I already posted this thread (on the carers only) 2 days ago, and Nicolette did reply, Thanks Nicolette, but I do need to talk about this so bad and I do need to hear more feedback......I am heartbroken !! My bf of 2 years left !!
I have been seeing this wonderful man for almost 2 years....He was and is everything to me ! We shared everything, we laughed, cried, talked, he was the best thing that ever happened to me. He was the most caring, giving, loving, funny man and he made me feel special and cherished.
He has PTSD from his time in Rwanda (the genecide in 1992, if I remember the year correctly), he was in the United Nations. A few years ago, he seeked help from the Vet's hospital because he did realize that something was terribly wrong!
Since then he has been on meds and is seeing a doctor. When I met him, I didn't see any signs of his disorder, he did explain to me though, and he did talk about his experiences.....He did say that besides his doctors, I was the only other person he opened up to...and that showed me how much he cared and how much he trusted me!
He was taking so many pills, but in the last few months he was feeling so much better that his doctor lowered his dosage.
All the while we were together, I went through a seperation with my husband, the divorce will be final very soon.
During these months of seperation, I talked to my bf a lot about all the problems my ex-husband was (and still is) giving me, financial and emotional.
My bf always listened and always encouraged me to talk. He was always the one saying "don't keep it inside, talk to me". He was always there for me....as I was for him.
I do know that it is not a very good idea to give a PTSD sufferer stress, at least more stress then he can handle.....but while I was with my bf.....I always forgot he had this disorder, cause he was so "OK", I saw him only as the man I loved....so I shared so many of my troubles. Now, looking back, I know I shouldn't have !!!
Well, 2 weeks we decided to live together...My bf moved in with me. The first week was the best !! I have never felt so loved and cherished and protected in my life. My sons (25 and 28 years old) got along very well with him.....and I was so happy to see the relationship he was building with them...especially with my younger son (who is still living with me). He needed a father figure and my bf was it ! They talked, enjoyed time together...it was so great seeing my men like that ! I thought life was finally being very good to me !
Well, it didn't turn out that way....I have to explain that my ex-husband was still giving me lots of trouble...calling me and screaming, calling my sons and telling them how bad I was ! It got worst when he found out that my bf was living with us. He then began to threaten my bf and I.
I changed the lock on the door, but one night at 3:30 in the morning we are awaken by banging and yelling ! It was my ex-husband wanting to come in....finally after trying to calm him...with no success I called the police. From there I also changed my home phone number.
But by then the damage had been done, my bf....poor sweetheart, had heard and had seen enough !! He used to say to me "I wish I could help" and "your ex-husband is putting you and your sons trhough so much"
A day after the police incident, I saw a change in my bf.....he then said to me that he was unhappy, the reason he gave for his unhappiness was that I lived in a big city, and he is not used to city life. But I felt it was more then that.....I felt an emotional withdrawal from him, he no longer was the man I loved. He then tells me that he is moving out !! Just like that !! with no clear explanation !
I tried reasoning with him...."we can go see your doctor together", "we can move wherever you want", etc....nothing !! Whatever I said to him didn't register...I didn't recognize him at all !! it's as if only the shell of the man I knew remained !!!
He finally left last Saturday, saying he loved me, saying to me "you hate me", crying and shaking and not saying much !! ...it was the most painful thing I had to go through...I thought at the time...but as days go by...It is becoming more and more painful !
Hate him ????....how can I hate him when I adore this man !! Sure, I do hate the situation...and I did try to explain to him...I kept on saying "I don't hate you, I love you" and he kept on saying "you don't love me, you hate me"
What I am getting from this, is that he always wanted to protect me, to make me happy, to see no harm come to me or my sons....and I think that he just believed that he couldn't help...he felt helpless !!! and also very threatened ! (by how my ex-husband was acting).
And of course with all the stress I was giving him, (through my ex-husband) l I believe that I was the cause of his downfall, I think he sees me as the enemy and not as the woman he loves. Because of me, he felt he needed to leave before he reached bottom low ! He said to me that he was returning to 3 years ago (in his mind)...and 3 years ago was his lowest !!
I did speak to him today, he called saying "I closed the joint bank account" (which I knew he would do)....but when I said to him "that is all you have to say???" ..He said "yes"...no emotion whatsoever, it was like I was talking to a stranger !
I am at work, and when he called I just wanted to cry and cry, so I hung up very quickly, went out a bit and called him back. He sounded very calm, emotionless and I said to him "I know I can't push you, I know right now you see me as the enemy and you want to avoid me", but I also wanted to tell you that I love you.....and again he says to me "no, you don't...you hate me".
And I said to him "don't you realize how much you hurt me?" No matter what I said to him...it didn't register, it's as if he is not there !!
I know that I am maybe making things worst !! But I WANT SO MUCH to understand what went wrong !!! Ok, I know why he is doing this, I have read so much about PTSD, to know that it his way of coping...by leaving and avoiding stress !! but it hurts so much, I wonder if he realizes how much he hurt me !!
I get the feeling that he just doesn't care about me anymore, or worst, that he now hates me and can't ever come back to me, because he associates me with his downfall. I am (in his eyes and mind) the person to avoid at all costs.
Please help me, let me know what I should do or shouldn't do !! I am completely torn and I feel lost !! I love him so much, I need him in my life, as I always told him "I can handle anything, but I couldn't handle being without you"
Will he one day realize what he did ? Will he ever come back ?
Sorry, this is so long, but I had to let it out, and this is the only place I can do it...I feel this is the only place that understands !
I have been seeing this wonderful man for almost 2 years....He was and is everything to me ! We shared everything, we laughed, cried, talked, he was the best thing that ever happened to me. He was the most caring, giving, loving, funny man and he made me feel special and cherished.
He has PTSD from his time in Rwanda (the genecide in 1992, if I remember the year correctly), he was in the United Nations. A few years ago, he seeked help from the Vet's hospital because he did realize that something was terribly wrong!
Since then he has been on meds and is seeing a doctor. When I met him, I didn't see any signs of his disorder, he did explain to me though, and he did talk about his experiences.....He did say that besides his doctors, I was the only other person he opened up to...and that showed me how much he cared and how much he trusted me!
He was taking so many pills, but in the last few months he was feeling so much better that his doctor lowered his dosage.
All the while we were together, I went through a seperation with my husband, the divorce will be final very soon.
During these months of seperation, I talked to my bf a lot about all the problems my ex-husband was (and still is) giving me, financial and emotional.
My bf always listened and always encouraged me to talk. He was always the one saying "don't keep it inside, talk to me". He was always there for me....as I was for him.
I do know that it is not a very good idea to give a PTSD sufferer stress, at least more stress then he can handle.....but while I was with my bf.....I always forgot he had this disorder, cause he was so "OK", I saw him only as the man I loved....so I shared so many of my troubles. Now, looking back, I know I shouldn't have !!!
Well, 2 weeks we decided to live together...My bf moved in with me. The first week was the best !! I have never felt so loved and cherished and protected in my life. My sons (25 and 28 years old) got along very well with him.....and I was so happy to see the relationship he was building with them...especially with my younger son (who is still living with me). He needed a father figure and my bf was it ! They talked, enjoyed time together...it was so great seeing my men like that ! I thought life was finally being very good to me !
Well, it didn't turn out that way....I have to explain that my ex-husband was still giving me lots of trouble...calling me and screaming, calling my sons and telling them how bad I was ! It got worst when he found out that my bf was living with us. He then began to threaten my bf and I.
I changed the lock on the door, but one night at 3:30 in the morning we are awaken by banging and yelling ! It was my ex-husband wanting to come in....finally after trying to calm him...with no success I called the police. From there I also changed my home phone number.
But by then the damage had been done, my bf....poor sweetheart, had heard and had seen enough !! He used to say to me "I wish I could help" and "your ex-husband is putting you and your sons trhough so much"
A day after the police incident, I saw a change in my bf.....he then said to me that he was unhappy, the reason he gave for his unhappiness was that I lived in a big city, and he is not used to city life. But I felt it was more then that.....I felt an emotional withdrawal from him, he no longer was the man I loved. He then tells me that he is moving out !! Just like that !! with no clear explanation !
I tried reasoning with him...."we can go see your doctor together", "we can move wherever you want", etc....nothing !! Whatever I said to him didn't register...I didn't recognize him at all !! it's as if only the shell of the man I knew remained !!!
He finally left last Saturday, saying he loved me, saying to me "you hate me", crying and shaking and not saying much !! ...it was the most painful thing I had to go through...I thought at the time...but as days go by...It is becoming more and more painful !
Hate him ????....how can I hate him when I adore this man !! Sure, I do hate the situation...and I did try to explain to him...I kept on saying "I don't hate you, I love you" and he kept on saying "you don't love me, you hate me"
What I am getting from this, is that he always wanted to protect me, to make me happy, to see no harm come to me or my sons....and I think that he just believed that he couldn't help...he felt helpless !!! and also very threatened ! (by how my ex-husband was acting).
And of course with all the stress I was giving him, (through my ex-husband) l I believe that I was the cause of his downfall, I think he sees me as the enemy and not as the woman he loves. Because of me, he felt he needed to leave before he reached bottom low ! He said to me that he was returning to 3 years ago (in his mind)...and 3 years ago was his lowest !!
I did speak to him today, he called saying "I closed the joint bank account" (which I knew he would do)....but when I said to him "that is all you have to say???" ..He said "yes"...no emotion whatsoever, it was like I was talking to a stranger !
I am at work, and when he called I just wanted to cry and cry, so I hung up very quickly, went out a bit and called him back. He sounded very calm, emotionless and I said to him "I know I can't push you, I know right now you see me as the enemy and you want to avoid me", but I also wanted to tell you that I love you.....and again he says to me "no, you don't...you hate me".
And I said to him "don't you realize how much you hurt me?" No matter what I said to him...it didn't register, it's as if he is not there !!
I know that I am maybe making things worst !! But I WANT SO MUCH to understand what went wrong !!! Ok, I know why he is doing this, I have read so much about PTSD, to know that it his way of coping...by leaving and avoiding stress !! but it hurts so much, I wonder if he realizes how much he hurt me !!
I get the feeling that he just doesn't care about me anymore, or worst, that he now hates me and can't ever come back to me, because he associates me with his downfall. I am (in his eyes and mind) the person to avoid at all costs.
Please help me, let me know what I should do or shouldn't do !! I am completely torn and I feel lost !! I love him so much, I need him in my life, as I always told him "I can handle anything, but I couldn't handle being without you"
Will he one day realize what he did ? Will he ever come back ?
Sorry, this is so long, but I had to let it out, and this is the only place I can do it...I feel this is the only place that understands !