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Is There A Point To Continuing Anything Therapeutic That Has No Predictable Schedule?

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I understand @Stephernovas , thank you. :hug:

Well, after an incredibly craptastic and what what feels like a humiliating and most of all devastating day, which I only wish wish wish I could have rewound, wherein, though I was supported by my boss (or so it seemed) I was set up in becoming both the mouthpiece in exposing someone's behaviour and the focus being turned to me as now the 'only' person they do this to (there are many and none showed who said they would, and those there would not say so), and worst yet amidst co-workers who have a relationship with this person out of bounds for 25+ years- and (it gets better :( ), finding out after-the-fact that one is an immediate family member so there goes confidentiality, and on my part having every major trigger button pushed such as SA; work security (income) potentially jeopardized; confrontation; public expression of terribly personal details; wishing for peace and nothing but discord; and feeling like a betrayer, (Etc), I could think of nothing but pulling the plug.

BUT, then I read this, and I thank you @Friday for putting words to my exact brain and living experience, as it is identical , and I too am grateful to you, and thank you. :notworthy: :hug:
 
Oh @Junebug firstly I am so so sorry you were put in that situation. Horrible. And brave you for being the one to speak out. Appalling mess there with the confidentiality and other stuff.?
I can't believe it. After (regrettably) speaking up, many now have come forward to address with my Boss that they too have had the same situation with the same person. Thank-You-God.
Amaaazing! And it may well not have happened if you didn't say something. If one person does it sometimes gives others confidence to do so too. You should be really proud. I hope this improves as a result. Its not acceptable to be in that situation in a work environment. You deserve to be safe. All of you do. It always touches me when people are heard or supported.
 
I came back to add to this after reading another thread, the above post, ^^ , well, if/ when I remember I should have rights to be free of 'stuff' I feel a tiny bit better, thank you to everyone. :hug:

I have read of @Skywatcher 's distress, am just tagging you in case this post is helpful in any way, but I did not want to interfere with your thread.

Though I do not have the transference issue, I can easily say my thoughts or cognitions are very related to the past, especially if triggered or in a full blown panic attack, I'm thinking sometimes (highly affected by my (not) breathing, and that's another part).

But @Friday said in the other thread (hope it's ok to quote):
Kids are very instant gratification. I want what I want, when I want it, NOW!!!

So are people in crisis.

Whether real life vs death crisis, or pseudo-crisis (brain is acting like it’s a crisis when it’s not), or manufactured crisis.

Learning patience? Establishing trust that isn’t based on instant gratification, but real trust? Sucks. No matter what age you are, it’s tantrum land for most people; although whether you throw yourself to the floor and scream and beat your arms and legs on the ground like a 2yo, or throw things and shout lieu of throwing yourself, or lash out at others or self harm? Major tantrums are almooooost always part of the deal.

This is true, I think, even if the response to the tantrum is simply despair, or future avoidance (which comes back to the cognitions/ thoughts/ conclusions drawn). I think it's the perception of so much is unstable, stability is placed on too few legs.

But the real thing is, it's much too about the opportunity to practice what has been learned, instead. To recognize (or not believe, if desired, because choice and rational facts can exist too, but so too do cognitive distortions, which may be 'overcomable', but maybe not, or not-right-now), that the instability/ happening brings up lots of past fear feelings.

But, being even able to recognize that, is a lot, and the place to begin: recognize the feelings/ fear; figure out what I'm feeling/ thinking ; understand how the past causes it; practice managing it; look at distortions; choose if they are distortions or ask questions; make decision(s).

Because, I realized yesterday, (for myself) I would have done things differently. But I had to (chose to) meet someone else's need than my own. I was ok about it, because I changed my own plans. But I knew it was likely I couldn't accomplish my plans today. I chose to roll with it, if necessary. Late yesterday, I was horribly triggered by a stupid song (of all things!! :rolleyes::( ), and in many ways my night (mentally, internally) went off the rails (though it was not noticed; and an infection went rampant I have overnight, as an aside, I realized today). But I knew it/ realized I was triggered, but despite that I couldn't go 'toward' good/ healthy things- except to eat, but even then when I still couldn't sleep at 2 a.m. ate too much, and spicy, felt like h*ll. But, still managed to wake up feeling ~ok-ish, (even woke up though slept through 1 alarm clock) - better than last night- because I knew I was triggered last night and didn't react. Wasn't able to do the healthiest things, but didn't do the unhealthiest, either, last night. And today, when I noticed my thoughts going crappy, I could auto-correct them, a bit. Well no- a lot.

And I thought today, I am ashamed, because, even if not intentional, this ~'trauma-distorted-urgency' doesn't equate to real-life, and others' needs. I expect it's ok for me to have flexibility, etc- why not everyone else? And I want that for them, in fact. Free choice, and rest, and fun. It's part of life, all of our lives. And trust, and stability, by their nature are not single-shot events, well- they can be, and even first impressions mean something, but mostly they're proven/ disproven with time, situations. The thoughts that follow, or conclusions I draw- including judging myself, are what follows and I choose. But not recognizing the former, is mentally unhealthy. Time might feel like it's frozen back then or sucked in to a vortex, but it is not. How can I practice it's "now' if I never challenge how it feels when it feels like it isn't? My brain 'knowing' it isn't the past isn't enough, it feels like it is the past. So, it's more like, how do I do this? Because we always hear: do this, or do that, but the question is how? Well, I think part is getting attuned back to the present, rather than running away from the past.

For example, when it was a very difficult Christmas years ago,, and very scary (though it wasn't at the exact moment I thought it/ no danger), I thought to myself think of 10 things I was grateful for, right now. I think I came up with 7 or 8. For the life of me I couldn't get 10. But I then chose to think, that it was great to get the 7 (or 8). A little pitiful, and undoubtedly ungrateful, but still great. Especially under the circumstances that were (in the) present.

I'm sorry this is so long. :( If I could ever be concise regarding finding words to explain my emotions/ thoughts I think I'd die of shock!! :rolleyes::(

Thank you to everyone.

ETA, I cannot remember for the life of me the title or person (I wish I could!), but somewhere on the forum someone had a thread years ago about how they could, for eg (this wasn't it exactly) ~(now) see the potato on their plate as an opportunity for a new choice, that it didn't have to be a source of a trigger any more, because although it was, they knew why, and could now have the opportunity to chose to think differently about it, and practice that. I think that's not only more healthy, but greatly freeing, and consoling, too.
 
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I came back to add to this after reading another thread, the above post, ^^ , well, if/ when I remember I should have rights to be free of 'stuff' I feel a tiny bit better, thank you to everyone. :hug:

I have read of @Skywatcher 's distress, am just tagging you in case this post is helpful in any way, but I did not want to interfere with your thread.

Though I do not have the transference issue, I can easily say my thoughts or cognitions are very related to the past, especially if triggered or in a full blown panic attack, I'm thinking sometimes (highly affected by my (not) breathing, and that's another part).

But @Friday said in the other thread (hope it's ok to quote):


This is true, I think, even if the response to the tantrum is simply despair, or future avoidance (which comes back to the cognitions/ thoughts/ conclusions drawn). I think it's the perception of so much is unstable, stability is placed on too few legs.

But the real thing is, it's much too about the opportunity to practice what has been learned, instead. To recognize (or not believe, if desired, because choice and rational facts can exist too, but so too do cognitive distortions, which may be 'overcomable', but maybe not, or not-right-now), that the instability/ happening brings up lots of past fear feelings.

But, being even able to recognize that, is a lot, and the place to begin: recognize the feelings/ fear; figure out what I'm feeling/ thinking ; understand how the past causes it; practice managing it; look at distortions; choose if they are distortions or ask questions; make decision(s).

Because, I realized yesterday, (for myself) I would have done things differently. But I had to (chose to) meet someone else's need than my own. I was ok about it, because I changed my own plans. But I knew it was likely I couldn't accomplish my plans today. I chose to roll with it, if necessary. Late yesterday, I was horribly triggered by a stupid song (of all things!! :rolleyes::( ), and in many ways my night (mentally, internally) went off the rails (though it was not noticed; and an infection went rampant I have overnight, as an aside, I realized today). But I knew it/ realized I was triggered, but despite that I couldn't go 'toward' good/ healthy things- except to eat, but even then when I still couldn't sleep at 2 a.m. ate too much, and spicy, felt like h*ll. But, still managed to wake up feeling ~ok-ish, (even woke up though slept through 1 alarm clock) - better than last night- because I knew I was triggered last night and didn't react. Wasn't able to do the healthiest things, but didn't do the unhealthiest, either, last night. And today, when I noticed my thoughts going crappy, I could auto-correct them, a bit. Well no- a lot.

And I thought today, I am ashamed, because, even if not intentional, this ~'trauma-distorted-urgency' doesn't equate to real-life, and others' needs. I expect it's ok for me to have flexibility, etc- why not everyone else? And I want that for them, in fact. Free choice, and rest, and fun. It's part of life, all of our lives. And trust, and stability, by their nature are not single-shot events, well- they can be, and even first impressions mean something, but mostly they're proven/ disproven with time, situations. The thoughts that follow, or conclusions I draw- including judging myself, are what follows and I choose. But not recognizing the former, is mentally unhealthy. Time might feel like it's frozen back then or sucked in to a vortex, but it is not. How can I practice it's "now' if I never challenge how it feels when it feels like it isn't? My brain 'knowing' it isn't the past isn't enough, it feels like it is the past. So, it's more like, how do I do this? Because we always hear: do this, or do that, but the question is how? Well, I think part is getting attuned back to the present, rather than running away from the past.

For example, when it was a very difficult Christmas years ago,, and very scary (though it wasn't at the exact moment I thought it/ no danger), I thought to myself think of 10 things I was grateful for, right now. I think I came up with 7 or 8. For the life of me I couldn't get 10. But I then chose to think, that it was great to get the 7 (or 8). A little pitiful, and undoubtedly ungrateful, but still great. Especially under the circumstances that were (in the) present.

I'm sorry this is so long. :( If I could ever be concise regarding finding words to explain my emotions/ thoughts I think I'd die of shock!! :rolleyes::(

Thank you to everyone.

ETA, I cannot remember for the life of me the title or person (I wish I could!), but somewhere on the forum someone had a thread years ago about how they could, for eg (this wasn't it exactly) ~(now) see the potato on their plate as an opportunity for a new choice, that it didn't have to be a source of a trigger any more, because although it was, they knew why, and could now have the opportunity to chose to think differently about it, and practice that. I think that's not only more healthy, but greatly freeing, and consoling, too.
Thank you!
 
I forgot- that (stupid) song, was just a silly trigger. I proceeded to (eventually) google every artist that produced it (despite myself, not 'intended'- more like 'compelled'),, finally came to one guy who had a version, kind of despairing, really angry. I felt the first, a bit of the second- the overall 'tone' was closer to how I felt. Then I started to google other singers- then heard inspirational/ ~loving / hopeful music- then I thought, the other version of that song isn't even how the song was intended! And I think all of that helped let it go (over me). That, and feeling horribly vulnerable, and trying to think positively. :(

The point here- though I know it's 'silly', just 'me'- is all over a stupid song/ trigger, nothing even ~irl.

I realize this morning writing this, when it comes to irl, if it weren't for others 'helping' I don't think the thoughts break down so easily. Left to my own thoughts/ mindset the conclusions I draw are less malleable (or at least initially), I cannot self-generate contrary thoughts (too easily).

I suppose that partly comes down to the lack of self worth or value I see in myself.

Hugs to you @Skywatcher , :hug: .
 
hey it's not silly at all in my opinion. This past year I had an experience where the color "brown" threw me into what almost seemed like a psychotic episode of reliving my traumatic experiences as an 11 year old. It's just the color brown, right? No, that color of brown had a significant meaning to my brain. So, It's not a stupid song. It has a meaning to you. I have found in going after my healing from this ptsd shit that so many seemingly "small things" have giant-sized meaning. The human mind is VERY symbolic. I think that's why dreams can be very healing if we pay attention to them. The key is to pay attention to the trigger and what it means and not run like the wind screaming -- or eat the entire bag of reseece's pieces, and drink too many marqueritas! (or self harm, the list goes on and on)
 
@hithere I wanted to come back to add, thank you for the encouragement, it really means very, very much.. maybe towards some ~sort of self-compassion/ ~semi self-forgiveness thing- not sure of the words. Thank you, anyway. :hug:

I realize too, it helps me to 'feel' I have a back-up plan, of sorts. Though it's still up to me.

Ps, heard that song again- thought this time, "It should be banned!", lol. But, that was all. Tuned my ears and heart out. :)
 
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