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I Could Never Understand Suicide Hotlines?!

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Yes totally felt (know) it, especially because here now it's becoming a legal option I could take.

I can only try to describe it this way @cherryblossom , when I think that, my thinking is going in one direction, not wrong but only along one train of thought. For example, if I can decrease the pain only so much, I feel at the end of the rope. So are there ways to increase peace & happiness? (Sort of like the analogy of chemo killing off cancer cells, but rather immunotherapy boosting the immune system). Except that I don't say this as something I 'thought' of, if anything only sunday I realized how much of the grief & pain & fear I carry from shame, & an identity that includes (because of symptom management) a constant reminder of not just the trauma(s) but the aspects of them wherein I think of myself with shame, brokenness, & being 'crazy' & flawed. Fear in the present, inability to imagine a future, fear of the past being disclosed, you name it. A toxic cocktail, these thoughts. I realize that my surroundings are still secondary to the internal pain, but the internal pain & pressure & chaos are mostly the ptsd's lies. If you can recognize the ptsd as a liar, & if we can reclaim some self-worth & leave ALL of this behind (not denial, & we will still have symptoms but 'we' are 'new') then those feelings decrease.

What is difficult is 'trying' to get better we are constantly reminding ourselves of every negative experience & feeling we hold. We almost have to distract ourselves from ourselves.

We did the best we could under the circumstances, we survived (whether we wanted to or not, but we did), & 'it' is over. We start new, we don't have to fight anymore 'within it' (even if our mind's tell us we still are.)

'We' are not (in everyone's eyes) just 'it'.

(I hope that makes sense, I didn't come to such a conclusion just on my own.)
 
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And we have a right to not share personal stuff with people who don't 'get it'. We are more than just a constellation of ptsd symptoms. The people who love you @cherryblossom & @Smile see those other things & love All of you (both). (Even if they too hate ptsd). It's not selfish on their part really it's accurate.
 
Like @cherryblossom says... I think it all comes down to money. Yes, @anthony , I'm sure there are hundreds of different things I/a person can try but
a. that requires money and
b. I don't think my body has the energy to constantly try something new only to be let down again.
You say my thinking is skewed, of course it is. As is yours and every single person on this planet. Everything is relative. But my thinking is sound based on the circumstances I am in now. And I will not get into what the circumstances are. No energy, there are people here that have it so much worse than I do, I don't want a pity party and also... I don't need to justify whether I qualify to feel a,b,c. But I do hear what your saying and I will think about the questions you posed.
Thank you for the lovely message @Junebug :)
 
I tried once and then got terrified and chose to live so suicide is no longer an option for me. I reframed it as a desire so great to escape the pain. I called the ambulance and it was the worst experience of my life. Choose life.
 
@gizmo , i've chosen life... every second of every minute of every hour of every day i choose to live. And every one of those seconds is an uphill battle.
i'm. just. so. tired.

Life for me has just turned into a waiting game. I've tried fighting... but I've been fighting for so long... i don't even know what I'm fighting for anymore.
 
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