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Misery Thread... Bloody Bloody Hell!

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Basically: wot 'Wife of' sed!

And the others...

And I kinda like the idea of calling myself a "harpy" :)

Sounds to me like you're asking a lot of yourself and also that you're maybe setting your standards too high for now?

Like, going for a pizza in a crowded place, being stuck with your back to the door... that would seriously bother me, I know.But you demand of yourself that you do everything as normal? Tell me, if your leg was in a cast from hip to ankle, would you still be expecting yourself to run the marathon in your usual time?
You have a medical condition, man - get that into your head and start behaving like you have one. I know you don't like it, soldiers don't do "ill", I know. But you have, and you're stuck with it for the present, okay?

Maybe try and write a very brief note to your wife for marriage-saving purposes, not a whole long three-volume novel, just short factual "I love you and I know I'm not good right now. But still I love you and that doesn't change because I'm in a bad way. Hope I will be back to usual soon" - just something brief and on paper that she can read and re-read when you're being an arse, okay?

As for the rest... moving home is stressful. What can you do in terms of a 48-hour R&R pause? If you can do something not involving slivovic, that would be good...
Any other ways to get it out of your system? I'm thinking of short-term immediate de-stressing. Rock-climbing? yell your lungs out at a sports game? bloody yoga, I don't know. There has to be something you can exploit now as displacement, to move some of the huge churning stuff out away from your family.

The other thing I know in advance you're not going to like... go back to your doc and talk about meds. Not "ask for meds" but talk about meds, what they do, how they work. You accept that your brain has been re-wired to produce excess chemicals or an imbalance of chemicals in certain trigger situations, yes? So why not utilise one of the meds designed to limit the excess or to maintain the balance - I wonder about something like a beta-blocker (originally designed for use in heart patients, prevents your pulse rate going above a certain level so prevents part of the surges of stress hormones from bringing on that pounding pounding pounding in your head). Stress chemicals are hormones, same as insulin. If you developed diabetes and could no longer maintain your own natural insulin levels, you would be using the synthetic insulin, yes? This is just the same as diabetes but it's diabetes of the soul, so to speak...
Finally, just like early diabetes, there are things that can control the imbalances that aren't meds: the food you eat, the liquids you drink, the exercise you take, all that stuff. Probably not right now, though. Right now, you need to find a way to re-direct some of that churning power, you need to reassure your family and you need to have a long discussion about what meds are available and how they work.


Oh yeah, and vent on here :)


Yrs, A Harpy
 
Alan, looks like you opened up a can "O" Harpy! LMAO. They will set you straight. Wished I had a garage to go sit in for some quiet time cause it is cold here. Jimmy it looks like you are in a good mood you can see good enough to see I can't spell metre. TEX
 
All I did was go and sit in the garage. Its not like I attacked her with a bayonet. The positives of this are it gave me some thinking time.And its brought my chest infection along no end. I think I spewed up a kidney this morning. Luckily for me baby jesus gives you a pair as kit issue.
Tex, help me put these howler monkeys back in their bags.
WIfe, I see where are you going with the team thing, but really the talking, its not going to help. Where do you start with all that? I don't like going for pizza because of the war? No, some things are best left buried. I can go through the motions of some kind of emotional relationship with my family I'm sure. Its not that I hate them or anything like that. Its just sometimes all a bit difficult.
Jan, the medicine stuff, I'm not sure of. I'm a bit frightened making that step really on a couple of things. (sorry about the terrible grammar there). Firstly, I'm frightened what effect it will have. I want to try to fix myself. Secondly, its like admitting there is a problem. You know what our lot were like, outside pretty nails, not like them JNA or HV types. They were just totally gay with all this... ooooh vojnik, I'm having a bit of a problem with all this. Yeah no shit kamerad, just keep firing. In the back of my mind (and its really wrong) I look at some of the guys on here and think wowza, they are f**ked. I am NO WAY that bad! Thats pretty unfair of me I know.
What I do as a release is drink plum based restoratives, and hit concrete with a hammer. I sit outside and hammer the floor. Not hard, just softly. And have a bit of a cry. I think I can deal with things myself, if I could just get a grip on things a bit.
Genius eh?
 
Just giving you some perspective from your wifes point of view mate,thats all no stress intended,you seem to be able to express yourself quite freely on here,so I just think your missing out on doing yourself a favour by not talking to the one person in the worly who should understand and be able to help you cope.I know you haven't physicaly hurt your wife but believe me the emotional toll of not knowing wtf is up with you/has set you off will be just as hard for her.Theres been days on end when my blokes been "in his own space" when I've honestly thought that if he just slapped me one and had a big row to clear the air it would be easier.I dont think its unfair at all that you feel your not as f'd up as some of the other guys,neither was my hubby a few years ago when he was displaying similar behaviour to yours!!! would hate to find another couple where the bloke thought he was "handling stuff in his way" end up in the position we are in just now....Going through the motions with emotional stuff is like papering over the cracks on a wall,at some point the plaster needs repairing ,its just delaying the inevitible.Wont post anymore on this one,sorry if I added to your stress,just trying to give you the benifit of hindsight from someone who's watched as thier man went down that road......Sue.
 
Comrade, its all good. And its probably more helpful than hitting concrete with a hammer. What you are saying is pretty near to where we are, thats probably why I don't like hearing it.
 
Alan,

There's a difference between "having a problem" (and yeah, I know exactly what you mean "suck it up and driiiive on, boy!") and being stricken by a medical condition.

It's not that you have "allowed" this to happen, or that you've "let" yourself develop a problem. This is something that has happened TO you, from outside.

I understand not wanting the kind of meds that alter your thoughts, but the kind I mentioned, the ones developed for heart bods, all those are doing is like how aspirin stops your kids' temperature rising any further when they're ill, yeah? It's a limiter, stops your pulse racing faster than a certain level. Just an idea - there is often an idea that "meds" must mean psycho-active meds, but there are a lot of meds that can help which work on the rest of you.

Yep, hammering the concrete softly and crying into your racek can help. Gives your kids an excellent example to follow for their adulthood problems... [Note: this may well have been sarcasm, please check the User Manual for details]

Nobody's pushing you into stuff. If this forum is the most you've talked about it since then, I'm not surprised you're getting it overwhelming you from every angle. Mine's surged back up since I started reading here, I know. It does that. Just learnt to accept that it does stuff that isn't helpful...

I still reckon you should give your wife a note to let her know you love her, deep under the flippancy and cynicism and excellent impression of Doc Cox from 'Scrubs' (y'know the actor was in 'Platoon', just to add another layer of ironic wry smile...).

Now, will you quit with trying to shove me back in that cage?!?!?

:)


Harpy-Jan
 
Oh f*cking hell! They are all at it now! talk to the wife, write to the wife, take tablets... Where the f*ck are them garage keys? ahaha! See what I did there?
 
LOL ....NB. just so there is no misunderstanding,I would never advocate anyone slapping thier missus,especially if thier right hook is as good as mine and they are filled with pent up angst......
 
oh,and as a parting shot,wasn't it stuffing monkeys into bags that got many of us here in the first place?? Let your monkeys go free range,much less stressful....
 
Man you really got em going. The meds can work as some may say but plan for a low to zero sex drive, blan to no emotions, and hell maybe you won't get it up. Then you may find one that works and it doesn't effect your blood pressure. I have noticed that people that are not taking phsyc meds sure do advocate them. I've been put in the hospital with blood pressure 176/116 with a pulse rate of 115 at rest (it has been months I am pretty sure that the numbers are right) I was in the process of having a miny stroke at 36 from meds. I have a permanent shake and tremor from meds and for a guy that used to shoot percision long distance this really sucks. Not trying to pick a fight here but I see a lot of projecting ideals on to vets that are generally what a person wants out of thier vet when if they were accomplishing all the mater of fact advice they would not be on here. When somebody says they are not a talker that is just the way it is you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. On here a person has the freedom to say as it pleases what they want but we are not all clairvoyent and we can't put it in someone elses perspective. We all seem to champion our side carer vs. vets so in Alans defense how do you know that lets say take away the PTSD his wife wasn't being a (discriptive word Alan's choice on the pizza day). I don't like the fact that some people seem to see PTSD as the answer for every single relationship problem. People leave everyday because they don't love someone, people fight everyday because there pissed, and people shut down in relationships because they are not in love, satisfied, and maybe they feel trapped and don't know where to go. I could name a shit load but I think that I made my point that PTSD is not the cause of everything and meds are not the hole answer and they do have nasty side effects and if we are on here keep an open mind cause evidentily our shit is f*cked up to and we can help but we can't put anything in someone elses perspective unless that person told you exactly what thier thaughts are. We are not there in every situation so quit blamming everything on PTSD couples can just fight I know it can make things worse with PTSD but it is not the magic answer to all marital problems nor is every fight the vets fault. Excample Seren is pregnant and can be a real bitch I know to avoid her when she is cranky I have PTSD is this my fault yah the pregnancy but her being a bitch no. She is nice though she usually tells me in the morning if it is a bad day. Just a rant TEX
 
That's the problem with people who care. We may not have all the answers, but we try as hard as we can. Sometimes it is hell to be loved, that's the long and short of it.
I only advocate meds for those who are willing to give them a try. I have been on a lot of them and they have helped a lot of vets that I know. Psych issues of any kind are usually a recurring problem and if they are bad enough to affect your daily life, then it's time to get some help, whether it be talk or chemical or both.
I have had tremors for over 20 years because of SSRI meds, but I think it is worth the trade off of being able to function.
PTSD is not always the cause of things, so don't let it be an excuse.
There is a a big difference between self-confidence and Pride. Don't let Pride bring you down. Don't lose that which is most important because of your ego.
Hugs and Prayers
 
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