Ecstasy

[anthony]

I respect that self-medication is a bad idea, not the right way to heal, drugs are illegal, street drugs are scary, and none of this is research-based.

But, come on man. You can tell someone that something is bad for them a million times. It does not mean that they will not make the opposite decision.

If that is in response to me, I think you should also go back and read this entire thread... because you have possibly lost the point being made here between the use of Ectasy / MDMA in daily use vs. MDMA in a therapy only environment.

Also, there is research that cites MDMA's effectiveness in therapy, which you would read if reading the entire threads content.

MDMA in therapy is a good thing and showing excellent results.... MDMA / Ectasy outside of therapy, total bullshit and denial for taking it to treat PTSD.

 

[Adrienne12]

I agree. I took an E pill about a year ago. (off the street of course) It made me worse. I had a panic attack during the high for about 5 hours. Panic attacks for 5 minutes are too long. 5 hours was brutal. It came in waves. I wanted to die. Dumb move on my part. I hope anyone even considering this would do it only in the therapeutic environment.

 

[Philippa]

I agree. I took an E pill about a year ago. (off the street of course) It made me worse. I had a panic attack during the high for about 5 hours. Panic attacks for 5 minutes are too long. 5 hours was brutal. It came in waves. I wanted to die. Dumb move on my part. I hope anyone even considering this would do it only in the therapeutic environment.

That is a very unusual thing to happen on an E. I've never heard of anyone having a 5 hour panic attack. I believe you, it's just very rare for that to happen.

While it's true that you never know what you are really getting, especially if you buy it off the street from someone you don't even know, most people who take it NEVER experience anything like what you just described. Most people have a ball on E. It can remind us of how it is to be really happy, and I for one think that's a good thing, especially if it's been so long since you remember what happiness is.

Of course it's not good to take them all the time as a substitute for real happiness...that's just lame, and I've known people who've taken large quantities over a few years and they have real trouble producing their own serotonin, as their brain has not had to do any work for years.

If you decide to take any substance with an attitude of fear, then don't be surprised if you have a panic attack.

 

[mysihba]

Anthony, you are probably more aware than I of a study in Norway, I think, not many years ago, using MDMA for PTSD. I can't find it right now so hope you have read some of it. It showed great promise until the anti-drug people got it shut down. (yes, therapy verses street drug...caught in that trap). Many years ago it was used in the US in the mental health community. So seems to be some hope there if nothing else. Not so much hope now as any form of it is considered evil in this country.. The point remains...controled pure MDMA maybe...self medicate on x...forget it.

 

[Adrienne12]

I did a lot of E when I was younger and never had any problems except for some irritability coming down. You are correct. I was in an anxious state before taking the pill and it was a speedy one. I always preferred the dopey ones when I was using. I always believed your mood before using any drug like E, shrooms, or acid....had to be good.

My attitude towards the drug was just like yours. I thought it was a wonderful experience. However, I find that with the PTSD...I am extra sensitive to any substance. I can't even drink caffeinated coffee. So, for me, it's best to remain drug free.

 

[Philippa]

I did a lot of E when I was younger and never had any problems except for some irritability coming down. You are correct. I was in an anxious state before taking the pill and it was a speedy one. I always preferred the dopey ones when I was using. I always believed your mood before using any drug like E, shrooms, or acid....had to be good.

My attitude towards the drug was just like yours. I thought it was a wonderful experience. However, I find that with the PTSD...I am extra sensitive to any substance. I can't even drink caffeinated coffee. So, for me, it's best to remain drug free.

Sure, I understand that completely. I don't take any of these things either, for the same reason.

I have recently been able to smoke pot again, but I don't do it regularly, and it doesn't seem to have a bad effect, like it used to,so...

Coffee I take when I'm at work, so I can concentrate, but I find it has an unpleasant effect on me as well.

 

[Aine]

Aine, I think you need to read this thread, and all associated research about MDMA helping PTSD, because none of it is how you have done things, nor suggested.

IT HAS ONLY EVER BEEN ABOUT WITHIN A THERAPY ENVIRONMENT.

Anthony, I understand you have a position of responsibility as a moderator to not promote or advocate illegal or irresponsible activity amongst your members. I respect that.

However, sharing my experience or my opinion is not a terrorist action. I certainly never meant to upset anyone and I apologise if I have done so. Your reaction was a little scary and, I felt, extreme and for a few weeks I avoided this thread because I couldn't really see it as a safe space to express myself anymore.

As I said before, I do not advocate self-medication, I was simply sharing an experience in the hope of perhaps finding someone else who'd had a similar one or informing someone who was thinking about self-medicating of what can happen.

 

[Philippa]

You certainly didn't upset or terrorize me Aine. I enjoyed reading about your experience. Sorry you don't feel safe to express yourself here.

 

[Kintsugi]

As I said before, I do not advocate self-medication, I was simply sharing an experience in the hope of perhaps finding someone else who'd had a similar one or informing someone who was thinking about self-medicating of what can happen.

Aine, please feel free to post here or private message me if you want to have a conversation about substances or emotion.

I have never heard of someone doing drugs recreationally as safely as you did (pure MDMA, half a roll), and I think it's important that people share their experiences with others, because everyone should be informed of what their experience could be like or should take into account if they decide that that is something they want to do. Hearing people tell me about their experiences does not necessarily make me want to try something, it just gives me information that I remember and recall when I decide to do something, words of wisdom. As you can see, a lot of people have posted a little personal experience as well without penalty. I think anthony was probably just doing his job in setting up his red flags and has decided to let this thread fly maybe. I personally expected it to be shut down after my post, but here we are.

Also, I have experienced something similar to you but with a different substance. Although, I've never actually had pure MDMA (probably never will), so I guess our experiences wouldn't match exactly.