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Getting Feisty With Your Therapist...

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It's like the comic book superhero who just realizes they have laser beam eyes and has to destroy everything they see until they learn how to turn it off and on.

I like this analogy :-) It's so true. It is like discovering an ability (staying present, feeling feelings) and then not having the first clue what to do with it even though you know you must be able to use it for good!

First try to understand where the anger comes from, its source. It isn't your therapist, although s/he probably has on her checklist to get you in touch with your feelings.

Yeah....I know it can't really be about her... She's been encouraging me for a while to get in touch with my anger...she'll say things like 'Are you angry with <whoever>?' or 'I'm wondering if perhaps you're angry with me?' and I always say I'm not because it hasn't ever felt like I am. But now this definitely feels like a mix of fear and anger. It feels like it's kind of low level bubbling under the surface at the moment, which makes me think that at some point there's going to be a massive release of rage. Which isn't the controlled, contained, composed person I like to present!

So as to the source...it's me...I feel angry at myself because I made a mistake. I made a mistake at the time by not saying or doing anything to stop what happened and not calling for help even though someone (my mother!) was close enough that she would have heard me and come to me and it would have stopped. And I made a mistake afterwards by not reporting what happened - by not telling anyone actually until I told my therapist last year - about 20 years later. And I know it's not all my responsibility - I know the other person acted inappropriately and unprofessionally. But I feel like I just let him do it. So at the very least, it's a shared responsibility - we are both at fault and are both to blame. So perhaps I should be sharing the anger between both of us. But when I think about what happened, I don't feel that way about him and what he did. I don't feel anything towards him. I feel angry with myself.

Ugh, sorry...I think this was an overshare!
 
I am not sure how long you have dissociated for. My advice? Fill yourself with positive.

I'm not really sure how long because I only realised last year that I did it at all! I used to day dream a lot when I was a child - was often so caught up in my own world, in my own bubble, that I wasn't really aware of anything going on around me. And I used to zone out of conversations a lot - especially if they were conflicts so I'd for instance zone out to not listen to my parents arguing. But I think the first time my head really just left was when I experienced the trauma when I was a teenager. I think I dissociated during it. So that was 20-odd years ago. It's strange though....for years I had no idea I was doing it, then for the last 9 months or so I've realised how much I was doing it and now it's disappeared and I think I can't live without it and want it back again!
 
Can you post again to let us know how your therapist was able to break your dissociation? I think that would be of interest to others.

I still don't really think I have a clear explanation for this so forgive me if I just churn out everything that's in my head about it!

My therapist has gone very gently and slowly with me...a few months ago, I was dissociating for about three quarters of the time in each session, so we were spending quite a lot of time on grounding techniques. We came up with strategies, which included having a 'box of tricks' at home to 'bring me back' if I started dissociating. So, items that would engage my senses and get me present - I'm sure lots of other people here must have things like that. And we also agreed a half-hourly check in routine because the box of items was all very well if I knew I was starting to dissociate but not if I was already gone and didn't realise. So setting an alarm to regularly check in with myself and to get up and move regularly so that I couldn't get unwittingly stuck in a freeze were both parts of the strategy.

My therapist and I also talked about my dissociation quite a lot. I talked about the experience of it and she told me how she knew it was happening or about to happen. So, obviously I went into a starry/trance-like state. But she said there were other things I did before when I was just starting to get a bit spacey - so one thing is that my body would go into a freeze even though I might still be speaking and the body position I froze in was nearly always the same. Another thing is that I would tend to repeat the last thing I'd said and say it in exactly the same way, like a stuck record. So, because she told me some of those signs, I was more conscious of doing them and it did make me more aware that my head was starting to go so that I could then try to do something about it before I got into deep dissociation. So with the new consciousness, I just started noticing more and really practising bringing myself back. And it was incredibly hard work and always left me exhausted afterwards. But I started to make progress because then it moved more to drifting in and out during sessions as opposed to going in to deep dissociation and staying there for an hour! So my head would go, then my therapist would speak to me and say I was 'going' and then I'd come back. Then it would go again, then my therapist would suggest I had some water, then I'd come back and have some water, which helps. Then a while later it would go again and she'd say I was going again and then I'd come back... And then after a while, it stayed the same in that my head would come and go in sessions, but she was less involved in bringing me back...my head would start to go, I'd realise (or I'd hear myself repeating a phrase and realise that I needed to do something) and then I'd be able to bring myself back without her intervention.

Over the past few months, I've had to have quite a few medical consultations/procedures and that environment/experience is very triggering for me. And for a long time, I now know that I've tended to dissociate during medical examinations, which means that I don't focus on the information I'm being given and I can't accurately answer questions I'm asked etc. So for the ones over the last few months, my therapist worked with me a lot on preparing for the consultations as much as possible. So weeks before the first appointment, we started working on ways to make the appointment as safe and positive an experience as we could. So, for instance, my therapist phoned my consultant's PA and outlined what I needed - things like for a chaperone to be in the room with us, for the consultant to always let me know where he was going to touch me and why before he did so, for me to be able to wear something for the consultation so that I didn't feel so exposed etc. At the time I felt like my therapist was going a bit OTT with all the prep and the strategies but it turns out that I did have really positive experiences. Yes, there were challenges, of course but for the first time in years I didn't dissociate during a medical examination/procedure. Which I think was about feeling prepared, feeling like I knew what to expect and feeling more in control of things because I'd laid down boundaries from the start. So I think that was also a massive step.

So I think noticing the signs before I got in too deep, my therapist really teaching me good strategies and signs so that then I could bring myself back instead of relying on her and also the thing about finding other boundaries that work for me. My therapist said dissociation was the biggest boundary I used and I hadn't ever thought of it in that way. So, for instance, with the doctor thing - when I could lay down other boundaries like those around giving the doctor info in advance, him giving me a heads up before physical touch or around clothing so that I didn't feel exposed – I think I had less need for dissociation because other things were helping to make me feel safer and more protected.

Sorry...I know I'm writing very long posts at the moment...I feel like I need to clear my head out before it implodes, so I think I'm just brain dumping!
 
@ghotiff Yes, I know she'll be fine about it...I think she'll actually be pleased with the shift. I suspect she can see that it's coming already - I suspect she saw the signs before I felt them. She's rather brilliant/irritating like that! ;-)
 
I think this process you're experiencing is "doing the work." :)

I think you actually are my therapist! Whenever I get impatient and beat myself up about not doing therapy well enough and not making progress quickly enough and I say I need to 'do the work' she always says very patiently...'we are doing the work...'
 
When I am in pain that seems huge and unknown I remind myself not to resist. To go toward the pain instead of trying to shrink away from it. It's bringing change, let it happen - that kind of idea. Resisting can make it worse and more complicated.


Yes...this makes sense....I know this is what I need to do....walk towards instead of running in the opposite direction... Hard because I know my defences are up and resistance is my middle name...but I know that has to be the change to keep things moving in the right direction.
A good reminder...thank you.
 
Sorry for so many posts everyone! I really do appreciate all your responses - every one of them has given me something to reflect on and/or some warm fuzzy feelings.

I'm going to talk to my therapist about it all on Monday. I know she will be supportive and understanding and lovely. I just hope my voice doesn't get hijacked as it always seems to when I want to talk about something important (i.e. something about my feelings) Will take my journal with me so that I can write some things down if I go mute. Determined to get all this out there with her so that we can work through it together.
 
I know that has to be the change to keep things moving in the right direction
And since you already know this, this change is already happening. It will come slowly as you do this work. The resistance will lessen and the times when you can consciously not resist will increase.
My therapist said once "the defences are there for a reason." That gave me a feeling of having a respect for what I coped with and the ways I did.
 
My dissociation...shut off. I didn't do that. Someone inside my head did, abruptly, over a couple of weeks.
Then I got memories back and had a grief tsunami for a while and had things that generally fall under the heading of " nervous breakdown."
Things feel so raw now. I'm here.
I was dissociated so long I thought that was normal.
 
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