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Is Ptsd Curable?

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@blue-Ocean am I understanding you correctly, that if we focus on the trauma we then have hope of removing PTSD or the systems of PTSD from our daily live?
 
We learn new tools. I hope that isn't for nothing. I do believe we can look back and say, yes this happened to me, but...

I like the idea of hope and working toward a better place. I too believe that with the right tools one can look at the past from a different perspective.
 
Well, lots of changes anyhow, for me, even though it's still there. There is a lot more positive in my life than 35 years ago. I have been getting a stronger sense that when an old childhood coping skill like numbing doesn't seem to be working as well anymore, it's actually that a deep part of me doesn't want to be numb because I've learned to actually like being more connected to various things... actual nice people, for instance, that I've gotten to know well over lots of time. The positive experiences are very helpful in motivating this deeper level; I have been trying to put myself in positive situations, too, since lots of stress can bring the numbing back. The numbing "skill" seems to still be there, though. It used to feel so "normal" that I was surprised when I felt any differently.

So, some deeper level of myself is still choosing when to use these older skills, more of a survival level rather than a surface level... Being aware of this level of stuff is like thinking about a "gut feeling" for me, which is not always accessible. But, the positive experiences over time thing is what I'd identify as a major key for me. It didn't take 35 years to get anywhere, much less, but I seem to keep finding out new things, and actually feel like I might be experiencing more of what some people without some of this stuff experience. I read a great "urban fantasy" book called "The Onion Girl", Charles de Lint. Relevant, wonderful author.
 
It would be nice to entirely cure it, but nonetheless we are 'new' people because of it, different understandings and perspectives and priorities and such. No one can take away any trauma, even the trauma that doesn't result in ptsd. Just move forward, learn to be kind to yourself, we can share kindness or understanding with others. Just as those who survive life-changing events can support those they understand. It's sort of like ending up a little-qualified in something you'd rather not have such a personal knowledge of. But relatable to others, no doubt.
 
Abstract -- I find the section in that article, [DLMURL]https://www.myptsd.com/c/articles/recovery.26/[/DLMURL] , way too brief when it comes to the childhood section. For instance, it doesn't seem to deal with the newer studies that show various brain changes from different types of abuse; serotonin use changes, different "epigenetic" changes compared to trauma experienced as adults, etc. Also the differences in current event processing, like some of us have tendencies to use whatever level of dissociation under stress etc. So, for a lot of us, we need to incorporate ways to deal with these effects into our lives. I guess the article is intended to be short though...
 
@greenleaf @Survivor2Thriver @[DLMURL="https://www.myptsd.com/c/members/abstract.8163/"]Abstract[/DLMURL] @[DLMURL="https://www.myptsd.com/c/members/strongernow.10588/"]StrongerNow[/DLMURL] @Link Removed thank you all for your input. It is nice to come here today and see that hope is out there, that hard work does have a payoff and that there is something better on the other side of this darkness. Today I really needed to read that as it has been a bad day here in the world of Hather. Thank you:shy:
 
I'm going to stay away from the word "cure" and stick with the idea of "healing", a lot of which - in conjunction with what we do to help that along - is a natural process that we are all programmed/designed for.

I'd like to emphasis that PTSD is a group of symptoms, and you don't cure, heal or recover from symptoms. You cure, heal or recover from the cause of the symptom.

It's like having a wound on your arm that keeps bleeding. You can manage the bleeding. You can apply pressure, a tourniquet above it, a bandage, even medication that reduces the blood flow. But if you have an open wound, are you only going to focus on managing the bleeding? When you thought about healing, wouldn't you be thinking of the wound itself?

I think the issue is whether you can heal from trauma, or if you're going to spend the rest of your life dealing with the symptoms of not healing from it (ie PTSD). To me, healing means processing, and it seems from what I see on the forum that many people feell it can be processed only so much and you're stuck with the residue. I strongly disagree. My experience and belief is that we can process and heal the trauma, and therefore our PTSD symptoms will no longer occur. What processing means is covered in other threads here. I don't think it's limited to one or two types of therapy, or even having no therapy at all.

It's interesting to me that when people talk about the only things that have been shown to be "effective" for PTSD - like CBT, exposure therapy, EMDR - often that goes hand in hand with the belief that symptoms can only ever be managed. To me, that would imply that these approaches are perhaps not very effective. My personal view is that some amount of somatic therapy and imagery is needed. In the end, though, whatever therapies are thought to be effective, I think the benchmark for that has to be... 1. how effective and 2. effective with regard to what? Keeping symptoms subdued? This is particularly what I think about when I see stuff about a cure for PTSD, in other words a cure for symptoms. Isn't that phrase self-contradictory?

When it comes to healing from trauma, I have no queries. My view is, yes we can, by processing it. I don't mean endless exposure - there's a lot to consider about processing and how it works, and that has already been covered in other threads here.

Processing and healing from trauma is a whole different thing from "curing" or "healing" PTSD. Personally, I think it's important to stop the bleeding while you work on your arm, but stopping the bleeding is only temporary first aid. You don't plan to be stopping the bleeding for the rest of your life, or having it quieten down then suddenly, unexpectedly rear up again at any moment. You heal the wound.
 
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