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Identity vs. Ability - Where does PTSD fit in?

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May I ask why you are going to school? Is it for the education only, self esteem issues, or in hopes to work in the future?

I'm just curious because even though I can't work I would like to go back to school. I like the intellectual part of it. The problem lies in that I don't like being around large crowds of people. Otherwise my profession would be a student.

Tammy
 
Hey metis-siren.. how's it going? Well done for setting up the Intake meeting... I think it's brilliant about incorporating your culture into your healing. I think a sense of identity is extremely important, and improving this will only help you feel more able to tackle things, and increase a sense of a 'whole-you'.

Again, you say many things that make me go "that's me!!!"
I think somewhere along the way I forgot what's been going on and how much those stressors really affect me (and how long they affect me). This by no means undermines the role of PTSD in my life, not am I able to say "Next semester will be different."
I'm always forgetting how much PTSD affects my ability to study. I don't know if you already tried this, but when I plan my work, I allow myself "PTSD times"... a few hours a day to collapse if I need to, or at least concentrate on me so I know I'm not neglecting myself through studying (only leads me to meltdown in the end). I also allow 'bad days' when planning my time management... it allows me a sense of security for if I hit a bad problem, or need time out for getting myself on track PTSD wise. I nearly always use up my 'bad days', and I'm doing an assignment at the moment, and have run out of my 'bad days' I kept free for myself, so I need to re-jig how I judge myself and how much time I need... I should have realised Christmas would be worse than other deadlines. But anyway... it's just a thought on helping you manage your workload as someone with PTSD. I know it can take me twice, or thrice as long to do an assignment compared to my classmates because of PTSD interfering.
Last night was semi-productive. I wasn't able to work on the paper itself, but I did research a fair bit and that made me feel like I was doing something. It helped.
Well done... again, it looks like you already do this, but I have recently found an incredibly helpful tip. When the task is too daunting, or I am not in a good space, I do 'mechanical' things... and if I can't do anything mechanical for my assignment, then I'll do it for some other assignment I have coming up. Either way, I know I've not wasted time and have made headway, even if it was only small. I also notice it helps to 'shift' me into the academic mindset. I've just done this myself... the last 2 days I have only managed 'mechanical' tasks on my assignment, but I am noticing that before I've read anything I already have an idea where I'm going with it.
I think I'm finding that every time I get to a point where I question whether or not I can do this (by this I mean academia related activities) and say I can't, I have a day or two where I feel completely void and hopeless, but the strength rises again. Maybe it's not about how many times we fall down, but how many times we get back up?
That's totally me too. In every assignment I do, I collapse all over it for a couple of days. Then something happens, maybe it's panic I don't know, but I get up and just kick it out of me. I think it is how many times we get up, each time i do that, I feel that I have surprised myself because I thought I couldn't do it. Empowerment is so important in anything in life, and I take it where I find it. I also think it's how you deal with things that's important, and I can tell you are preparing yourself, thinking ahead, and trying to judge what will help you rather than waiting until the 'sinking hole'. Good stuff.
Okay, for whatever reason today, I feel the desire to look at journals I wrote when my primary abuse was occurring. I don't know that it's the smartest thing, given that I'm trying to write a twenty page paper in the next few days and prepare for an exam as well but my mind wants to go there.
For what it's worth... this happens to me too. I find I get more symptoms, more triggers, and find myself in places I don't really want to go right in the middle of an assignment. Do I think that's a procrastination issue? No... why on earth would you do that to yourself? I actually think it's stress-related. PTSD gets worse in times of high stress... assignments are stressful, moreso when coping with PTSD... which is why it is so hard to do, and why it takes us longer to do it all. And why allowing yourself the time for when you need to go 'okay, PTSD is playing havoc, need time out to sort myself out' is important. When you're stressed, this will happen. So it's important to acknowledge it, prepare for it, and manage it. I think accepting PTSD affects us, and learning to prepare and manage that, then nothing is impossible. Yes, it may take you longer to complete your studies, it may mean taking on less and thus taking a longer course, or it may mean getting accomodations because of the PTSD... but either way, it's all about perparation and management and always taking into account that you DO have PTSD... you can't and won't be able to do things as quick as others without PTSD. No matter how hard you push yoursef, you just can't... this is all part of how PTSD affects how we function. However... if you can prepare for and manage your symptoms, then you can do it, you'll get there.
I realize this is not do or die for my life, but for my academics right now, if I don't at least get the exam written - I'm screwed.
Just a comment I thought I'd make... this is a good way of thinking. Remind yourself that your assignment is not do or die... as important as it is to you... it's not that drastic. Trust me, I've fallen into the total panic almost as if I thought if I didn't do an assignment on time then everything would be over. No... there's always a way around things, even if it's as drastic as re-taking a subject. But... in the same breath, the reality is, if you don't do that assignment, academically you're in trouble. So for now, concentrate on that... manage your time, manage your symptoms as best as you can, make it your priority to do an assignment without meltdown and everything else can wait. This is my current position too so you are not alone.

Anyway... thought I would drop by to offer my support and helpful tips I use which may help you if you haven't already thought of them....

Lisa.
 
Just giving an update. Haven't been doing so well, waking up in anxiety attacks with dizziness. I don't really like to avoid things, but the anxiety is so pronounced without anything actively triggering it, that I haven't been able to do much more than make sure I eat something and rest. Today I'm off for my first appointment with my new psychiatrist. I don't even remember what a psych assessment entails - I think I may be able to keep it together for the appointment.
 
Well, the assessment went well. I think I will like this psychiatrist. He said it's going to take a few sessions to do a full assessment. He said he thought beyond the PTSD, that I might have Major Depression that's predating my PTSD, as well as an anxiety disorder. The depression I can see - that's been the diagnosis since day one, even prior to the PTSD diagnosis.

I'm surprised how wiped that session left me. It's grazing the surface of over a decade of different types of trauma, and going into some significant detail about some parts, and barely mentioning others. I haven't really done much since that appointment, in terms of school, or otherwise. I know I've got an anniversary coming up in the next few days, and I guess I'm bracing myself and trying to rest up. I don't know if you can rest up for an anniversary, but my mind and body just seem to want some down time right now, and I'm trying to honour that instead of push through it as I tend to.

just tina, I probably would at least tidy up before I had a maid over - I know that seems odd, but I guess thats part of where I'm at. I like to be able to present myself in the best way possible, even if it's not spot on to where I'm at. I will tell it like it is, but I'm very reserved about showing emotions to strangers, or dust bunnies to housekeepers.
 
Still struggling to complete anything academically, and I'm looking back on the past three years and seeing all but the same thing. It would be easy for me to say it was this or it was that. I know it hasn't been easy, and I know I'm dealing with a lot - but at what point do you just throw in the towel?

I've been there, more than once. I don't know you or your situation, but here's what worked for me...

The first time depression hit me hard, and I tanked the semester. I found myself on scholastic probation. The second time PTSD stressors and relationship problems launched me into severe depression... this time I withdrew from the semester, found a therapist and a job... it wasn't too long before I was on the mend and having fun. I returned to school healthier for my final year managed to get work done again. I graduated. My GPA over those 5 years was a roller coaster ride... there were times when I just needed to take a break and recover.

Similar thing happened to me on my crew team. I threw out my back and wanted to be strong and row through it, wanted to stay with the team. I only aggravated it more, re-injuring it. My coach taught me that there was a time to be strong and a time to be smart. He steered me away from the boats, the weights, and rowing machines. I spent the next few months going to rehab, doing stretching exercises for 1.5 hours a day, and running up and down parking garages to stay in shape. I came back healed and strong, and made it to Nationals by the end of the season.

It's a coping mechanism that's served me well in my adult life... perhaps it's an option worth considering?
 
Man! I was so happy to find a thread on struggling with PTSD while trying to get through college! I started back to college while still living in a DV shelter. Try having to discuss the dynamics of the cycle of abuse in a Psych class when you are a resident in a DV shelter!! I didn't make any noise but was shaking and crying the whole class. Finally my prof asked for a voluntary show of hands of those who had experienced domestic abuse...the number of hands was heart breaking. She talked with me after class and I explained my situation to her. She was so supportive and commended me for having the courage to be in college as well as sit through our discussion that day without fleeing the room in tears.

Some people thought it was insane to put even more pressure on myself by going back to school but I had to do something. I have to be able to survive, I never want to be financially dependent on a man AGAIN!! I am hearing impaired, have degenerative disc disease, have a knee that has been operated on 5 times and a bunch of other health issues. Finding work that I can physically handle hasn't been easy. I'm going for a Commercial Art degree, something that I can handle physically. It's been rough though, trying to deal with my symptoms, getting through my divorce, my medical problems etc. etc. I finally got a decent job that I could handle physically in October so now I am juggling that too. I was a wreck last semester! I am cutting back my class load from 5 classes to 3 this semester though. A big problem for me is sleep. I get off work at 1:30am most nights so by the time I get home and wind down...I'm lucky to be asleep by 4am...then I have to get up to go to classes. I toss and turn due to nightmares, pain, and breathing issues due to chronic sinus problems. I wake up feeling like I never went to sleep at all. I've gone to take major tests on the same days I had epiderals in my spine done but on the flip side I've missed classes cuz I just couldn't go beyond being huddled under my covers in a ball crying my eyes out and shaking in my dark room all damn day. My ex has continued to cause me problems and I have had to drop classes due to some of the crap he has pulled! It's rough man, and I have to juggle joint custody of my daughter as well, but I keep trying to tell myself that SLOW GOING IS BETTER THAN NO GOING!!!! I won't graduate as quickly as the kid sitting next to me who is my son's age, who still lives at home with Mom and Dad and has no real responsibilities other than school, but I WILL GRADUATE!!!

I have been fascinated by psych from an early age. My step satan had a degree in social work ( which made him a more effective manipulator and abuser unfortunately ), he had a lot of psych and soc books around and I always found them fascinating. I have aced the 2 college level psych classes I have taken and will be taking a 3rd this semester. I wrestle with changing my major to psych at times so I was poking around on the University of Louisville's site the other night to research maybe transferring there. I ran across a pdf of the Psychology departments newsletter for Dec 07. I found this in it and I cried while I read it.

From the Corner Office: A Holiday Salute to Unsung Heroes

Students who are caring for aging, sick or dependent relatives, as well as themselves, never knowing when they will be needed for emergencies or called with bad news…

Students who are parents, especially those who are single parents with young children, juggling day care, ear infections and “quality time” issues…

Returning students who are rusty in their skills but optimistic and brave, wanting to complete what they started decades ago…

Students who have had to change their majors, career plans and self-images to accommodate unanticipated realities but who keep going…

Mentors, tutors, RA’s, SOS-ers, etc. who give back to their fellows with their time, caring, wisdom and experience…

Students with the sheer guts to study abroad in countries with different cultures, languages and world-views, especially those who live with families abroad…

International students with the sheer guts to come here to study without friends, family, language fluency or cultural support and nonetheless succeed…

Students from families who may not support them financially or emotionally who manage to make it on their own…

Older students with the courage to be in class with tech-savvy youngsters, “learning newer methods with older brains”…

Students who are carrying a full load academically and a full-time job, something that is not supposed to be possible and certainly isn’t “feasible”…

Disabled, chronically ill or emotionally troubled students who carry additional burdens and work twice as hard to succeed…

Student athletes in the “forgotten” sports who train just as hard for just as many hours while carrying full loads but are rarely acknowledged for their commitment and prowess…

Our deployed soldiers who are trying to live two lives at one time and risking it all…

May you reap the rewards you have been working for so hard in the new year to come! I admire and respect all of you immensely.

Alison Sommers
Academic Advisor


I can see myself in there several times, I'm sure the rest of you can see yourselves and situations in there as well. I'm proud of ALL of us for even attempting to get through college while we are dealing with so many other heavy burdens.
 
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