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[Gs172003]

Thoughts??

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[Killashandra]

Hi zoogal ,

This is my husband's goto site when he is having a trigger of such, 17 yrs living with me has definitely put him under a lot of strain and now exhibits many PTSD symptoms .

 

[desiderata310]

calling BS on this one.


The person was exposed to: death, threatened death, actual or threatened serious injury, or actual or threatened sexual violence, as follows: (one required)

Criterion A: stressor

1. Direct exposure.
2. Witnessing, in person.
3. Indirectly, by learning that a close relative or close friend was exposed to trauma. If the event involved actual or threatened death, it must have been violent or accidental.
4. Repeated or extreme indirect exposure to aversive details of the event(s), usually in the course of professional duties (e.g., first responders, collecting body parts; professionals repeatedly exposed to details of child abuse). This does not include indirect non-professional exposure through electronic media, television, movies, or pictures.

 

[Gs172003]

calling BS on this one.


The person was exposed to: death, threatened death, actual or threatene...

That was my first thought. Then I did a search. Apparently alot therapists were seeing PTSD symptoms in betrayed spouses and that's where this started so supposedly there are/ was a study?

Anyway what I was actually looking for how somebody with PTSD handles betrayal. No luck

 

[EmmaOwl]

calling BS on this one.
The person was exposed to: death, threatened death, actual or threatene...

I partly agree with you, that it seems extreme...but what about relationships that are unbalanced? People who are so dependent on their spouse that they think they will die without them? Just a thought.

 

[Friday]

:wtf:

It's nonsense like this that drives me absolutely insane. There's a whole DSM out there. How about NOT picking the one disorder that requires CritA trauma to completely ignore & then pick and choose amongst symptoms? How about a drug induced disorder??? (There were no drugs involved!). Exactly. Just. Like. There. Was. No. Life. Threatening. Trauma. Involved. :banghead: f*cking idiots.

 

[Gs172003]

:wtf:

It's nonsense like this that drives me absolutely insane. There's a whole DSM out there. How abo...

Some of the lists threw me too. Some of it just didn't make sense. And bet it's these articles that's bringing people HERE.

 

[Tinyflame]

I think the big difference is between trauma and (ie versus) horror/ loss of or likely loss of life.

Devastating trauma I've had did not however contain the unimaginable/ out of scope of possibilty (until it occurred) parts of other traumas. JMHO.

 

[Friday]

@Allie D. That would probably fall under an attachment disorder, although possibly a delusional disorder, or even a mood disorder. It would really depend on where their I'll die without them! Is coming from. Those aren't the only possibilities, but they kind of leap out.

I could go on for awhile, but this article says it better than I could
Abusing the Term Trauma



@Zoogal Snort. No lie. "Hypervigilent because afraid of being fooled?" :hilarious: Yeah. I WISH. Here's an interesting snippet -from the above article- comparing betrayal symptoms vs PTSD symptoms

Do betrayed partners have these symptoms? I doubt it. In fact, when I’ve worked with these folks, they show the exact reverse, demonstrating an obsessive, ruminating fixation on the details of their partners’ betrayals and actions. They’re not avoiding these situations or details because it makes them feel awful – no, they’re diving in head-long, beating their partner about the head and shoulders with the details of their betrayal and making this betrayal a central part of their life and relationship.
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Whoops! Also @Zoogal ... Cha. The thing about 'PTSD Symptoms' is that none of them are unique to PTSD. Each and every single symptom is found in other disorders. What makes PTSD it's own disorder? Is the unique *cause* of the constellation of symptoms. So whenever anyone is quoting "PTSD Symptoms" they could just as easily / truthfully be saying "Substance Abuse Disorder Symptoms" or "Anxiety Symptoms" or "Depression Symptoms" or "Bipolar Disorder Symptoms". Or roughly 2/3s of the rest of the DSM. But just like ADHD in the 90s (I've already been through this once :P) PTSD is the "new thing" / the "it" disorder :rolleyes:

 

[Gs172003]

@Allie D. That would probably fall under an attachment disorder, although possibly a...

That is one hell of a good point. I can talk about my husband and his addiction all day. I can't talk about why I'm here. Sooo.... There you go

 

[Gs172003]

I will say I fully disagree with him on the sex addiction part as somebody who has lived with two of them. On that ..he's full of crap.

 

[desiderata310]

dependent on their spouse that they think they will die without them?

Co-dependent and catastrophic thinking does not PTSD make.

There are those out there who think that they might die if they leave their spouse who have PTSD but that's because they've had the living shit beat out of em and they've been gaslighted so long that they can't tell which way is up.