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How do i deal with the guilt?

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Tinyflame

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How do I deal with the guilt of knowing my action, or in-action, resulted in a loved one's death, even though that death was foreseeable? I don't think it's survivors guilt, as I was in no danger. Worse yet, they were defenseless, and I would not have expected life-threatening consequences to myself to react (which I didn't).

Also, beyond love, I think my (in)action violated my own core values, that include love, loyalty and courage. That also causes me horrendous shame.

If anyone knows how to deal with or withstand unbearable guilt I'd appreciate learning how. I am at a loss. ETA, I feel like a monster.

Thank you.

Eta again, I realize I didn't cause it, but neither did I react, nor tell anyone, nor tell anyone what I was doing hiding all of it and my own shame.
 
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The question I have to ask myself first off is what & how much is my fault. My actual fault, stripped bare, without grief or rage claiming things that aren't mine to either twist the blade, or try and assume control I don't actually own/have (self-defense mechanisms that don't work can bite me).

That's not always possible in the moment. When it's not? I'm grieving & I leave myself alone. Mostly because I've found it's far more effective to grieve down every damn rabbit hole my heart & head wants to take me and then apply cold reason. That's not always the smartest move. Sometimes, if you can truly shut down those avenues before they start? The better. I just have some well worn paths. All blocking them off does is mean that I make myself dishonest. I still think/feel that way, I just won't own it. Shrug. So I let the firestorm rage down everywhere it wants to go, and then clean up, after.

After I've parsed out what's actually mine? I wish I had better for you, because my answer still sucks... But this is the best I've got.

- When I've been super lucky I've gotten the chance to learn from what I've f*cked up. To be presented with the same scenario, different time & place, and choose differently. It doesn't erase the guilt of the past, doesn't change it, but it helps to balance it. To square it some.

- When I'm not that lucky, it's just something I've learned to wear. Snort. Often times badly, but hey. This is the one that chafes the hardest in the onslaught if the 'not your fault' business. Yes. Actually. Some things are my fault. And there is jack all I can do about it. <<< That I know of, in any event.

- When I'm unlucky, not only do I really f*cking hate & despise what I did, but I would do it again.

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And maybe someone has a better answer to how you deal with that, than mine; You just do. Own it, learn from it, and if you're f*cking lucky as hell maybe you'll get a chance to do differently someday.

It doesn't bring people back. Nothing does. But no matter how many times I've sworn to myself I'm never loving someone ever again, never being responsible for another person, I always somehow break my word & do. So the 'lucky' part is only in not losing another person by making the same mistakes, twice. The foundation of that, though, is that they actually have to be mistakes. Not cognitive distortions, or ways I'm punishing myself, not accidents, not control issues, nor anything else that is false. Actual mistakes, for actual guilt, not grief & pain masquerading as guilt & shame.

Sorry this probably isn't very useful. It's just something I struggle with a lot.
 
Guilt. This is a hard one... I didn't cause or even be a part of someones death, but I know the person that was.... the way things ended DID NOT HAVE TO BE THAT WAY.... the other caregiver should have given the situation more thought as to the comfort level of the patient... nothing I could say.... I knew she did not see that she had options.... it never occurred to her to do it another way.... so my guilt lies in something that is just to naive to think about.... why didn't I let her know if X happens... handle it this way... first, do no harm...
Death was imminent anyway... doing it with more care would have maybe given her another week... maybe. But because I loved this patient.... I was angry.... but I never let the other caregiver know... I didn't say anything to her about what she did.... or didn't do... I wasn't there... but I felt guilt for a long time... which served no purpose what so ever...

I don't know Junebug... this is a difficult one... grieve the loss, as long as it takes.... sometimes we are not going to get an answer no matter how long we ponder it.... or blame ourself.... just grieve the loss.... I did, I still do.... but try to do it without the guilt... sometimes it works , sometimes it doesn't.....

Sending gentle hugs from someone who understands.... seems none of this damned dark ride is easy.... love ya
 
I'm sorry @The Albatross , I don't understand what you mean? :confused:

I've been thinking about this, and I agree with @Friday it's important to not censor what comes up, at first, and later face it.

I think too like the others have referenced above, there is context. And as, for example @brokenEMT said, feeling that was the best choice to do- how could you not choose it? In my case I think it was shock, lack of experience dealing with it (contributing- I did not expect that action), and if I'm honest I never called for help nearly ever even for myself, either- always have kept 'mum' (due to whatever life lessons).

Or/ & as ladee said, separate the grief and loss from all the rest. Ideally I would expect to try to remember the good- that focus. I remember, too, advice to write 'them' a letter, and float it or burn it. It was very kind of you not to say anything to the co-worker.

More often than not I'm sure if situations were reversed the other would want any of us to destroy our lives over it, or even feel this way. I wouldn't.

I do suspect it's contributed a lot to my own self-concept, or rather decisions, and reactions. Probably more far-reaching than I know. For example, I probably allow more negative done to me, especially as the death, had it been just an hour or 2 later, would have prevented a lot of grief for a current family member, still struggling. Also, I have felt like a ticking time bomb, but in all honesty not because I rage, and not because I haven't spent decades trying to control the symptoms, but more so because what kind of person could I be if I let someone I loved down in the crunch when it mattered? (That self belief/ self-'assessment'). Or/+, in my heart of hearts I can't imagine to have to face that family member again, even in heaven, if there is one, in the next round. And, too, people like myself deserve hell more than heaven anyway, suffering too for tht matter, I think while running myself down. Etc. (it's unfortunately nearly limitless.) A lot of self-loathing, self-compassion is nearly impossible for me. Though I think it's just 'human' to do good, I also don't really see or feel 'reward' in what I do 'good'- it's a debt of millions paid in pennies.

The first step was realizing (learning) I wasn't complicit; the second was learning if I had responded differently it would likely have been ignored (I agree). I guess this next challenge is challenging, "yes but why didn't I respond/ react?"

(I suppose the first was ever telling anyone at all, I think that took nearly almost 30 years).

Thank you so much to everyone for your honest and candid input. :notworthy: :hug:

Hope this makes sense.
 
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Also, the irony is, this person risked his life, repetedly, for total strangers. :(

But I suppose I would not be who or how I am now, without that experience, and other experiences. For better and worse, it's contributed to where and how I am today. The only option I have now is responding to that. Much as @Friday said. Not in the past but in the present (trying to make it just about the present, while being who I am because of all stuff).
 
Are you able to recognize any false guilt if you have it? I went through EMDR and discovered that I was not guilty as I originally thought and believed. If it is true guilt.....can you make amends in a letter that you keep to yourself? Just a thought.
 
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