me like a close friend. I have grown to love him.

But when I go to a therapist I do not expect spiritual and God-talk anymore than I expect my spiritual director to write me a prescription.

By the way, he has also said my therapist's counsel was inappropriate and that I should seek out a different therapist.

 

[2quilt]

TLight said: 'Christ said, "pray in your closet."'

Warning! I am being a smartass here: I didn't know that they had closets back in his time...

...don't mind me, I am in a silly mood and I don't mean to be offensive.

 

[Cecilia]

Seriously.....I am scared to sit in a closet!!