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Relationship Finding Myself On The Other Side Of The Fence, Needing Advice

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Hello! I've been a member here for nearly a year now "as a sufferer," but I foresee playing the role of supporter for someone else in the very near future.

I'm a sorority president, and we're well into our fall recruitment period now. One of the young ladies who seems to be a great fit and will most likely receive a bid (offer of membership) after interviews seems to have become quite attached to me in particular whenever the potential new members come out to events with us. This is perfectly fine with me, as we get along well and I can already tell that she's someone I would like to be close friends with regardless of whether or not she makes it in.

Today was the Terry Fox Run (an annual cancer research fundraiser held in cities across Canada and internationally), and since most of our girls planned to walk it, we allowed two of our potentials to bring their dogs. This girl brought two, and was clearly going to be hard pressed to control both in such a crowd with other excited dogs around, so I walked one of them with her. We chatted together and with the group for the first half of the run, but by the second half we had settled into a slightly faster pace than the other walkers from our group and had left them behind a bit. That's when she started telling me about her abusive father, childhood bullying experiences, workplace bullying experiences, attempts to run away from home, and her (very recent) struggles with depression, self injury and suicidal ideation. So much of her story sounded like mine. Not the acts or details necessarily, but the impact of it all and how it has changed how she thinks about herself and the world around her. She's the same age I was when PTSD caught up with me.

I told her that I've had similar experiences, and that when I say I understand where she's coming from, I really do. I mentioned having an abusive father, but didn't share my own details. I didn't want to stop her from telling me what she wanted to say before she was ready to stop, and by the time that happened, we'd reached the end of the walk and were now surrounded by people we knew again. I told her sincerely that I'm here for her if she ever needs to talk to someone who understands, and she's said she will.

Later today, those of us who are full-fledge sisters of the sorority were discussing our impressions of the potentials so far, and someone brought their concerns about how we're going to decide who mentors who during their new member (sometimes called "pledge") period. Another of our potentials is the roommate of one of our actives, and through that contact is already frequently in the company of half of the sorority. We're just the founding mothers class right now - 6 ladies - so that doesn't leave many of us who would be appropriate to be her mentor. I took this opportunity to announce that I would be taking on the girl I've been speaking about above (not the roommate girl) if she receives a bid. (We refer to them as our little sisters, or "Littles," and we are their "Bigs").

I don't know yet if this girl is comfortable disclosing her story to all of the girls, or if she's actually decided to trust me this much so quickly. I think the fact that I was the one who went looking for her when we were gathering the team today, that we share a passion for dogs, and that I help with her fur babies could all be factors that made her more comfortable with me, but this is still only the third time I've spoken with her. Either way, regardless of whether or not she chooses to tell the other actives about her past, there's only one other who will have any sort of personal experience to draw from (not her own experience, but someone close to her), and that person is the active in charge of educating the new members. She can't be seen to have a favourite. It's obvious to me that this makes me the best fit to be this girl's mentor.

So, I'm looking for advice from supporters. I don't know if she knows what PTSD is or if she's been diagnosed, but I can already tell from the way she talks about herself and others that she does have it. I think it's great that she's about to gain such a close-knit group of life-long friends at such a pivotal point in her life, and I really wish I had this when I was in her place. I also know that when I was her age, just starting to wrap my head around PTSD and how to try to live with it, I would have given anything to have a supporter who had been through it. That being said, I don't know what, when and how much of my own advice and experiences I should share with her.

I'm also thinking ahead to November when the new members will become our sisters. As a Panhellenic sorority, strictly speaking, we do not haze. There are no dangerous, embarrassing or illegal stunts required of our new members during their new member ("pledge") period. It is, however, traditional to have a bit of fun with them the night before their pinning. Call it initiation, if you will. I just went through it recently myself, as we're a brand new chapter, and sisters from the other chapters came out to give us the complete experience. I can't reveal what happens, but I think it's safe to say that we test their dedication to the sorority and reinforce their bonds with each other by letting them think for a few hours that they are collectively failing their final test (of sorority/Greek life knowledge). In truth, if they've been invited, they're already pretty much in. I had moments during my initiation when I was fighting very, very hard against oncoming panic attacks from the stress of the night. I was successful, but I've been learning to cope with this for 7 years now. I'm very torn between whether or not I should break the rules and give this girl some reassurance immediately before the initiation. I want very much to tell her "You can't tell this to any of the other girls, no matter what, and no one can ever know that I've told you, but regardless of what you think is going on over the next few hours, don't worry." It's vague enough that it wouldn't spoil anything, but it's enough that she might not have to get too stressed. The problem is that if I did tell her and she told the other potentials, then it would ruin the night for everyone, and if she told the actives, I'd be in trouble.
 
It sounds like you are doing every thing right; you are being very respectful, by not imposing your stuff, nor a premature diagnosis, on her. Perhaps you can be life long friends, and when she brings up PTSD-if she develops it, you can be there for her?

It seems that PTSD surfaces when either life stresses increase, or activities (like sexual relationships, etc) or people (similar to those in the past) trigger memories.

You might share how: counselling helped you, or share that she might want to tell her story with great discretion to her peers, or share PTSD Forum, or share support groups.

A wonderful opportunity to continue your healing, by giving back.
 
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I agree with Change, you are being very careful and discreet which is great for this young lady. However, I would try to get the 'footing' of this new relationship back onto 'general' grounds and perhaps suggest that she might gain some help from a Councillor. I say this because too often people with 'issues' attach themselves to lovely people like you and you become a pseudo psychologist and what better excuse has she for not seeking professional help than to say she has YOU?

I would IMHO not tell her anytning about the upcoming event. I think if she has you as a saviour all the time, the ONE time you don't do something that she expects you to do, will have bad consequences for you. So say nothing and allow her to experience the ceremony with her fellow sisters and that will also make her feel she really belongs. If there is no harm done and you keep an eye on her she should be fine, if not then she definitely needs counselling.

I am not suggesting you not have a close and happy friendship, but she is new to the place and I do not know how many people you have told about your PTSD but for me it is a secret. Her willingness to divulge all that personal information is a concern.

Just don't become unduly protective of her and if you think she needs it, steer her towards counselling rather than heaping her experiences on you. Good luck!
 
Agreed too, blackemerald said a few things I really agree with, about not telling her anything and letting her experience it, see how she reacts. You got through it, she may or may not, but that isn't your responsibility. It sounds like boundaries could be an issue for this person, but it's true, you could have a good friendship with her based on mutual understanding. Or even a mentor relationship, which could be beneficial to both of you.

Some of us can be more ready to divulge things than others. It can be just because we can sense who is trustable, but some people do overshare because of attachment issues that create unhealthy bonds. It's possible too that she overshared to test whether that would be the end of her candidacy. It's hard to say.

Best wishes
 
It's possible too that she overshared to test whether that would be the end of her candidacy.

That thought hadn't even occurred to me! She's only been with the other actives in my presence, though, and I'm the only one she's told. We were all together again tonight for the last recruitment gathering before interviews, and while she talked a lot and frequently changed conversation topics, she didn't discuss any of that again. (I was briefly in the car with her mother and younger brother today, as I tagged along to her dentist appointment so that she could then walk to my place to join in on a car pool, and it seems like no one in that family lets anyone else speak. I think the frequent topic changes is because of this, and not avoidance.)

I've asked the other actives their opinion of this girl - without revealing anything, of course. I started a group discussion of all the potential new members in general and let them discuss others first, even, so no one would suspect that I knew anything about her that I wasn't saying. The consensus is that her enthusiastic-yet-scattered constant chatter will get on everyone's nerves at time, but she gets along well with everyone, she's definitely in this for the right reasons, and there's a certain position that we need filling that we think she'd fill very well. It would involve her being in regular contact with our chapter mentor, who she reminds us of very much.
 
Your description of her constant chattering and being a bit scattered is likely to get on some peoples nerves but it may also be a symptom of her anxiety and her need to please and be socially accepted. Just an observation but I would suggest you do not divulge any secrets to her because as mentioned by presentjoy she does not sound like she has got strong personal and interpersonal boundaries so to be blunt, she may not be a good keeper of private matters.

Your observation of her family interaction was interesting too. There is a saying, "you cannot listen with your mouth open" and if her family is orientated towards not listening then she may have to learn that skill at college hopefully before she upsets other's around her.

I really think she is rather lucky to have met you and, with your past and your illness, this has meant that you are much more sensitive and understanding than perhaps others may be. You sound well grounded, best of luck with the future.

Kind regards
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