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Is This A Form Of Dissociation?

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Yes, what you describe is a lack of boundaries and possible codependency. Codependency is when a caretaker takes on too much in order to remain with an addict. However, it can exhibit if someone is an adult child of an alcoholic and they still carry out the same behaviors from the addict/codependent dichotomy.

I think choosing to devote one's mission to family and being codependent are two different things. One is a deliberate giving and taking whereas the other is not conscious in that way, and is allowing bad to happen in the name of "the relationship."

Your choice to break a pattern is likely a very good move. I encourage you to keep going. Good on you to look at other family models and find what is going to work for you.

Muse
 
I have a question with you, which I will follow up on with my psychiatrist, though I don't really see it as being a big factor to my health.

People who have 'alters' seem to always have names for them. Sometimes I get up in the morning, and I think, "Today I am Simon." Simon and Adrian were two girls I created to represent the binary between my introvert and extrovert characteristics, but I made them consciously for this purpose.

Simon is shy, modest, mousy, incredibly smart, very verbal-mathematical (probably my strongest traits academically), extremely introverted/reclusive, depressed, obsessive, emotionless outside of general melancholy, rational, androgynous in appearance, emaciated (yet always talking about health, and she's a vegan, which I have been on and off), and wears clothes three sizes too big for herself. Adrian is promiscuous, an addict, voluptuous, arrogant, wildly artistic (Simon writes, Adrian paints), very wrathful and unforgiving, confident, strong, completely extroverted, emotionally indulgent (too expressive, too easily swung), traditionally beautiful, and likes to dress up and go out a lot.

Simon believes that her only worth is in her mind. She doesn't understand sensations well and is always in her head. Her only forms of externalization are self-mutilation and her writing, which she writes in charcoal all over her bedroom walls (Simon's room and where I kept my bed look very similar--notebooks and pens littered everywhere, punctuated by novels. Adrian sleeps on a couch.) so that she can write them down where they belong later (Simon is organized in a disorganized fashion. Adrian is actually neat, a homemaker). Adrian believes that her only worth is in her body. Her art is a form of expression for her, but otherwise she does everything to numb and evade her thoughts and feel good instead. She goes out and sees friends, a lot of people know her, but there is substance and meaning missing to her life outside of her art (which is usually sexually violent). She is strong and confident, but only because she isn't addressing anything in her life, just tossing it out and basing her life on survival, and her emotion snowballs unnecessarily, whereas Simon has self-control to a fault. I imagine you catch my drift.

So, when I am preparing for my day, I usually pare myself down mentally, particularly when getting ready to leave the house, into one of these two girls. I even have sweaters (all way too big for me) that I think of as Simon sweaters. I am distressed by looking anything more than plain when I am Simon. When I am Adrian, I look unusual to myself without eyeliner or if what I'm wearing isn't tightly fitting enough. Sometimes I will dress as one or the other in the morning and by noon I feel like I'm crawling out of my skin because I've switched to the other. Generally, Adrian goes to parties for me, greets guests, and steps in to interact with aggressive men or groups of women. I embody Simon when I'm going to class, doing homework, going to a work or meeting, and when I'm at professional functions (conferences, volunteer work, etc.). If you asked me at just any random minute who I would want to call myself, I may say Sam or even some of my evil characters, but in general, particularly at the beginning of the day and during my time out of a comfortable environment (my home, my fiance's parent's home), I can categorize myself as distinctly Simon or distinctly Adrian.

But it all seems too deliberate to be a form of dissociation. Compartmentalizing? Being theatrical? I did a lot of acting throughout my childhood onward and tons of writing. I've always assumed that thinking of myself as characters was a byproduct of being a writer who never let go of playing pretend in inappropriate situations (like, you know, life in general).
 
This is not fully in my scope of understanding, but it's fascinating as a lifestyle choice or just as you say to be expressions of yourself. I asked my PA/Psychiatrist about DID and she said that the Psychiatrist who she assists "doesn't even believe DID exists," but Jody does, because of the wealth of info on it and since she's personally seen at least one patient "switch" before and fully believes it's possible, the total full on Multiple Personality thing in which one personality doesn't even remember what the other one(s) did.

She said that there is no medication for it, but that the anti-anxiety meds could make it worse or cause the alters to come out and do dangerous things. So she said to watch for that or use low doses, which I already do.

I'd like to learn more about Dissociation, even though apparently it is not fully accepted by the phyciatric community. Even the lesser forms, like numbing or tuning out, may be controversial. For me, this is stupid, as I have lived it. If you learn some about it, I'd be interested in what you find out. Thanks for sharing, Muse
 
The only meds I've ever taken was a mood stabilizer. It actually made me feel cohesive, not back and forth.

I go through radical artificial highs and depressive lows, but not in a bipolar way, in a weird patterns of evasion and breakdowns, really. But my breakdowns usually manifest as first swinging emotions and then in no emotions. If I could graph it, I would make a graph for throughout the day, throughout the month, throughout the semester, a graph for breaks, and a graph for full years. They can all be broken down into macro and microcosms of the same behavior. I have extroverted years where I go through more extroverted periods that generally involve a lot of alcohol, not a lot of sex because that's really not who I am, but a lot of dancing with the devil with dangerous and unstable guys, but within the smaller compartments of the year I have various smaller-scale periods of ups and downs. It's hard to describe.

The mood stabilizer makes at least my daily/weekly emotions much easier to deal with, and my monthly emotions are not as ranged and split. I haven't taken it long enough to see if this extends further. I just got back on it last week. >.< Actually, I think my psychiatrist mentioned that specifically anti-depressant and anti-anxiety meds could end up pretty poorly for someone suffering my symptoms. He thought I needed something that would just smooth it all out. I don't understand the science at all, or little. My fiance was actually on this medication for bipolar.
 
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