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First Time Serious Suicidal Thinking.

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GF, you are doing well at writing your feelings. I too can get overwhelmed thinking as you have written about the rent. It is only a few days away.

Can you break your thoughts down as to what fear or anxiety is stacking. Work on the smaller parts to start. Breathe and review again. We can work thru this! Pain can be the largest contributor of anxiety. I am here surrounding you with calming thoughts.
 
Thanks Whitney!

I am trying to break it all down into small parts - am reminding myself that I can;t do anything about the money / rent until Monday - it's only helping a little bit.

I am getting pretty good at writing my feelings and also developing the skill of identifying what stresser is associated with each of the feelings. But trying to address each of the issues is really hard especially as they all involve other people and I have to wait for them.....

Am trying to do self care things and bring anxiety levels down - it's slowly working, but I keep focusing on my fatigue levels - I did not think that it was possible to be this exhausted!

My poor brain just can't cope with everything and I feel so terribly alone.

Can you break your thoughts down as to what fear or anxiety is stacking.

Am not sure what you mean by "stacking". Is this like which fears and issues are causing how much of the anxiety?

They are all to big for me at the moment - especially as I keep thinking "I want my life back" with each and every issue - they are all just too big for me.
 
I really have had enough of this all for today - just don't even care enough to keep trying to move past the anxiety. It can happen as much as it wants, and then I will be really tired - hope to get another good night's sleep! I certainly need it and if it happens it will help me to cope with everything.
 
That's ok too, just to give yourself a break on feeling you have to keep your hands on so many, many reins, take a vacation from all the work. Whatever works, be kind to yourself, is the thing. There have to be some bottom lines while we move through all the dreck, that would be a big, fat one. Whatever 'kind' would entail for you, you're the only person who can do it for yourself when most needed, if that makes any sense.

Much Peace being sent your way, I hope today is a little magical. It's Dr. Seus's birthday, has to mean something! :)
 
Give myself a break from having to deal with so many things? How? They have to be dealt with and no one else to do it......

Not sure that I can be kind to myself - this would involve a very long rest! Which can't happen. I keep slipping into a fantasy where I am having a break of several months in hospital due to exhaustion - there is no pressure to do anything at all except to rest. I wish this would happen, but the only way that I have to make it happen is to hurt myself! My doc thinks that I am doing OK because I am still plodding on, but I am not OK at all.

Fancy being in a situation where the only way to get a break is to hurt myself. Mostly I don't want to do this, but sometimes I am so tired that it becomes a good option.....

Wish my brothers were in touch with me - I might be able to talk to them about this and who knows maybe they could help me. I think that this will be another day staying in bed as that it the only way that I have to protect myself.

Meditation reminder: Sometimes your thoughts will want to take you to dark places. Try not to follow them.

Why not follow them - the dark place just might lead me to being able to let my brain have a nice long rest.
 
Wow, what an evil morning. Woke up and dropped into a severe anxiety / depression hole. Some people in chat helped me to cope for some time but then it suddenly got worse. I had to leave and go outside - it didn't really help because I wanted to move - needed to run away from all the thoughts!!!!!!

So, I went for a bike ride - and cried the entire time. I wept and wept and wept. I came home and felt a little better, I think my inner child took charge during the ride so that I could have a break from thinking and just be still mentally and weep.

I was able to have a lie down listening to music without getting to upset again, then had a shower and have been writing in my journal. I am just starting to be able to break down the anxiety and see which stressors are causing which part of the anxiety / depression / exhaustion. Might take me a bit longer to get it all sorted out - hahaha it will take me a bit longer to sort it all out, but I hope to be able to then implement actions to address each of the issues......

It just seems like a never ending loop - how many times will I need to be able to to through this before I can see things building up and act before the negative and destructive thinking take over???? That is what I am looking forward to - this is a part of what I am expecting "being well" will be - having the energy to self manage myself so that I don't end up in this dark places all of the time.

Wish that I had the energy to do lot more self help stuff - this is so good for me, but I have to fit it in around work - damn it!
 
GF, do you have something you maybe used to get a huge kick out of, some deep interest? Please don't be frustrated, I think if someone had asked me that question when I was feeling like you are it would have frustrated me terribly and led to MORE despair, like that person wasn't getting it. I do, so am risking it. The thing is, I kind of accidently was forced into having to re-connect with a big, fat nerd interest of mine, then had to interact, get online, post, talk to various people in the persona of that nerd, not as someone in the midst of despair and depression who has PTSD chewing at them. I know it sounds impossible, and I was kind of forced into that situation originally so probabl unfair to bring it up but gosh was it helpful as HECK. It still is, since you do just plain, old detach, talk about giving your head a vacation, wow. The loop is terrible, I know, as do an awful lot of us here.

In point of fact, I sometimes have to take my Kindle with me on my daily run, to use the audio to drown out that stupid, stupid loop. It makes me crazy, trying to meditate while out there and those destructive voices ( not really voices, swear, you know what I mean :) ) disallow anything but one more loop. Argh. Listening to something sensible, peaceful, some guided thing disallows this, just thought I'd mention this, too. I know you already have this kind of thing, maybe just step up the amount of time you use it will start some re-routing for you?

Sorry so long on your thread, some of this stuff just sounded awfully familiar, you never know what might be helpful to someone. It's always at least worth mentioning just in case, you know?
 
On reading some other threads I have been wondering if I am driving myself into total failure because that is what my mother expected of me? I had thought that I had found a good balance between her conditioning and my reactions to it a long time ago.

She always treated me as if I was useless. I rejected this as I knew that I was not like that at all. I think that I used to believe that I could do pretty well at most things, and was happy with myself when I did.

But now looking back to pre-PTSD times I am wondering if I expected far to little of myself to keep her happy - even after she died.

And now I am thinking that maybe her programming of me has contributed to me giving up on myself. To thinking that I am worthless, and so not fighting this terrible illness harder.

Maybe this is just PTSD talking, but I don't think so. It is almost like I can hear her telling me that I could not possibly beat this thing, so why even try?

I am also so tired from fighting it, that I don't know how much longer I can keep going for. Or why I bother when after 3 years of struggling with it I am still going backwards.
 
From Maddog (in another thread):
I am in a very, very similar place Awakening. I wish I knew when, or if, it would ever end. I read and think about what I should do, the things that allegedly "work", and I don't dispute them... and yet somehow they aren't ever enduring enough, aren't ever powerful enough, aren't ever rewarding enough to outscream the sound of pain and suffering in my head.

Maybe it's that there's never a reprieve, never a rest, never a moment of peace. Maybe that's what seems to torture my mind into defeat.


This is it! This is the reason that I am unable to act on the things that I need to do to "fix" myself and my life. Well this and the unbelievable mental exhaustion.

I am too tired and there is never a break from that. Therefore even though I "know" the things that I need to do, I quite simply can't. Sometimes I mange to go through the motions - but that is all that I am doing. I appear to be doing OK to other people, but inside my own head I am so broken - all the "progress" that I have made is not really healping me - at least it does not feel like it is.

My life is still such a mess, and I am too broken to be able to do anything about it. I ask for help from my doc, but she thinks that I am doing OK because I am still working - everyone seems to think that I am OK because I can work part time, exercise, and do things to help myself get well.

The problem is that I feel just as bad as I used to - and I don't have the energy to keep working so hard to help myself - I want some results so that I can feel that I am getting somewhere. I want to be able to believe that all this trauma, and addressing the trauma will be good for me, but I can no longer see the light at the end of the tunnel.

I want to have dreams and believe that I can attain them. I am no longer brave enough to think that I will be well, or happy or loved. I no longer think that anyone will ever care enough to give me tangible help. It's all to hard.

And the really frightening thing is that when I have finished here I will have to go to work. Yes I will go and when I get home I will be catatonic with utter exhaustion - why so I keep doing this to myself??? What exactly is the point? So that I can live the rest of my life in pain and fear???

I need a break and I am not going to get one.
 
Oh Boy - the good and the bad all mixed up together.

I had to work out of town today and met with a lady that I see a few times a year with work. We have a willingness to talk about emotional things with each other - no judgement, just acceptance and understanding. IT was so nice to be able to listen to her tak about issues with her father and family members and have her listen to me.

To be able to just simply talk about, and around, topics that are bothering us, and that effect us deeply was such a true treat. We both cried at times, but that was OK, the conversations just kept flowing.

To have someone to understand what I was saying and just accept that they were by feelings - who could share her similar feelings. It is actually really hard for me to explain how it all felt - but it was a good thing.

Now it is over......I am feeling terribly alone and isolated again. Like waves of emptiness are drowning me. But I am also a little happy that I had this opportunity today.

And that's another thing she understands: that it is possible to have two emotions going on at the same time! I was so happy to be able to talk with her, but also very upset by the topic we were talking about. She was in the same situation - wish I could see her more often.

Now I am getting angry because I don;t have this type of friend that I can see regularly - am going to go and have a cry in the shower......or in other words extend some empathy towards myself!
 
Talk about a let down. I have woken this morning realizing just how devastatingly lonely I am. My chat with my friend yesterday was the nicest thing, and today I have fallen into a great big black hole - feeling so sorry for myself because she is the kind of person that I want to have in my life, and the connection we have is just so damn good - I crave that and can't have it often enough. Just being able to talk face to face with someone, and have them understand where I am coming from - and to their facial expressions!!!!!

She is someone who can clarify what I am saying - she pointed out that much of my dad's behavior is probably because of his guilt, and that it sounds very manipulative. Her dad is much the same, and it was just "good" to have this talk to her. Our dad's do similar types of things, and in that light is was so easy to see how the way he is behaving now is turning into emotional blackmail - I am pleased with myself for having seen that too!

So I am really low because I have only had a tiny bit of such a good thing - and I want lots and lots of it.

I am also low because I had hoped to have direct contact with my brother's by now. As I have not I can only assume that dad is pressuring them in some way to let him "take care of everything". That is not good at all - as his way of taking care of everything appears to be to perpetuate the division and distance between us all. This is disappointing, not totally surprising, but still disappointing. I know that it has not been long since we got in touch, but if he is already moving into his destructive behaviors then I am going to have to conclude that it will be best to keep him at arms length. Necessary if I am to have any hope of getting to know my brothers again....

It is really sad - not unexpected, but sad. I had had a small fantasy that he would be able to communicate with me in a respectful manner. That we could just talk about stuff and gradually re-build some kind of relationship - but now I don't think so. I feel like I am grieving all over again - and I don;t have the energy for that.

Still far to many things on my plate and not enough energy to cope with very much as at....... I am meditating (kind of helping), resting (reading), walking. Have not done anything inmy journal for a few days but I suppose that I will need to get back to that today - peel away the layer of emotion about all the family stuff again.......

:hug: for myself.
 
So much for writing in my journal!!! Too distressed to manage anything - am thinking about lots of stuff and hoping that these thoughts will give me a starting point for the writing.......

Might end up doing goals and values so that I have things to be getting on with while I am going through all the old stuff again - will need some joy each day to keep me going.
 
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