I Feel Like A Burden On Myself Now...

[anonymous]

I'd say @mzander hit the nail on the head.

If making the same post every three days with slight variations while ignoring all previous advice isn't the epitome of selfishness, I don't know what is.

 

[mzander]

I'm not trying to win anything here.... so no finger pointing done .... it is not a contest. It was a point of view, you can use it or not, you can meditate after reading it or not.....

But lets take a look at things from a different perspective:

Your brain is like a muscle. Is where your thoughts come from in the first place. They don’t magically transport there.
If you go to gym every day and work a muscle....the muscle grows
because that was your choice to grow a muscle...
And if you grow your brain only complaining?? ...... where that will get you?

MUSCLE ----------------------------------------- BRAIN
Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere. - Albert Einstein


To understand, you must experience - it will keep you busy for as long as you live


Here is a quote that may help anyone struggling from accusations of being “Selfish”.

Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. And unselfishness is letting other people’s lives alone, not interfering with them. Selfishness always aims at creating around it an absolute uniformity of type. Unselfishness recognizes infinite variety of type as a delightful thing, accepts it, acquiesces in it, enjoys it. It is not selfish to think for oneself. A man who does not think for himself does not think at all. It is grossly selfish to require of one’s neighbor that he should think in the same way, and hold the same opinions. Why should he? If he can think, he will probably think differently. If he cannot think, it is monstrous to require thought of any kind from him. A red rose is not selfish because it wants to be a red rose. It would be horribly selfish if it wanted all the other flowers in the garden to be both red and roses.”

― Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man and Prison Writings

 

[anonymous]

@mzander You are making sense there. You have presented a great point of view.

I have impression wisdom doesn't work on OP.

 

[mzander]

Not all forms of depression is selfish, and i can not relate to all forms of depression…being psychically and emotional abused as a child .... maybe you come from Iraq or Afghanistan.... Some people had thing happen to them to make them depressed and it was not a choice they made.

It will be so wrong for me to say that all form of depression are similar ......

 

[joeylittle]

Some people had thing happen to them to make them depressed and it was not a choice they made.

Regardless, depression management does involve at least 50% cognitive work. Personally, I think more like 75% - at least. But for many of us, depression can't get fully attacked without that small bit of medical support, just to clear the head enough to do all the rest of the work.

Selfish isn't necessarily the word I would use, because there are some disorders that manifest themselves by acting out - either against oneself or against someone else. I'd like to see the OP get DBT training because (as I said to her, and by her own admission) she can't control her emotional response to daily life situations. I don't think she is acting out on purpose; I think it's a symptom of her particular disorder.

But I could say "self-fulfilling prophecy", because nothing changes unless we take action to change it, and sometimes people aren't ready to change.

Depression management is really hard work, and it often needs more than just deciding to not be depressed. Clinical support, medical support, therapeutic skills - these things often need to work together. But yes, it starts and ends with the individual being willing to do the work.

 

[Dana1010]

I'd say [DLMURL="https://www.myptsd.com/c/members/29533/"]@mzander[/DLMURL] hit the nail on the head.

If making the same post every three days with slight variations while ignoring all previous advice isn't the epitome of selfishness, I don't know what is.

Um, this forum is a place to vent. I don't think PTSD sufferers should have to worry about their posts being rivetingly original. I for one benefit from reading @J_trustno1's posts because I relate to them and get catharsis from hearing my thoughts and feelings echoed from someone else. Also, to be fair, her posts have become much less angry and more constructive just over the last couple of months, so I don't think you can accuse her of monotony.

 

[anonymous]

Quite monotonous, indeed.

Dana, She has an obsessive mind and cannot let go. She refuses to help herself get out of the obsessions. Its one thing to vent, but when you have obsessive tendencies to the degree that she has, coming on here and venting every 3 days is feeding the disorder. It moves beyond the realm of healthy venting and moves into the area of feeding the monster within. Its sad because she's a smart person in a book smart sort of way. I feel bad that she is letting it get the best of her because she has an inability to see beyond what she knows.

 

[Dana1010]

Interesting, @anonymous. You have the silver bullet for getting beyond our obsessions? I'd like to hear it.