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He Passed The Lie Detector Test

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You've been put in an impossible situation with regard to evidence, and wanting to make sense of the evidence is something that has driven me crazy at times. You must be so shaken, I'm so sorry this has happened.

Exactly....there is no evidence, no one to corroborate anything. For the past couple weeks, I have been contacting people from my childhood (some of whom I haven't talked to in years). This is what I've learned:

1) my stepfather is generally considered "creepy" and most of my friends were very uncomfortable around him
2) they found his presence intrusive
3) he rewound a part of a movie repeatedly that depicted nudity in front of us
4) my BEST FRIEND growing up was beaten by her father for years - I had no idea and was at her house all the time, which just validated that there wouldn't necessarily be a shred of evidence because I never knew! 5) the school nurse, whom I "thought" I remembered reporting the abuse to, says it never happened (my mother also says it never happened.

Like, when I tell you I've been on a mission to figure this out, I have been. I've reached out to everyone I can think of.
 
Other thoughts about the lie detector....

They only asked him ONE question....did he ever have "sexual contact" with me.....I feel like they should have asked that several different ways....for example, did you ever fondle your stepdaughter, did you ever press her body against your for arousal, that kinda thing. I feel like one question (even though repeated several times) is insane, absolutely insane.

At first, last night, I thought, I'm crazy, I'm wrong, something happened but he didn't do it. But I am honestly still not convinced.
 
WHAT?

One question does not determine innocence! I can't believe that a reputable company administering these tests would do that. Then again, I assume your mother/stepfather paid the company, so just follow the money trail.

You said something about a man who held you down... Was there more than one man? If your stepfather held you down while someone else violated you, then of course he could say with a clear conscience that he did not have "sexual contact" with you, but he is just as guilty! Its like those murder for hire people....In the eyes of the law they are just as guilty, but in their own minds they aren't culpable because they didn't pull the trigger.

I really think that your family is toxic to you. I urge you to seriously consider the future of your relationship with them.
 
My family is generally toxic. Well, my mother and my stepfather. My mother has verbally/emotionally abused me my entire life. She thinks that she is helping me. Like, I literally don't know if she is doing it to hurt me. I think that she was raised that way and that it is normal to her. She also has her own depression and anxiety issues (untreated) so that plays a part in it as well. My stepfather is just an a*****e. Aside from any sexual abuse.

I called the polygrapher today....asked questions. Of course she couldn't comment on his individual test....I didn't even mention his name. I found out what school she went to and etc. She insisted that the one question test (repeated three times) is the most accurate. In other words, she asked some control questions in the beginning (i.e., "are you in the United States", "are you in Switzerland") I guess to get a basline of truth/lie responses. She told me that her equipment measures sweating, blood pressure, and respiratory rate. And that it is at least 94% accurate. I asked her if the results are admissable in a court of law....she said only if the attorneys agree to it....I already knew that they weren't admissable.

I just hate that he failed this test. It makes me feel crazy, absolutely nuts....why did I go thru my whole life thinking that he did this and then he passes the test?

This has literally been one of the worst weeks of my entire life. My PTSD symptoms are out of control today. I hate this. HATE.
 
I KNOW SOMETHING HAPPENED TO ME. My whole life I thought my stepfather did it....I remember holding my brother as a baby and telling him that I'd never let him hurt him....I remember being fearful in a pool that my stepfather was going to show me his penis....I remember telling my boyfriend and a psychiatrist when I was about eighteen that this had happened.
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I think that you sound pretty sure when you describe things above. I think that you need to wait and let things calm down and think them through before you believe the lie detector.

I know that my father and mother could pass a lie detector. My father is so calm and detacted from his emotions (dissociation?) and my mother has spent so many years telling herself it wasn't real to cope that I think she truly believes it. Also all my father and mother's family don't believe that my father molested his children. Can you imagine what they would say if I told them he killed someone?

Think of all the people that have fooled people for years in the news.

I think that the way your stepfather reacted when you first confronted him and how all your friends feel around him I wouldn't be believing the lie detector to easily. I had a police office once tell me that if there are other people that feel uncomfortable around someone then it is usually a good indicator to follow your gut feelings.

What you described about is very clear and doesn't sound like someone who has fuzzy memories. Just take it one day at a time. I will be thinking about you. Hugs
 
This is very crazymaking on you with your family. Lots of people can pass lie dectectors. Please take extra special care of your self at this time. I do not know what you will decide whethor to stay in contact with your family or not. My heart goes out to you very much. I am so sad that you have to go through this.

Trust in your gut. It never lies to you. I wish peace of mind for you. I wish healing for you. Big hugs.
 
Thank you everyone. Your kind words really and truly have meant so much to me in my time on this site. :inlove:

I think I just need to get the investigating a rest for a while. Its been consuming my mental energy and I've gotten nowhere. Even my best friend and boyfriend told me that there is little chance of me ever getting direct confirmation of WHO did this. Like they are both supportive -- nearly all my friends are -- but they are like to the point of, stop driving yourself crazy. And they are right. I need to let it lie for a little bit and just allow myself to mentally process what is going on. I don't have to let a lie detector test dictate my reality or actions.

My mother called me tonight trying to get me to go out to dinner with her and my stepfather. I said that I needed at least a few days of distance. I don't know how to handle it. I had such a horrific day today emotion-wise that I can't even THINK of interacting with my mother or stepfather....if I'm being honest, I was suicidal tonight. I was thinking of coming home and slitting my wrists, or at least cutting. I used to cut all the time, I stopped ten years ago....cut myself about four months ago....don't want to get back into that.
 
I agree. You need to take really good care of yourself. They are not worth hurting yourself. You are a rare and precious human being. You are a person of value and worth. Big hugs.
 
I think you're looking at this in kinda the wrong way, not that I blame you, I understand the obsession with wanting to know exactly hat happened. The thing is though, you might never really know exactly what happened.

The more important thing is that something happened to you. If I were you, I try not to worry too much (easier said than done I know) about what exactly happened, and focus more on what effect it has had on you, and try and heal from those effects. You don't need to know exactly what it was in order to start healing from it.

I also think many of the comments in this thread regarding your parents possibly being in denial and being manipulative of you have some validity. I would suggest at least taking a break from having contact with them, and see if you feel differently about these things in a few months. My gut instinct says once you arent hearing the things they say on a regular basis the light of clarity will start to shine a bit more for you and the who/what/where/when/why stuff will work itself out in time if you just deal with the effect that whatever it was that happened has had on you.

My mom molested me. I don't actually remember the molestation itself, but I remember lots of inappropriate behavior, I know she was sexually active with my brother, and I can tell from the couple times I have tried to be intimate with women that certain things gave me emotional flashbacks while other things were just generally anxiety inducing. Even apart from all that, I just KNOW. Its hard to explain, but I think I am aware of those memories on some level, even though I can't actually consciously remember them. While I was still in contact with my parents though, I could never trust myself to know truth from confusion because I was constantly hearing the manipulative things they would say on a regular basis, and believing

in my gut instincts was complicated because it was all tied up in a desire to believe that couldn't possibly of done those things, they loved me, etc, because I just wanted that stuff to be true so badly.

I am starting to think that someone else did this to me, but that I somehow super-imposed my stepfather's face onto the perpetrators. It is INSANE, CRAZY, that I will probably never know who did this to me.

Have you ever heard of Occam's razor? Its a theory that states the simplest explanation has the greatest chance of being the correct one. The 'razor' part is about cutting away unnecessary complicating things from an explanation. Lets apply that to your idea you superimposed your stepfathers face onto the memory of another person abusing you. Why would you do that? It doesn't make any sense. It might make some sense that if your stepfather abused you your mind would want to believe it was a stranger because that would be less traumatic than it being someone who was supposed to protect you. The simplest explanation for that memory is that it was correct, your step father did take part in abuse, and your parents have an interest in denying it. I'm not saying thats absolutely the truth, but its the simplest explanation and I think has the greatest chance of being the truth.

Regardless, something happened to you, and your parents seem more interested in proving their innocence than in providing comfort security or healing for you, which is sad.
 
I just KNEW my father did something to my little brother, and he knows something happened too, but he doesn't know who did it. I don't know how I did know, as I had no evidence...I just knew. Why would a young girl make that up about her own father?

See where I'm going with this...?
 
I really worry about you and the contact you have with your family, as I see them as toxic to you.

I can't comment on their denial that anything happened to you, as I don't know what this is like. Once I came "out" about my abuse, nobody ever told me "no, it didn't happen" It was more of an "ah, ok, now we know what's wrong."

I say that I'm worried as I know how doubting your own memory can drive you crazy. I've been dealing with PTSD my whole life, but the only time I actually thought I was losing my sanity was when I doubted my own memory and as a result I doubted reality. (It wasn't in relation to the abuse.) I literally thought I was going crazy. This is why I am urging you to take much needed time for yourself. I hope you can move toward a place where you are certain, or rather confident that your memories are true.

Will you ever be able to trust your mind if you remain in contact with your mother & step-father?

And in regards to your comment that your friends thought your step-father was creepy.... I had a friend's step-father who made me feel the same way. (And oddly you're the same age as me, I believe.) I don't KNOW the truth, but for some reason my friend is no longer in contact with her family. My mom ran into her mom and her mom said "I don't know why my daughter has shut me out" I heard this and was like "whoa, it must've been something big for her to completely cease contact with her family" Your situation reminds me of her.
 
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