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kind of on autopilot when it comes to suicide actions planning etc

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Can I ask why not?

If you’re hitting rock bottom, what do you have to lose? You could try something that really turns your life around and makes a huge difference.
 
If you’re hitting rock bottom, what do you have to lose? You could try something that really turns your life around and makes a huge difference.
The only thing that has kept me alive through some very heavy suicidal periods has been medication.

I'm not thrilled with it. It doesn't lift my mood at all, it just keeps the bottom from completely bottoming out. Many of the drugs that will do that when things are very very bad - they have side affects that I don't like, don't want to live with or tolerate. And I end up feeling very angry that I'm taking this medication and it's just keeping me alive, but it's no kind of life.

What I do truly believe, though, is that if that's what it takes to give myself even a shred of a chance, then it's better than not trying at all. I don't want to give up - it's just every single thing in my brain telling me that giving up is all that's left.

You talked about this in an earlier post, wondering if you can listen to that voice.

Best advice I've got for that is: you have to accept that your assessment of your current reality is incredibly f*cked up. When depression is very bad, it makes it hard to have a thought that isn't just riddled with depression.

I know how stubborn I am about the things I'm NOT willing to try. And I think about those things alot.

Stronger drugs
ECT

I really do understand not wanting to get into the drugs and the hospitals again.

If you're not concerned about metabolic changes or weight gain, I'd really suggest you look into Abilify, Lamictal, and Lithium. You'd not take all of them together - they are just three of the strongest and most effective depression regulators. I've taken the first two, and they did both make the bottom less horrible. And still, I feel like I'd rather die than take them again. So I don't want to be a hypocrite here.

But if I were on the edge of accomplishing suicide or trying those things again, I've GOT to consider trying the things. I can always learn that they don't work and then go back to the planning. But executing a plan without trying is taking an opportunity off the table, the chance to find a liveable life.

ECT would probably help. It helps many, many people. I'm simply too afraid. But it's what I think about, every day, now. I'm terrified of how my trauma history would make the process more terrifying, I don't have any human support at all (which is terrifying), and the potential of damage to my mental function is also terrifying. I'm not using that word lightly at all. It's a fear that paralyzes me.

Still - I know I don't have any good reason for why I'd kill myself before trying something that could not only relieve this horrible pressure, the pressure to stop this charade of being alive - but could also actually lift my mood, not just slap a band-aid on it.

If you can do one thing, and one thing only - to cope - let it be to accept the truth that your thoughts are ill. This is an illness. That's not an excuse, it's just a fact. It's the fact that means - the desire to die is not a real one. Even though it seems like it is. It's just not.
 
Hearing you @AJ45 .
ive been hospitalized before multiple times
What were the nature of these admissions? i.e. were they short admissions to ED or were they a longer stay in an acute mental health unit?
and if so what did you do that helped?
I talk to people; people in "real life" or people on here, and tell them what is going on.. That I'm feeling suicidal, or self harming, or having thoughts that feel like they're starting to get out of control.

(My depression hates this because it knows they're going to help to keep me safe.. but I know there must be a small part (even it's the teeniest most minute, barely even visible part) of me that wants to live, because I reached out to them, right? Just like you have here ? )

I do something to distract myself - go for a walk, or watch YouTube, or play with my bird.

I make sure I've eaten and had some water because often those things get so neglected when I'm feeling suicidal, and they definitely impact my mental state too.

And yes, like others have mentioned, medication has helped me too.


It does get better, I promise.
5 months ago I'd just been admitted to a psych ward after a suicide attempt. I never thought I would ever feel anything remotely close to OK. I thought I would attempt again as soon as I was released, but I haven't. And you what, I'd have to say in this moment that I'm pretty pleased that I lived through it.
 
when you have gone through most trauma by age of three that most dont even go through till much later its complex. you hear your whole life things will get better and you do everything your suppose to to make things better but nothing does its like a joke
We have had similar backgrounds. I get what it is like when you have been told that things will get better, and you do it all, and still you struggle. I get that level of being pissed off.
 
Right. I hear you, I totally do. This is depression-brain. It’s very real, it’s a constant battle.

But again, you will get improvement. It took me years. I didn’t buy the “it really will improve” line for a long, long time. But it did happen. And it will for you as well. Remind yourself of the small wins you have each day.

its feels like im running out of time.

Hearing you @AJ45 .

What were the nature of these admissions? i.e. were they short admissions to ED or were they a longer stay in an acute mental health unit?

I talk to people; people in "real life" or people on here, and tell them what is going on.. That I'm feeling suicidal, or self harming, or having thoughts that feel like they're starting to get out of control.

(My depression hates this because it knows they're going to help to keep me safe.. but I know there must be a small part (even it's the teeniest most minute, barely even visible part) of me that wants to live, because I reached out to them, right? Just like you have here ? )

I do something to distract myself - go for a walk, or watch YouTube, or play with my bird.

I make sure I've eaten and had some water because often those things get so neglected when I'm feeling suicidal, and they definitely impact my mental state too.

And yes, like others have mentioned, medication has helped me too.


It does get better, I promise.
5 months ago I'd just been admitted to a psych ward after a suicide attempt. I never thought I would ever feel anything remotely close to OK. I thought I would attempt again as soon as I was released, but I haven't. And you what, I'd have to say in this moment that I'm pretty pleased that I lived through it.

thank you for telling me you sound amazingly strong and it just feels like i dont have the strength anymore. i dont have the fight in me like i use to

they were shorts stays frist one was county as school counselor sent me, second time went to er ended up 5150d and sent to psych ward which i inadvertently got hurt well there had to get face glued back together(irony that one gets hurt in place where suppose to be safe)

We have had similar backgrounds. I get what it is like when you have been told that things will get better, and you do it all, and still you struggle. I get that level of being pissed off.
im not even mad i expect it as its the norm in my life

The only thing that has kept me alive through some very heavy suicidal periods has been medication.

I'm not thrilled with it. It doesn't lift my mood at all, it just keeps the bottom from completely bottoming out. Many of the drugs that will do that when things are very very bad - they have side affects that I don't like, don't want to live with or tolerate. And I end up feeling very angry that I'm taking this medication and it's just keeping me alive, but it's no kind of life.

What I do truly believe, though, is that if that's what it takes to give myself even a shred of a chance, then it's better than not trying at all. I don't want to give up - it's just every single thing in my brain telling me that giving up is all that's left.

You talked about this in an earlier post, wondering if you can listen to that voice.

Best advice I've got for that is: you have to accept that your assessment of your current reality is incredibly f*cked up. When depression is very bad, it makes it hard to have a thought that isn't just riddled with depression.

I know how stubborn I am about the things I'm NOT willing to try. And I think about those things alot.

Stronger drugs
ECT

I really do understand not wanting to get into the drugs and the hospitals again.

If you're not concerned about metabolic changes or weight gain, I'd really suggest you look into Abilify, Lamictal, and Lithium. You'd not take all of them together - they are just three of the strongest and most effective depression regulators. I've taken the first two, and they did both make the bottom less horrible. And still, I feel like I'd rather die than take them again. So I don't want to be a hypocrite here.

But if I were on the edge of accomplishing suicide or trying those things again, I've GOT to consider trying the things. I can always learn that they don't work and then go back to the planning. But executing a plan without trying is taking an opportunity off the table, the chance to find a liveable life.

ECT would probably help. It helps many, many people. I'm simply too afraid. But it's what I think about, every day, now. I'm terrified of how my trauma history would make the process more terrifying, I don't have any human support at all (which is terrifying), and the potential of damage to my mental function is also terrifying. I'm not using that word lightly at all. It's a fear that paralyzes me.

Still - I know I don't have any good reason for why I'd kill myself before trying something that could not only relieve this horrible pressure, the pressure to stop this charade of being alive - but could also actually lift my mood, not just slap a band-aid on it.

If you can do one thing, and one thing only - to cope - let it be to accept the truth that your thoughts are ill. This is an illness. That's not an excuse, it's just a fact. It's the fact that means - the desire to die is not a real one. Even though it seems like it is. It's just not.

its like i dont have control i try to but my actions tell me ive lost control. and i understand im at point where i will end up accomplishing so i def understand what you are saying. i know they are my actions but they dont seem like they are like im unaware at the time

Can I ask why not?

If you’re hitting rock bottom, what do you have to lose? You could try something that really turns your life around and makes a huge difference.


i undrstand what your saying

these days i scare myself it scares me that in a away although im not directly saying oh im going to kill myself tonight in this way before things happen like lawst night, but that its happening "accidently" and i know im pushing the limits to "accidently"push them to point of no return
 
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it scares me that in a away although im not directly saying oh im going to kill myself ... its happening "accidently" and i know im pushing the limits to "accidently"push them to point of no return
I really encourage you to reach out and get assistance. I would passionately suggest that hospitalisation, and medication is the way to go.

Whatever you do, please keep posting.

Thanks for being so honest.

its the norm in my life
Me too!
 
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thank you for telling me you sound amazingly strong and it just feels like i dont have the strength anymore. i dont have the fight in me like i use to
You sound very strong yourself, truly. It's harder to see it in ourselves, I know.

I second @Living in the 70s , please reach out to a crisis service if you feel yourself getting to that place.
We really do care about you, and your safety.

It does get better. I promise. It's not just a thing that happens to other people. And you deserve to find out what that feels like.
 
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