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I have taken ecstasy my lifetime limit of times and it didn't get rid of the violence for me, unfortunately. If you do e enough times it stops working. At this point I can have it and shake with anxiety and cry the whole trip. Whoops.
 
Yeah, that's not the optimal experience is it?

I guess it doesn't work for everyone then, but it has worked for some. I don't think it 'gets rid of the violence', but for these people, it certainly showed them another way of dealing with conflict, which they found much more intelligent and aligned with how they would prefer to deal with conflict.

The violence is always going to be there, but you can learn new ways of communicating that will likely have a better outcome than what you are used to.
 
There's some promising work being done with MDMA and PTSD (among other things), but I think very little of that progress is happening by people just ingesting ecstasy. As you and others have discovered, it can have a downside, one that needs to be managed if it's going to have a chance of actually helping long-term. It's the kind of thing that needs to have a proper therapist-guide to frame the experience. A 'trip sitter', but one who is also trained to navigate the complex waters of the human psyche.

MAPS.org is a nonprofit that has been doing research in psychedelics for the last 25 years, they have a current study for MDMA and PTSD that is the only scientific research being done at the moment on the subject. it doesn't let me post links yet here, but Google will provide. ("maps mdma ptsd" should do it)
 
There was a thread about this subject a while back. Anthony disputes it completely, but I know at least one counsellor who uses MDMA in her sessions with clients, and has reported great results and much progress.
 
given that the science just hasn't really been fleshed out, I think it's premature at a minimum to dismiss MDMA and other psychoactive drugs as tools for addressing mental health issues. Better to have the research than not, especially given the people like the counsellor you mentioned who have had success with it. Of course it won't work for everyone or all conditions, but it could work for some, and that's enough to warrant further study IMHO. In any event, MAPS has been pursuing this study for years, and they are not about to give up on it now. Their other studies are also of interest, but the MDMA study (IIRC) is one of the more developed ones.
 
Sure. I think it works well with some because it helps to open the heart long enough for the person to feel connected to everything, and that feeling of love lasts long enough for the person to really go into their feelings and talk about stuff in a safe environment, which has previously not be something available to them.

LSD was designed for use in therapeutic context as well. It worked for some and not for others and many psychologists have taken it to help understand the psyche more.

Allen Ginsburg swears he overcame schizophrenia through the use of LSD, and a woman in my class claims it totally cured her depression...though it's more likely that it helped her step out of her thoughts long enough to recognise that there was life outside the big black cloud she had become consumed by and started working towards that and putting her focus on things that uplifted her instead of brought her down.
 
I put up a you tube vid about ecstacy, in the education section of the Media category, if anyone is interested in learning more about it's use in the context of recovery and therapy.
 
Yep. AA founder Bill W. was a big proponent of LSD for treating alcoholics, wanted to hand it out at AA meetings, which of course went over with the rest of AA like a lead balloon. He felt it helped him eliminate many barriers erected by the self, or ego, that stand in the way of one's direct experience of the cosmos and of God.

I find that interesting because I think PTSD sufferers share some challenges with addicts of alcohol, opiates, coke, etc., in that in each case there is an emotional wound at the root of either the addiction or the PTSD. With addiction it's usually (in my understanding) related to a lack of love or imagined lack of love from one parent figure or the other, creating an emotional hole that they are always either trying to fill, or merely distracting themselves from its emptiness. With trauma survivors, the trauma experience delivers a shock to the mind and body, creating an emotional wound that doesn't seem to heal, like shrapnel that stays in a wound once it's healed over on the surface.

Here is where I make the specific distinction between 'mental illness' (which implies a long term, systemic dysfunction) and 'mental wounds' (which imply a short-term kind of damage that can be repaired). I find that this is a very clarifying way to look at psychological issues, which are all lumped into 'mental illness' and treated as such - with daily medications, therapy, support groups, and other things one uses to manage disease on an ongoing basis. However, if the illness itself springs from a mental wound, the 'illness' manifestation is really a symptom of a larger underlying problem, and treating the wound becomes more important than managing the illness.

It seems to me that under therapeutic guidance, these (including but not limited to MDMA and LSD) have the potential, each in their different ways, to treat the wound. For this reason, I will be watching the results of the MAPS research very closely over the next many years. Someone's gotta map the territory and see how far down the rabbit-hole goes.
 
I find cannabis to be helpful with my PTSD symptoms as well, mainly it mellows out my anxiety and tends to make me more motivated and thus functional. Main issue with it is not being able to afford it, or at least enough to use on a regular basis.

I would really prefer it to anything, right now they have me on clonazepam. Its .5 mg for twice daily and well so far I've found it takes two to have much anti-anxiety effect, so I will run out before the next appointment, may need to call the doctor and see if she can increase it.

It's so much easier with marijuana.
 
Me too I love it :)
there was an interesting programme in the UK last week on using MDNA as therapy for PTSD, did anyone see it?
Saffy
 
This has got to be THE funniest thread I've ever seen!

I recommend cutting back if it's illegal. Start trying to taper off gradually so you don't feel too much withdrawal, and find other coping skills. I think it's unhealthy for the coping process, and if/when you do get off it, you won't be breaking the law anymore.
 
There's some promising work being done with MDMA and PTSD (among other things)

HI LC23,

Good post, in fact Channel4 in the UK have done two episodes on this very thing, with a 'trip sitter'! I haven't watched it yet, no sure how I feel about it yet, bit close to home. It's with Jon Snow and the 'guinea pigs' are non ptsd'ers I believe. If you go to 4od (it means on demand....no puns intended!) its in the documentary section, its called 'Drugs Live: The Ecstasy Trial'.
 
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