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Sufferer Losing Time And Re-experiencing Events Again

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Unstabletime

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Hello, I like to share and introduce myself here. I am Tom, 26 years from Holland and got a disturbing case of losing time.
I lose about 10 months to a full year. And once I lost a year, I have to redo things all over. Yeah even the episodes of losing time, also reoccur around the same dates. But they have no warning sign.

I have been talking with my T about this. And got prescribed Zyphrexa. The medicine didn't quite helped.
Since I figured out that this was as well a re-experience. Since it already happened. Yet I was able to experience it like its just a normal day. I asked my T whether he knew I went there before to talk about this problem.
But my T told it was the first time. This made me uneasy, since I knew for what I can recall that it couldn't be the first time. And on, I continued on with different therapy with my T. These therapy sessions weren't giving me answers. And I quit going to my T.

Several months passed by and I contacted a different T. And I talked about my issues with time. Since I couldn't even explain it to my old T, I put down my problem as having Dejavu problems. And with this I thought probably I would get some answers. Fair enough, I got directed to yet another T.

I went to my new T, specialized in neurological problems. And explained some of my symptoms of my problem. It basically came down to a job I did in the past. And around that date is where I always return to when I go back in time, about a year back. And losing everything I currently have, and be back in the past, with all the things I had at that time. This is very frustrating, and I told this to my T. It took my new T some time to understand what I said. And after they had discussed it with their team. It came down to it being a neurological circuit that was being repeated over and over.

Normally when a person picks up information they first see it, then compare it to the information that was known, and then there is a conclusion taking place. That is how my T explained it.

In my case it was a bit different. And I pick up information differently. First I compare information to the information that is known, then I see it, and last make a conclusion. In this way I would be seeing something that was already present in my memory, since what I see is directly tied to a memory already happened.

I understand that part so far. What I don't understand is that on a very sudden day I go to bed and sleep, then the next day I would somehow be 10 months up to a year being back in the past. I don't understand what that could have to do with the memory still being the same. So far it looks like there is a pattern that is followed somehow. But I cant grasp what it is. The only thing I know is that although I go back to the past, in a real experience, there is no warning, it just happens Yet the dates I would be jumping to (are certainly fixed), and from (not that sure being fixed, I only assume being fixed) are both fixed dates.

It is annoying that events after going back are the same that I already went through. It can be anything for those events. News on tv, internet, newspaper, all those things are with the exact same events as they happened back then.

Apart from this, I have been searching around on the net. Because the above mentioned problem is at this moment an endless cycle that keeps on repeating itself. I haven't found a way out. I found out that by searching on losing time (using google), that I came to dissociative identity disorder.
Since dissociative identity disorder is in many cases with some history of a trauma. Yet if a trauma is not mandatory for what I experience. I much wonder what could be happening to me.
One of the trauma's that I can say that could be involved somehow is the one with my father.

The relation with my father is distant, I did liked to have some time spend with him. But I always get feeling that I just don't need to. My father is organized and discouraged when things don't happen as they should happen. And the way how he tells me is by putting guilt on me when I didn't do things right. And says I should better look to what I do, also in regards to this, there is and was back when I was younger always punishment involved when things didn't went well. Instead of telling how things should be done without putting guilt on me.

And allowing me to learn without feeling being a victim of something. His dominance can a lot of times not work right for much of the situations. And makes me have quite some discomfort. Like he forgets he got a son. Though to see the perspective well. My father works with people that have had fights, and having money problems, arguments. Which comes down to a social worker. Due to his work, he cant say so much about his work day. And that is quite disturbing. As things are so secretive around him. This ruins a lot of the bond I have with him. So much liking it to be freely said. But it sadly cant.

I found the forum here, and thought that maybe with my symptoms of dissociation I could find some help.
Help with coping, and somehow I like to know why I lose time and go back again and again to the same period. And after going back relive all those moments time and time again.
Yet when going back I can't ever seem to see any warning sign that such dissociation moment is about to occur. This makes me unsure what is real. Am I really where I am? Shouldn't I be a year or about 10 months ahead by now? I wonder about my "future" person. Did I just lost so much of my life, and I got the memory of it, yet people around me say its just this and that date. Somehow my surrounding is unaffected by what I experience. Which hurts the most. As there is little recognition.

While I am suffering from this, I have been thinking about finding a partner or close friend and to break the cycle of the ever ongoing losing of time. By having somehow a new experience that is not part of anything that I have already experienced. I just don't know who to go after. As at some point I do will point out about my problem of losing time and going through cycles of events I know that have happened earlier.

Thanks for reading.
I'm happy to see what info I can find about my problem.

Tom

Ps: I heard in some thread that one named by Anthony has a thread called Dissociation explained. Searching on this site using the search function didnt gave a result for me. Perhaps I am successful to verify my symptomes there. Still, if one has some thoughts about my condition or wishing luck, that be welcome.
 
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Welcome, Tom.

Did you look at the Wiki? You could also try to search, using the option to restrict the search only to titles. I find search sometimes returns nothing, then if I change it a bit even using the same words, I get results.
 
I'm not entirely sure if what I experience is some form of dissociation. The kind of symptom that is related is a feeling of being out there. I wasn't able to find any information that could tell me what could cause me to lose time repeatedly. I tried the wiki. While it did gave some information about dissociation I wonder what is going on around with me. And how to deal with it.

I tried mindfulness. But what I suffer from is just real bad, since all I would try already happened. Unless I have no recollection about doing it, which is quite harder, since at times, I recall things of the future.

I first want to get a better idea whether its dissociation. My doctor calls it some Memory lag. Yet I don't know how to cope with it.

So that would mean it is an endless reality this way, and due to the nature of what I suffer I can live endlessly, but only experiencing things I already know. Which is not really a way I like to live. That's why I wonder what people think.
 
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This sounds a lot like what is going on with me. My T just didn't quite get it till I hit him with some evidence proving my point. He still don't quite get it. Anyways I can't figure out how to pm and don't really like posting in public. If you can pm me I think we would have a lot to discuss. If I'm following you correctly.
 
Hi Tom,

Welcome to MyPTSD forum! :)

It is pretty common for people who suffer trauma to lose time, but most of the time it is on a continuum basis. I am not any expert or trained mental health professional; but from my own personal standpoint, if I was experiencing what you described I would consult a psychiatrist and a neurologist.

I hope you find the information here helpful to finding some of the answers you are looking for.

Take care.

Debbie
 
I have consulted a neurologist which told me it was a neurological circuit inside my brain that causes events I have in my memory to replay. Which somehow causes the behaviour that when I see events or am deciding things, that these would be events that already took place. At this time, I think out loud, thinking that when I lost time and went back to the period in which I had a hard time, that I can conclude that I go back to times where there was a tough time for me.

I spoke with this with my neurological T and with my psychiater both are soon discussing about the problem I am faced with.

My neurological T did understand that there has to be a trigger that causes me to lose time.

And whatever the trigger is, it will most likely be related to an event that happened way back 10 months to a year back.

I dont know so much what happened about 10 months back. I do know that I went back there when it was nov 2013. The thing that happened about a year back was after I was jobless in an unusual way. They shortened my contract and took 1 day off my contract, and as such I was actually jobless 1 day too early. I did went to work that day, when I actually had no job. And after they figured it out. They brought me back home. Which was an odd experience for me.

I asked them why they didnt tell me. And they told they make mistakes too. It felt really bad.

This is hard to understand for my neurological T and psychiater, yet they can understand that it must be something that caused the trigger.

My moments of losing time is rather in a particular period. And very suddenly without warning. Even though it is periodical, it still causes me to go back to an earlier moment and have to relive everything included those periods of losing time aswell again.

Yes midknight8273 I pm you and we talk about it. It is nice that I find someone who has similar or same problems to deal with.

Im curious. Thanks for allowing the opportunity.

If certain other people have some insights into my state of losing time, then I welcome you to express your thoughts.
 
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Unstabletime,

I hope your doctors soon find what is causing this to happen to you.

From what you say about the shock of your work making a mistake, I would ask you if you expect adults to be perfect. Maybe this experience underscores a perception that you didn't realize you had.

You are reflecting upon your own perceptions. This is good, and such learning will eventually lead you to a much clearer understanding of yourself. It takes time and good support.

This forum and good therapy from good, trauma-trained Doctors and therapists will be helpful if PTSD or trauma is the cause.

Welcome!

Muse
 
Muse, to me it was a disturbing moment that at work they didn't inform me well about the end date. While it was right in their database and on paper. It's something I do have some struggle with. Since to me, I find it even unacceptable to think that "yes, they can make errors". And then, leave it at that. I still have a struggle with this, but more like, what if a similar experience comes around the corner.
One where I come to a situation where an adult makes a mistake, and I am telling them that I don't think its a valid mistake because they could know. And then after I would dissociate because I can't deal with that situation. Which then leads me to lose real time, and even amnesia. Which brings me back up to a year back. And I can't return back, somehow due to the situation being to stressful.
Think out loud here.
 
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Unstabletime,

I can see that the stress of the work mistake was a huge trigger for you. I can confirm that has happened to me, when I was treated badly by a coworker and had to report it to HR. I found out that he was also mistreating his own supervisor or boss. He was soon forced to leave our work. He got a job elsewhere.

I sometimes forget that that, combined with financial stress and having a challenging child, had added up to much too much stress for me 2.5 years ago, when my PTSD got really bad. It's been 2.5 years, and I still feel the aftershock of it.

But I do feel much better now, and have felt much better for over a year. Many good people on this forum have helped me.

If you check in and share your troubles here on the forum, you will find people can be very kind and helpful. :)

Things will probably continue to stabilize and improve for you now that you are aware of the issues. Getting good diagnosis, managing medications that help, and eating and sleeping and getting calming, stimulating exercise outdoors is so good for us. Also, limiting disturbing images from media is helpful. Try to surround yourself with positive and good messages and images.

I use aromatherapy and have a routine to watch calming TV shows only at night. I take two medications that help me to sleep without nightmares, and I feel much stronger now. More like myself.

See if you can take very good care of your body and mind, and you can see how much better you can feel each day.

Do you now have a good doctor and therapist? Do you have a good friend to listen to you and respect you?

Muse
 
About losing time. Yes, that is dissociation for most people with PTSD. Not everyone with PTSD experiences dissociation, but many do. There are even some medications or poisons that can cause people to dissociate.

You can get therapy for that, and it can be linked to the emotions, a stress trigger response. For some of us, just feeling angry can cause a time of dissociation. Feeling hurt or betrayed can make me lose time. I feel time goes faster and I sort of can't move or make myself act as I want. Usually, this takes about 30 minutes, I have noticed, to improve to where I see what's happening and can take action.

When you pay close attention, you can start to be more aware and in control again.

Muse
 
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