Does Anyone Have A High Iq

[Ed Norton]

I don't think that this guy ever had his IQ measured, alas Von Karman would be rejected from Mensa
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_von_Kármán

 

[Ronin]

Well there's that, and thinking Mensa's a bunch of snobs & it's more useful to do things instead of clubbing together in that, but maybe that's just my bias. :D:cautious:

 

[Chava]

I joined Mensa for one day and it immediately felt like a way to further f*ck up my life. :):eek: So I quit immediately. Hanging out online with a bunch of cognitive snobs? I don't even relate. I try to find connections in my local community...artists, musicians, creative weirdos. It's still very hard for me, but that's more important. I can't create more separation or me-them whatever (genius people, non-genius). f*ck that.

I also think simply having a high IQ and knowing it is a little useless. It creates potential separation where I can't tolerate feeling any more alien and unbelonging in the universe. I DO however like the theory of over-excitabilities (Dabrowsky). It's a way of talking about being a little more gifted in certain areas, but also really connected to our nervous system. I seem to take in a lot of information (I'm actually an absolute INFORMATION HOARDER!) because the sensing and perceiving parts of me don't seem to shut down. That's where I see some of my sensitivities possibly connected to early trauma but I'd be the last to say there is a silver lining here. :cautious:

 

[Ronin]

Dangit where's that 'many likes' button, need it for @Chava's post. ;)

 

[WillyKat]

LOL @Chava. I had a manager once that proudly displayed his Mensa membership on his car license plate rack. Puke.

This guy was the biggest d**k ever. I'll never forget the day he completely lost it. On Friday's, his Admin was supposed to bring donuts for the group. One Friday, she forgot. Now most people would just roll with this, not throw a fit. He chose to throw a fit. See, he needed his sugar high or else he might melt or something, so in front of maybe 30 people, he screamed at her about the f**king donuts. Imagine a 6 ft. guy screaming at a 90 lb., 22 year old about his sugar fix.

It was disgusting.

 

[Ed Norton]

Well, I have met just a few people from Mensa, not too bad-I guess but I am pretty unbreakable:geek:

 

[Chava]

@WillyKat that's a bizarre one. Likely super challenging fellow to work with.

:cry::depressed::laugh:

 

[Crow]

I was in the 'slow' class until 3rd grade. My brain couldn't figure out words. But I memorized hundreds of poems my dad read to me. Then one day, boom. Everything made sense. I tested across the board at a twelfth grade level on standardized tests that year and was propelled to the gifted program in fourth grade. What a nightmare. In high school I was invited to join mensa. Dad refused. I look at those puzzles now and wonder how I ever understood how to solve them. In junior high I tested 138 but those tests are so biased I put little faith in accuracy.

 

[Weemie]

TBH I feel that IQ tests should only be diagnostic and not definitive, but c'est la vie.

I am biased, because I have cognitive impairments but am nevertheless of average intelligence. A lot of people who claim to have a high IQ could not even tell you how an IQ test is administered. When I was given mine it was only ever with the understanding that it was a diagnostic cognitive assessment, not a "genius screen."

I take anyone who tells me their IQ with a grain of salt. Especially if it is ridiculously above average. There are only a few people throughout history who have had truly stunning IQs. And no-- Karen, who sits across from me and talks shit all day about her boyfriend while loudly slurping a Polar Pop, is not one of them.

The only thing that IQ represents is your ability to take an IQ test. The secret thing about IQ tests is that people like me might have a performance IQ of 80, which is Borderline. I'd never be accepted into Mensa, but I can still write a story that'll make you cry. So what the f*ck does that tell you?

There is also a whole hidden world about IQ tests that a lot of people don't know about. I wrote my final English paper on the evolution of the IQ test through history, and some of that shit is f*cking disgusting. There's a good show on TV now about this shit, it's called The Knick. The second season shows the development of the eugenics movement.

Recognize any of these names? Francis Galton. Lewis Terman. The Genetic Studies of Genius. Charles Warren. Prescott Hall. Howard Knox. The Immigration Restriction League. Ellis Island. H.H. Goddard. A proponent of eugenics, still using the same terminology Galton literally f*cking invented in 1883. You know the only reason the U.S. has the Stanford-Binet is because Goddard brought it over? He translated it because he wanted to use it to keep mentally inferior children out of the school system. Even though Alfred Binet outright stated that he wanted the test to be used diagnostically, not definitively.

The f*cking Pioneer Fund; do you know what that is? Wickliffe Draper, the guy who said that the entire purpose of the Pioneer Fund was to prove the intellectual inferiority of "negroes"? The Pioneer Fund who actively used the Nazi propaganda film Erbkrank to highlight their ideology?

Shit, son. There is so much disgusting history behind IQ. You really don't want to know.

William Shockley. That guy? Literally said that people with an IQ under 100 should be paid to undergo voluntary sterilization. That's right, that f*cker would walk right up to me and hand me a $20. So what the f*ck does that tell you?

 

[Chava]

@Ed Norton ...a couple of my best friends have been fun, freaky smart (though I doubt MENSA members and one, a psych PhD, really disliked IQ testing). I want to be careful to not sound anti-intellectual, because there is too much of that in our society and too much stupid pride. It's important to value our gifts, whatever they are, and also not shy away from being smart. I just don't happen to like using any of it as separatism or a form of elitism...think that's where I was going.

@CrowFeather ...I relate a lot to this. I struggled very early in school. I thought I was just an idiot. I assume it was because of my early traumas and it took me longer to get organized and even function decently in school. But I was plenty smart...just not "school smart" for a while. I took off later, too.

In many areas of IQ testing I can't even answer the questions, so some parts of my cognition are actually still pretty poor or undeveloped. But I tend to score really high in other areas, enough to pull my whole IQ up high. But it's not balanced. And ultimately none of it matters really if I'm afraid to leave my house! :meh::nailbiting:

 

[Ed Norton]

Another example of someone who didn't take the test and therefore Mensa ineligible... I've read all of his works except one 'Hanabi'. Fireworks the Art, Science and Technique is amazing. Fireworks from a physical standpoint is mind bending. A PhD in Chemical Engineering studying fireworks. Dr. Takeo Shimizu


http://pyrosource.wikia.com/wiki/Takeo_Shimizu

 

[Deleted member 20978]

What gets to me in reading this thread is how many people have been told by testers that they are average or lower intelligence, are clearly far far above average intelligence, and yet vaguely seem to believe that assessment.

Testing messed me up in a different way. I refuse to say my scores but I was told I'd never be able to function in adult society (exact words) at age 18, explicitly and specifically because I was too smart. The jury is still out on that, but it was very very very clear to me that that doc who said that was a f*cking idiot and ought to be working as a patent clerk or something where he can't do any real damage to people. Stupid is as stupid does.

Adding The Knick to my to-watch list. Clive Owen is cool.