@lostforgottensoul That clarification helps. I understand your intent was different but I read it as comparing too. It actually made me back out of this thread for a bit which is my issues. I have had this experience in other posts from you, where to me it felt like you were comparing. It is good to know I was wrong because I have also found your posts contain a lot of wisdom. Part of the good of this site is we all get to interact in a safe way. Part of human interaction is misunderstanding and learning to understand each other's unique communication style. I am glad to get to know you better
This discussion brought up an interesting thing for me. Yes, the media, doctors, the public over using PTSD is irritating to me, but only in a very small way. I feel like it's one of those things that happens and will pass and it does both harm and good. I roll my eyes and move on. People within the PTSD community (for lack of a better term) seeming to debate whether something is really a criterion A trauma and comparing is very triggering. Again, all of that is just m experience.
There are too many posts, I can't find who said it, but another interesting point to me was the value of having an objective trained outsider, the psychologist or whomever, determine what is criterion A. In my last session I was telling my T about an experience I had. I said I didn't know why I was bringing it up, because it seemed like a small thing. Before I could say more, she pointed out that it met the conditions for the criterion A. It really surprised me. It also relieved me because it is a vivid memory that has stayed with me throughout the years.
I asked if, depending on circumstances, being pressed up against a wall could cause PTSD and
@Friday responded.
It would really depend on what’s happening.
There’s a big difference between some creep cornering you and oozing his so called charm on you, and the threat of real sexual assault. Context matters. A lot.
It’s like, being lined up against the wall. What’s the context? Are you about to be shot against it, or are you being safely secured to be placed under arrest?
Yes, I completely agree. That's why I said it would depend. Back the original question of the post, it just stuck me that this one off mention could be PTSD inducing. And it was barely given a mention by the writers or in the discussion. I do agree that PTSD is generally overused right now. Having said that, trying to decide in any one particular situation is tricky. There's always so much we don't know. If the pressing against the wall was a true threat of sexual violence and known by all the women mentioned, it changes the impact of the verbal abuse. No, I'm not saying it means the PTSD diagnosis is justified. Probably not, but I don't know. What else was going on.
I also think that what sometimes happens is that the press, or others, mistakenly say it caused PTSD when what really happened is it triggered PTSD. As
@Friday mentioned, there's that middle ground. Perhaps someone had a past history of sexual abuse and the verbal sexual abuse is what tipped them over into PTSD. There is so much subtext we will never know unless we are the ones involved in the situation.
