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News Five Year Old To Be Charged With Murder?

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In the news today, I read that officials in Kansas are considering charging a five year old with murder. From what I understand, the child and her 18 month old sibling were left in the care of a sixteen year old. The teenager fell asleep, while the toddler was in the tub. The five year old, tired of the crying, held the toddler under water until the crying ceased.

Can a five year old really be held responsible for the death of a toddler? I hardly think so. A five year old is not capable of understanding the consequences of such an action. It seems to me that there are two victims in this case.
 
Gosh, I don't know! I do know that Ted Bundy was about the same age when his aunt was babysitting him. She woke up and he had surrounded her with knives from the kitchen. Scary to think about huh?

What the heck are they doing to the 16 year old? How in the world do you fall asleep with a child in the tub? Makes me remember why I was so careful about who watched my boys when they were little.:eek:
 
Yeah I'm not sure here. At five I knew killing was wrong, and I grew up in a nut farm without any real exposure at all. It is just something innate, I think. You don't have to teach kids not to kill. But whether or not this child realized his actions were harmful, I'm not sure. At five I knew I wasn't supposed to hold my head under water, I knew when my head was under water it was bad, I had enough safety sense to figure that out.

Any parent here would teach their five year old those basic safety skills, and they are smart enough to realize that if it is harmful to them, it is harmful to other people. Children are a lot smarter than we give them credit for. So yes, I think this child must have realized what he was doing was wrong. But, is he fully responsible for his actions? I would say no. A five year old, while smart, does not have the cognitive ability to make life and death decisions like that. Ted Bundy probably saw the knives and thought "Oh man, so cool, let's freak her out!" He probably wasn't making premeditated moves toward murder at five. Do I think he intended to kill the toddler? Nope, because again, rational decision making process not up to par.

God, there are so many contradictions in what I just said. I'm sorry, my thought processes are a mess.

My basic summary is: Five year olds know killing is wrong, and should know drowning is unsafe. Five year olds probably cannot make a premeditated decision to kill that is fully supported like an adult can. So, obviously, he should not be PUNISHED as an adult. Should he be charged? Maybe. If the charge will bring him the help he needs in order to understand his actions, understand their consequences. I'm very sure when this child grows up they will probably have the guilt of the universe on their shoulders, and I think a five year old child can certainly be forgiven for an action they didn't understand the consequence to. There are definitely two victims.
 
I think you will find a 5 year old does not understand the difference between right and wrong. My psychologist was telling me about how a 5 year old saying your a bad kid wouldn't understand what they were saying. They don't have a concept of it. They are copying behavior. So doubt they would understand death either but I am not a psychologist. I think that this wouldn't have happened if a responsible caregiver had been present. How can a young baby be left crying long enough that it annoys the sibling and they go get the child and make a bath and then put them in it. It would be 15 minutes. I don't see how this could have happened if a responsible caregiver had been present and had been watching the children.
 
I just read that the 16 year old girl is mentally disabled, and the adult relative left the children with her so that they could go pick someone up from a bus stop? Why would any adult leave children with a teenager who is mentally disabled? The story I'm reading also says the little girl pulled him into the tub, and that the tub was still full of water from other children taking baths. So, the adult left 2 small children home with a mentally disabled 16 year old and a bathtub full of water? How irresponsible and sad.
 
I think that the parents who left them with a mentally handicapped 16-year-old and a bath full of water should be charged with third-degree-murder through negligence and the reckless endangerment of their children. What idiots. I hope the child is taken to be cared for by someone more responsible, honestly. This is a completely inexcusable lapse in judgement. If it was that important to go somewhere to pick someone up, they should have just taken the children with them. Dear lord, the people who live in our midst.
 
Soon we will accuse and convict fetuses for global warming concerns..

Silly as this sounds 25 years ago i never thought we would be charging a 5 year old with murder!!! When are we going to make parents take tests before they have kids? Oh know we cant do that because then all the professions that rely on dysfunction to gain wealth and control would be out of business........ And then those persons would have to get real jobs IKESSSS working the fields and getting there hands dirty.......
 
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