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That gave me the opportunity to go into as much detail as I wanted, and have a plan
I just wanted to know since this thread was discussing it, why is it important to talk about the trauma? I figured since it was being brought up I should ask the question.

I am stuck in therapy and this entire thread is confusing me. My therapists are always complaining I don't talk, but I don't understand how talking about details of anything makes sense. Do they really want to know the exact way things happened? It seems disgusting to me. It makes me cringe and want to crawl back into a cave. How can saying exact details about sexual abuse make things better?
 
I just wanted to know since this thread was discussing it, why is it important to talk about the trauma? I figured since it was being brought up I should ask the question. How can saying exact details about sexual abuse make things better?

Gosh, that's a big question. Maybe someone else can share the "theory" behind why that's so important in the treatment of trauma, but in my personal experience it was valuable because I had this mess of memories and triggers, like, vacuum sealed tightly into a dark part of my brain and I never directly looked at it or thought about it, just avoided it and felt the pain seep out and unconsciously let my reactions to triggers control my whole life and every relationship. Breaking the seal on the secrets and decompressing the contents and dumping it out, every single bit of it, in front of someone I had learned to trust changed it.

1. Telling the secrets I was made to keep when I was young helped me regain control.

2. Telling my T details felt like having a witness. No one felt empathy for me when it was happening, or even was sorry it was happening. Telling her about it legitimized that my pain was real and what happened was wrong. Allowing someone safe to know, in detail, what happened to me allowed them to see from their un-biased perspective what the truth about it is, and tell me the truth so I could learn to see it too. For me, part of that had to be unflinching honesty. I couldn't trust her when she said I was a good person and could heal unless she knew the very, very worst and most awful details.

3. I like the analogy of vacuum packed bag because when stuff is sealed in a vacuum packed bag, you can't move it around inside- just like how when your trauma is held in secret you can't really make changes to how you understand it or are affected by it.

4. Maybe the biggest was figuring out triggers. I used to just think my brain was chaos and my mood swings or bad days were random. Talking through the details of my abuse helped me realize how very random things, like a certain common compliment or a fast-food type paper napkin could evoke dramatic reactions in me because they reminded me of experiences with my abuser. Knowing my triggers and understanding them has gone a long way towards helping me cope when I'm affected by one.

Sharing the details was more-than cringe worthy. And I dissociated every.single.time even when having what I wanted to share written out in third person, but at the end of day I can see it really helped me- and in a way it felt really good to get out of me. I guess it felt a lot like throwing up. It was miserable and I never want to do it again. But I'm so, so, so glad I threw up and got it out. :)[DOUBLEPOST=1400120666,1400120389][/DOUBLEPOST]
So is a bad sign that I don't want to talk about the details of the sexual abuse? :/

I don't think so. Not having the desire to talk about the details doesn't mean you aren't actively in the process of healing and doing great. Maybe you are one of the minority who can process your trauma without talking about the details, and you are honoring the part of you that knows that. Maybe your T hasn't earned enough of your trust for you to feel like that's a safe thing. :)
 
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Does it depend on the type of therapy you are doing? I'm doing CBT and we don't go into details of my sexual abuse. Just issues like trust, safety, self-esteem, power and control and intimacy.
 
I don't understand how talking about details of anything makes sense. Do they really want to know the exact way things happened? It seems disgusting to me. It makes me cringe and want to crawl back into a cave. How can saying exact details about sexual abuse make things better?

I can't speak on behalf of others and why they may/may not share details, but I will share my own personal reasons and experience. I'm not going to say sharing details, even small ones, made me instantly feel better or that it was easy. Definitely not. I should also add that it took many sessions for me to get to a point where I trusted my T enough to share any details. However, there are many positive things that came from me sharing.

Something that was very helpful to me was that my T and I discussed sharing details before I ever actually shared...It gave me a chance to warm up to the idea of sharing anything at all and it also gave me insight from her point of view as to why going into detail is important. Yes, therapists are human too. They have feelings and reactions and of course things are going to effect them. But they chose to do this line of work. They chose to help people process trauma. It's not that they want to "know" the exact way things happened, it's more that they want to know the way things happened so they can "hold" the details with you, instead of carrying it all on your own. When you talk about what happened and talk about details, you are diminishing the power that those details have.

Telling my T details felt like having a witness. No one felt empathy for me when it was happening, or even was sorry it was happening. Telling her about it legitimized that my pain was real and what happened was wrong. Allowing someone safe to know, in detail, what happened to me allowed them to see from their un-biased perspective what the truth about it is, and tell me the truth so I could learn to see it too. For me, part of that had to be unflinching honesty. I couldn't trust her when she said I was a good person and could heal unless she knew the very, very worst and most awful details.

^^ This is so well put, and so true. After sharing details with my T, for the first time in my life I felt like someone was on my side for once.

However, I get it. Cringeworthy is an understatement when it comes to describing something so awful, something you would never in a million years want to repeat to someone in detail. I still have not shared more than little bits and pieces of details with my T, and even then I wanted to bolt out that door and hide. But in the end, even if it's a couple days after the session, I do feel a sense of relief. Because someone knows what happened and as @Sarah2732 said, validated that is was wrong.

It takes time to build trust in your T, and trust in the safety of sharing. Don't put too much pressure on yourself. Just showing up to your sessions is a feat in itself. :tup:
 
I think (as well) as you are more and more able to share details with your therapist, you are "re-exposed" to the trauma in a safe and empathetic enviornment, and it changes how you experience the trauma...it may possibly also change the way your brain works with regard to how you process other trauma and/or flashbacks. But it's all about pacing ... building your resources ...
 
I think (as well) as you are more and more able to share details with your therapist, you are "re-exposed" to the trauma in a safe and empathetic enviornment, and it changes how you experience the trauma...it may possibly also change the way your brain works with regard to how you process other trauma and/or flashbacks. But it's all about pacing ... building your resources ...

Yep, I completely agree with this. There's something very powerful that comes from "re-experiencing" the trauma in a safe environment.[DOUBLEPOST=1400375941,1400375807][/DOUBLEPOST]@Notsowild I'm not familiar with how CBT works, as I have never done it, but maybe your T is working up to the abuse by working through the other issues first? Or maybe you will never go into the details themselves ;)
 
I've never found any trouble in sharing details about some of my abuse to my therapist. There are some things that I'm so angry about that I can't wait to share it. But then there are other things, strange things that I've never told anybody about. I'm not even sure if they count as traumas even. But I guess that since I'm afraid to talk about them then something must be up. Anyways, the most important thing is to go at your own pace. There's nothing easy about revisiting bad times.

Like some others have suggested, just start by talking about the concept of sharing stuff. Have a conversation about that, as you don't have to share anything while you're doing it, and it might make you feel more comfortable later.
 
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