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How Do I Develop A Positive Relationship With My Weight?

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therisa

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Another winter is, upon me, and I find myself, battling depression and the weight gain, which happens, during this time of year. This has worsen, my constant struggle with my weight, yo-yoing, from being almost anorexic, to severely overweight, and my ability to control my glucose levels, as I am Type II diabetic (it runs, on the maternal side of the family). Every single gram that I gain, in my body mass, further fuels my destructive thoughts about myself, and worsens my depression, having heard a lifetime of comments about this, from people, who mean well, to me. Not realizing, the power of their words have, upon me.

I know, part of my weight gain is, the by-product of my transitioning and the HRT programme, I am taking, to modify my body chemistry. I knew this, before I started this, but wasn’t prepared the dramatic swings, I have experienced, since April 2008. Normally, I would experience a seasonal winter gain, in my body mass, only to lose it, during the spring and summer. Except now, it is harder, with the lower metabolism, which the transitioning has brought about. I can accept, part of this weight gain, as the female body have more fat deposits, for its curvy look than the male body does.

Ideally, I feel the most comfortable, around the 65 kg range, which my friends tell me, I am becoming anorexic, in my appearance, given my body frame. Except, I feel grossly overweight, when my body mass is 70 kg, which is healthy, for me.

How do I turn this destructive way of thinking, into a positive and constructive manner of viewing myself, in which, I don’t beat up myself, up, every time, I gain a single gram? To stop the mental flagellation, I do to myself, after every month weigh-in, with my diabetic nurse, especially, when the weight loss is, only 300 grams.

For the record, part of my abuse, did invovled issues about my weight, as a child and an adult.
 
I believe you're addicted to the drama--that it serves as a distraction from confronting the prospect of processing painful emotions and memories, and the unknown of moving into a new identity, past a struggle which is familiar to you, as it's caught up in shame and self-flagellation, as you put--likely just as your memories of, and identity in, your significant trauma.

We so often stay stuck in the familiar, as safe, even if only unconsciously--despite how it might honestly seem to ourselves that we'd like to do otherwise...just as the woman leaves one abuser, only to end up with another with nearly identical patterns. If she truly wanted to be through with abuse, why would she have chosen another of the same type?

Because it's all she's ever known. Even the pain is preferable to the unknown--the devil we know better than the devil we don't. And of course, the battered spouse/lover is not consciously aware of seeking out a replacement abuser. But it happens time and again nonetheless.

And so you may well remain stuck in the same comfortable cycle of familiar pain, shame, and self-flagellation, replicating early life experiences---and at the same time, serving to distract you from what you'd otherwise be more likely to fill your time with, actually productively addressing the core traumatic experience.

I don't know you, of course, so this is all supposition according to patterns. But I do speak from experience, not as one issuing edicts from the top of a mount, as if from a remove.

You mention the tendency to feel guilty. This is a common reflex in those who've long been victimized. It took me a long long time to identify it in myself. In order to begin to see it clearly enough to move passed it objectively, and cut it's strong, perverse hold on me, I've had to begin thinking of it in terms of an addiction--I'm in fact addicted to shame.

I get a rush out of it. An overwhelming, overpowering sensation is associated with it.

You'd think that you wouldn't be likely to become addicted to something that made you feel so "bad"...but think about it...people continue to become addicted to cocaine, despite that it makes them terribly paranoid. People continue to drink, long passed the time when it still has any real effect on them, to the point that they are only really dealing with the physical fallout of it, and getting none of the positives.

We're become addicted to intensity. It doesn't necessarily have to be intensely good. Any intensity is false, and prevents us from simply and genuinely connecting with actual feelings, and sitting with them. Intensity is a distraction, after all.

Sky divers and other dare devils become addicted to the fear rush--but that couldn't exactly said to be pleasurable in it's purest nature.

But even more insidious, in my case, I realized, was that I had an "upside down" value system.

What do I mean? I mean that I learned to think of something as "good" if it made my parents pleased with me, as a child.
However part of gaining that approval was feeling "appropriately worthless", when they wanted me to display those feelings--whether as a means of discipline, overused--or for the simple glee of watching another creature squirm...
..to me I began to think of myself in terms of finally getting approval from my parents, if I only felt miserable and shameful enough.

So I was unconsciously pursuing this early life association with the "goodness" of my parents approval, with my "duty" to feel bad.

And I indulged this unconscious association even after they were no where in the vicinity, as though on auto pilot.
I was getting my fix, of feeling "worthy" finally, (in the eyes of my parents=good), by making myself feel unworthy, so as to gain that approval, despite the fact that they were long gone! I had been taught so well, I took over my own victimization! But even more perverse--and for so long, unknowingly--I actually got not only the gratification from it associated with childhood duty, but the "intensity rush" that I could wallow in, and so avoid the genuine work of honestly feeling real feelings. I didn't know where to begin at that, after all. I was very familiar with feeling miserable. You know what they say....it may be soft and warm...but it's still sh*t. It's amazing how we'll continue to seek the familiar despite its being painful and miserable. Familiarity is more comfortable than the worse human fear of the unknown. We are creatures of habit.

I wonder if this guilt falls along those same lines? I'm not saying you're a bad person indulging in guilt-mainlining and only using the excuse that you feel bad for your husband in order to do so. Nothing of the sort.

But if you think back to your abuse, how much of it had to do with making you accept cringing feelings of worthlessness in order to finally make your predator happy?

This is all really more of a side note, really. Just wanted to bring something into your view as one survivor to another.
Just trying to open that door, so that you might spare yourself years of shame addiction as I did--even in the absence of my tormentors. And it can be every bit as debilitating and life-robbing as other addictions, I found.

So glad you're here. And glad you've finally found someone you deserve, and who deserves you. Hope you'll continue to post about your experiences with this "outpouring" of stored trauma. There's a book intended to aid in discharging stored trauma through specific exercises, entitled "Waking the Tiger", by Peter Levine. Maybe of some help.


So in a brief answer to the question "How do I develop a relationship with my weight"...I believe the answer is, you already have....an abusive one...and an addictive one....serving the same underlying need: for distraction, the comfortable familiarity of misery held over from the past, and the shame rush of making yourself feel bad--self-flagellation, in order to unconsciously feel good as a result, having "given yourself what you deserve" in the model set for you from your previous abusers.

The real question should be, then....are you really ready to change your relationship with your weight, and risk the unknown of moving forward, and forging an identity not based in past patterns--as well as to be left without your addictive worry-stone of drama, which kept you preoccupied enough to distract you from confronting real issues?

Just my opinion, of course. And I don't know you at all, granted. But I do know me...and this structure fits me to a tee...not fit, but fits....and I have to make a regular daily decision to risk finding something that fits in a different way, and work at forging it from scratch on a continuous basis.

Sometimes I forget. Many times I forget...and find myself reaching into my stash box of shame...before I realize what I'm doing, and catch myself. and remind myself that I'm now in recovery.

So glad you've found a place for support, as it sounds as though you're in the pits of discouragement. If anyone understands, I certainly do. And I'm glad you've reached out, and shown the bravery that honestly baring your weaknesses requires.

I don't recall seeing you here previously, but I'm new myself. Hope you'll post back with some reaction, and hope you've taken this post as it was intended, as one recoverer to another.
Be well.

I'm including part of a post made to a different thread, as it pertains, here, I believe as well.
 

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How do I turn this destructive way of thinking, into a positive and constructive manner of viewing myself, in which, I don’t beat up myself, up, every time, I gain a single gram?

For the record, part of my abuse, did invovled issues about my weight, as a child and an adult.

Sigh. This is me, too, @therisa . I'd like to know the answer myself someday. Eating issues are cryptic and (for me at least ) have a habit of being annoyingly subconscious. Being thin as a child/teen earned me attention, respect, and seemed to reduce my abuse (or so I think from my cluttered memory).

To combat this, I'm finding that I need to love myself and feel deserving of love (for me, especially accepting love from God).

Most importantly, You DESERVE respect, kindness/compassion, and most importantly, unconditional love - regardless of the number of kilograms on the scale on any given day. Don't forget it ;-)
 
Wow, @Promicarus , thank you so much for such an insightful post. You hit on some things that I didn't even realize I experience in a very intense, habitual manner. Especially the using painful, albeit familiar habits to avoid confronting the real issue, and the shameful feeling and worthlessness I needed to feel to in order to make the abuser happy. I didn't even realize I experienced that shame to "make them happy." (I have zero memories of emotions from the abuse).

Quite insightful - really, thank you.
 
I believe you're addicted to the drama--that it serves as a distraction from confronting the prospect of processing painful emotions and memories, and the unknown of moving into a new identity, past a struggle which is familiar to you, as it's caught up in shame and self-flagellation, as you put--likely just as your memories of, and identity in, your significant trauma.

@Promicarus the very fact, I am transitioning from Male-to-Female, means I am facing my traumatic past, and attempting to deal with my memories. For the record, I suppressed this part of myself, for 28 years, before accepting it, and taking steps to deal with this part of my life. For my PTSD and gender identification are interlinked, by treating one, am treating the other.

Am so sorry, @crazy8 had to experience this, too.
 
@therisa

I'd like to apologize--I realize now, looking back at my post, that I could have phrased my approach much better, and that it appeared to be critical.

It wasn't intended to be critical, at all.

And not knowing you, of course, I didn't intend to imply that you were avoiding addressing your trauma, or any other responsibility.

I only meant to refer generally to tendencies that I have, and I think many others have, in using distractions to keep us wrapped up in past patterns. I in no way meant this as directed specifically towards you, or in an any way critical manner or tone.

But rereading the post, I realize that I should have made much more of an effort to make this distinction clear.

I hope you'll accept my apology, and I admire you for your restraint in not reacting defensively, but by simply stating your own case, clearly.

Best wishes.
 
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It has been a long time since my body was anorexic looking, but my mind still thinks that way. My weight has been going up ever since I had kids and had to stop exercising. Not too many weeks ago I was physically disgusted by myself. I couldn't believe my husband would take me anywhere. He never said anything. It was the voices in my head. I'm still trying to reacquaint myself to my physical appearance without being ashamed. I think, if I'm going to lose weight, I am going to have to start learning to like myself as is. Otherwise, it is just a block in the way because I am not focusing on myself in a healthy way.

One of the reasons I posted my picture was so that I would see it everyday and learn not to be disgusted by it. Normally I hide. I talk to myself everyday about accepting myself, instead of beating myself up. Someday's are better then others.

I hope you can also learn to love yourself for yourself, regardless of pounds.
 
@therisa

I'd like to apologize--I realize now, looking back at my post, that I could have phrased my approach much better, and that it appeared to be critical.

It wasn't intended to be critical, at all.
@Promicarus apology, with open arms. It is so hard to judge, where another person is coming from, when all you have, is the brief posting, before you.

@Britt.f7 that is about the hardest thing, to do, but am willing to give it, my honest best.
 
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@therisa,

I'm no expert. I have weird eating patterns, where some weeks I eat and some weeks I don't. For years I was so busy I didn't even notice. Now I know and I see how bad it is and I'm handling it several different ways... on an intellectual level, I've decided that it's stupid of me to spend so much time working on trauma processing and going to therapy and doing all the mindfulness and meditation and yoga, blah, blah, blah, while at the same time just not eating well and sleeping well, too. Nothing's going to make me feel better on a day to day basis more than those two. So, finally, I had to make a chart. Tracking what times I actually ate and what times I drank water and what times I took vitamins and what times I slept. This doesn't work for everyone, but it works for me... I like filling in the little rectangles with information. I'm not tracking what I ate, just that I ate. And it becomes painfully obvious when three days have gone by and I've eaten exactly two meals and drank two glasses of water total... in three days. Plus, a key thing I've decided makes it easier for me to deal with PTSD is to go walking everyday. No pressure, just walk. I end up having really keen insights about PTSD and getting exercise. It's all good.

Intellectualizing it and the chart doesn't go all the way, though... I've really had to think again and again about my past and why I've developed these weird eating habits that really are all trauma related. As I've resolved trauma, weight loss has been easier. As I've resolved trauma, I've been able to put aside some of my weird coping mechanisms, like being obsessive, a perfectionist, always doing something, always controlling things... being all those things took up a lot of resources for my body, y'know? I was always under too much stress and doing too much and it's like my body saved calories accordingly. So that was part of it for me.

Finally, I am working SO HARD to believe that I deserve food and water. Sounds ridiculous, maybe, but I don't believe I'm worth it some days. So... some days I combat that with just sticking to the chart (don't think, just do what the chart says, LOL!)... some days my husband looks at the chart and comes around with a water bottle and stands there as I drink it (pathetic, I know...) and some days I just work really hard at believing I deserve it and I take care of myself by myself. It's so incredibly hard, no doubt. I was so thoroughly trained by my childhood not to eat healthy, not to eat 3 meals a day. Anyways... it's working for me. I haven't focused on "dieting" at all. (You have to think about me saying the next part in a really cheesy infomerical voice, okay?) "The PTSD diet really works!" Not that it's easy... but I think all kinds of weight issues tie in with PTSD. And I'm not saying any of these things applies to you or might help you... just that it's what I'm working on, and maybe it's a jumping off point to coming up with some new ideas of what could work specifically for you. I'm not sure, but the idea is don't underestimate how much of the problem is stress and PTSD. Keep working on the PTSD and you might just be working on the weight thing, too.
Because it's all she's ever known. Even the pain is preferable to the unknown--the devil we know better than the devil we don't. And of course, the battered spouse/lover is not consciously aware of seeking out a replacement abuser. But it happens time and again nonetheless.
I think, @Promicarus, a big part of the reason trauma sufferers get involved in the same type of bad relationships and situations over and over is because the brain almost forces them to do so as an attempt to draw attention to unprocessed trauma and to try to process the trauma. Like, you're stuck going through the same patterns again and again until you can resolve the trauma. It's not a very effective method for the brain to use, but I think that's what's happening. The way out is to address the original trauma. I mean, this is an over-simplification, but that's how I see it.

Finally, @therisa, I think it's just good you're addressing it. You have a lot of change in your life and that's stressful, PTSD is stressful, it's all stressful. Stress is going to add to your weight gain. So (as hard as it is) try to take care of yourself, be easier on yourself and just do the best you can. I really hope you find it easier this winter.

Oh, and this is totally stupid... but chia seeds are the new flax seeds, don't you know? They boost metabolism, have all those good Omega-3's that fight depression and help with weight loss. (Now this really sounds like a goofy infomerical. LOL!) But seriously, it's so easy to add like a teaspoon or two of chia seeds to smoothies, why not? I found they've helped me. I'd rather eat some natural organic food product than depend solely on Omega-3 vitamins.

I really hope this might help,
Best of luck!
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I'm starting to realize that for me, eating issues are deeply ingrained in the PTSD part of my brain that is self-hating and only knows an abusive world. I often have these images involuntarily flash in my head, or in my dreams, where I am emaciated and weak, just skin and bones and barely able to stand, then I'm being beaten up... powerless, vulnerable, and abused. My very obvious lack of appetite seems to be some subconscious attempt to experience this seemingly inevitable end to my life. And I think the obsession with my thin appearance is the outward expression of my desperate attempts to control my life. Though my PTSD-induced emotions seem to have a mind of their own, eating is something that I can easily control, being thin brings a sense of power in a world where I often perceive myself as vulnerable and weak.

My T wants to hand me off to an EMDR/PTSD & eating disorder specialist as soon as possible. Started calling around and will start this therapy when I find one that's a good match.
 
My first suggestion is that if you have a home scale, ditch it. It is far, far too easy to step on a scale, see the numbers and then beat the everloving crap out of yourself. At least for me. Those numbers don't tell you all that much about yourself, really, but it's so easy to allow those numbers to rule your life and become the measure of your worth.

What makes you feel good in your body? When do you feel your absolute best? Some of the things that make me feel best in my body are dancing my ass off all by myself, orgasms, wearing things I think are beautiful, painting my nails, bicycling or going for a walk, and because I know that they make me feel good in my body/as a body, I try to make sure not to neglect them. When I make a point of doing something that makes my body feel good, I am reminded of the joy and pleasure that my body can yield, of how much fun I can have in this body, of all the things it enables me to do, and of the fact that it is my whole life, essentially. I still struggle with my weight - and even more, I think, with my feelings about my weight - but even when my body "fails" to meet my ideal shape and/or size, it's still pumping oxygen to my heart and limbs, it still lets me pet my kitten, kiss my partner, it takes me to grocery store or to see my friends, it enables me listen to music and read this board. When I concentrate on all the awesome, great things my body does or enables me to do, my weight seems like just one aspect of my body and not even the most important one. Plus, the better I feel about myself, the easier it is for me to make positive changes in my life.

I don't know if you've heard of fat acceptance, adipositivity, or all bodies are good bodies but, personally, I've found all three movements/ideas useful.

No matter how small the achievement, it's still an achievement. It may feel like "only" 300 grams, but that's an accomplishment and you deserve to have it honoured as such. Those small accomplishments matter and they build onto each other, piece by piece and step by step.
 
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