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Early Warning Signs & How To Stop Depression Before It Starts? (Alt Title - f*ck Me... I’m Baking)

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Just a few things I do that help:

Eat lots of foods high in tryptophan as this is the building block of serotonin and will help your body increase production.
Spending time outside to get a dose of sunshine. Natural vitamin D does help mood, bones, immune system, etc.
Exercise as it does improve mood and making sure I don't skip it.
Keeping sleep pattern as regular as possible.
Doing something different and for me it is visiting the waterfalls in my state. Trying to visit them during different seasons.
Engaging in a service project/activity as having meaning and purpose really help me keep from self depreciation and feeding the depression.

Hope you find something that helps as I agree depression is one of the hardest things to deal with.
 
you probably won't want to hear this but... I think drinking makes it worse, even just a "few" drinks at night to relax...
I reached out to someone new, a new psychiatrist and he didn't suggest meds and just let me feel acknowleded that I'm sinking and this is deep... I have no idea why it just helped to slow the sinking down. The guy was good at listening and nodding. It gave me a relief of sorts, sorry I don't have any advice. ?
(and I'm pretty much a hypocrite cuz I definitely use.)
 
Friday, I. think your thread is a great one! Full of good ideas! Me, myself wish I could say that depression was so far away from me, but I can't. I live in it everyday. Things I do to take my mind off of it, chew gum ( lol) grab some tea along with some water and get physical! (Yuck!) I eat a lot of protein to stay physical because I think I can work-off my depression everyday. ( I take meds to separate myself from it the best I can... But sometimes I cave from the exhaustion)
 
Other than baking what does depression look like for you?
LOL...Baking is just something I catch myself doing before I fall into a depression. Not something I do when I’m actually depressed. I don’t do much of anything once that happens.

Some of these overlap

When I’m deep in it...

- Sleeping 20+ hours a day
- Eating maybe once a week
- Medical grade lethargy (I’m awake, but I can’t even turn my head, it just too much effort, so I just lay there.)
- Staring a whatever is in front of me, as if it’s the most interesting/ engaging thing I’ve ever seen, IE boredom is impossible). Different from lethargic, because I can move, I simply can’t see any reason to.
- Inability to care about almost anything
- Apathy
- Blunted affect / emotions / anhedonia
- No real awareness of time or time passing
- Large disassociation spells / lights on no one home

There’s just no fight left in me, my get up and go got up and went, and I’m just tired. Too tired to care, too tired to bother, to tired to notice. I don’t want anything, not even the things I need. Waking, sleeping, living, dying, grief, joy, pain, pleasure, hot, cold, hungry, full, loved, unloved, alone, surrounded, clean, dirty,... all just sort of swirl together, losing the sharp edges that makes them them, and there’s nothing left but a kind of boneless malaise of DGAF.

And any currents of it you KNOW how to deal with? (Cause I sorta doubt the WholeThing is a sucker, so if we break the depression down, which bits of it you can tackle already?)

Actually? The whole thing. I’ve never been able to break it down because it’s very on/off, not a lot of gap between when I’m fine & not fine... but there are some alt-versions where

- Holed up and hurting. This one is fairly frequent? But short. Usually just a few days of few weeks. It’s like the above at half-strength shaken with pain/grief/despair/sadness (so much sadness & I don’t DO sadness) and garnished with a twist of helpless rage, and served straight up. flaming, and thrown at a wall. Curled up to lick my wounds, sort of thing. I’ll come out eventually, and I’m very much aware of what’s up thanks to all the pain that keeps me present, but it’s a waiting game. Any time I’ve tried to push through it, without a very real emergency propelling it, I’ve ended up waking up a few months later having kicked into the full fledged version without realizing.

- As long as I have motions to go through, I can just sorta kinda go through the motions. It’s like, the inertia is still there, but I’m already moving so I keep moving. Without really knowing why, or caring. More in disassociation land than depression land? Very dead inside, but at least there are signs of life externally.

I don't think there is a way of stopping depression. It sounds as though you are scared to be depressed. I understand the fear. Once it starts, it's hard to stop.
Yep. Abjectly terrified of it. Every other symptom set I can still have a life, maybe not the life I want -10 or 20 hours a day of flashbacks and panic attacks and all the f*ck else doesn’t leave a lot of time to do much, but there is still the ability to do something. Depression steals all the time and all the ability. I’ve never been able TO break out of it. It just happens, until it stops. Then there’s also the joy and excitement of . ;)Powerlessness + Control Freak = Nooooooooooooo.


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Rage kills Despair
Action kills Fear
Nothing I know of kills Depression


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KK I know there are more Q’s but my brain is done. Maybe it won’t happen this time. Maybe sometimes baking can just happen all by itself. Maybe I can get one of the tips/tricks here in this thread to work.
 
Powerlessness + Control Freak = Nooooooooooooo.

How much can you reframe this, wondering?

Because you are still moving in time, for the time passes, whether you feel it or not. Just drifting, but moving. Bit off course, that is all. That is not NOT moving. You get back on course, later, all depression does is change the course... Not you. Not your life. The where you are going, & how fast.

The time you truly stop moving is only if you bite the bullet.

Meaning also, you are not powerless.
You are waiting the sucker out. :sneaky:
 
sounds really awful friday. I know depression can hit hard when it does, recognizing the signs is a good call.

Best I can tell right now when depression starts to hit for me I will drop self-care, stop showering or exercising. My routine starts to suffer and at some point stops.

Please hang tough man, you got this. Maybe do one self-care thing today. You are worth the effort.
 
The somatic experiencing therapy model of depression and trauma puts it right next to dissociation. The more foggy and blah depression gets, the lower down to dissociation it is as a “cold” symptom - according to that particular model. (Anxiety/anger and fight or flight being further away as “hot” symptoms.) Maybe grounding would help? Things like holding ice. Strong foods. Your body is already craving sweets... (or so I’m assuming with the baking) and comfort? So maybe the opposite? In DBT they call it an official skill of “opposite action.” Sort of what you tried to do with the not baking (so this may not work) but instead, make something spicey. Cold showers also can work for me when I start to slide into a blah I don’t care about anything place. Hard to not care when shivering. Grounding is all about strong safe sensations that grab the attention and zap into the right here right now. Instead of running or methodical rhythmic sports I will go do something that requires full brain engagement even if I’m falling all over myself because my body is so fighting to think. Dance. Basketball. Darts. Even video games. (Which can be mixed.)

Vit D, B 12, and tryptophan are good ones that help lessen depression for me. Caffeine gets tricky. Sugar makes things worse and veggies and proteins better. (Which is hard because all I want is pie and Doritos.) New research came out about Acetyl L Cartinine is effective for depression. It seems to help perhaps a little for me. Depression gets worse when I stop it.

Depression is one of the harder symptoms for me as well, especially when I get to the point that I don’t care that I don’t care. My heart goes out to you!
 
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