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My Daughter Got Beat Up By Her Husband Last Night While She Was Asleep

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(((gizmo))) (((gizmo's daughter))) ((( gizmo's granddaughters)))

So glad your daughter is giving back to him everything he DESERVES! I wonder if he is found guilty or pleads guilty to a felony charge if he will ever be able to own a gun legally again. I would think NOT! idk

Your daughter and granddaughters are sooo lucky to have you. :)
 
(((((((Niki))))))))

Thank you so much for your supportive words and compliments. Thank you very much.

If he gets charged with the felony he will not be allowed to own a gun again. But I do not think that is going to stop him. He has his illegal guns hidden at friends houses. The police did not get the illegal gun parts.

But if he is charged, the probabtion officer can do a search on his property anytime they want to. That is part of the condition.

My daughter is giving it all back to him in a serious, I mean buisiness manner. She is very angry at him and is fighting back so hard. She has an excellent attorney plus she has the DA fighting for her.

I do not know how he will plea. It depends on whethor or not he thinks he can get away with it. He wants his guns back and that is all he cares about. If he gets charged they will destroy his guns. Right now they are keeping them for evidence. Big hugs.
 
Gizmo: A suggestion: You daughter could SELL all the ammo and car stuff, and write a check to pay the mortgage. Have her run it by the lawyer first -but since they are still married I think she can do it. So long as she doesn't keep the money...

Make sure she tells her lawyer about the IRS stuff. It goes to character and it is something SHE will have to straighten out with the IRS since she (presumably) didn't file a return if they weren't filing jointly.

Make sure to swear out a statement about the guns at the friends' houses. (With names and addresses if you can get 'em)

Hang in there. Sounds like you guys are doing all the right things. Breathe!
I am so glad you have your daughter back and that she is (finally!) standing up for herself and the person she needs to be.
Love to you both!
 
Ha! There's a great idea, if it flies past the attorney. He might see it as one, more headache, tough call there? I think the ammo, yes, she can get rid of it because of what it IS, no one can force your daughter to keep it in her home. Guns would be more dicey, as well as the car as far as property ownership. It's not at all fair, but I 'think' owners of property can sue you if you get rid of their 'stufff' without some official notice of intent to do so unless it's collected. There's a time limit, though, he can't just leave this stuff there forever with zero plan to retrieve it. The guns of course, hmmm. he can't retrieve them if he's not allowed to own them. I don't know what the law would be there, and yes, I'm guessing if he's forbidden guns and is caught keeping them at someone else's house, he's REALLY up that paddle-less creek.

OH boy, so he claimed the girls as HIS dependents, and of course your daughter did also? He's in a lotttt of trouble, depending on how interested the IRS would be. They don't play around, he'll get his taxes re-done for that year PLUS a whacking huge penalty plus they'll threaten jail time, goody! Boy, he couldn't be happy with just the regular tax-check everyone else on the planet gets, he HAD to go for more, huh?

I don't know. It WILL be terribly hard on your nerves, of course, and your whole family if he choses trial. But, because it taxes terribly strained public resources by refusing to go through other, less expensive routes which could easily solve the problem, judges and other employees are understandably resentful when people like him INSIST on trials, you know? Yes, we all have the right to trial, but geesh, it should be used for prosecuting threats to society not pouting wife abusers who should plea themselves into some just sentence. In other words, things will not go well for him if he insists on a trial unless he would have a GREAT case. He does not. It's an awful case, he's guilt as cr*p with an already p*ssed-off judge. His lawyer will be able to retire early, saying 'Oh, sorry, oops!', having talked him into it in the first place. Gotta love our court system sometimes, huh?

All this energy, all this aggravation and money and time, makes me a little crazy when I think of alllll of these cases and people immersed in this kind of thing. SO unfair, but you're one of the strongest families I've seen coming through all this. It's VERY nice to see, even if it doesn't feel like it. Please don't think I think it's all over, I realize it's not. It's just that HE is kind of under someone's legal thumb at the moment plus is huffing and puffing and no one's house is falling down. For all of us out here who spent a lot of time crawling out from underneath the fallen timbers of our lives, this makes awfully good, comforting reading, you know?

By the way, his attorney should NOT be calling your daughter. That's actually harrassment. I truly do not wish to come across as a pomous know it all, but maybe she should have her attorney tell his attorney to knock it the h*ll off 'or else'. The content alone is a little terrifying, plus coming directly from his attorney, who knows very well your daughter HAS a legal representative? No, this is improper and I'm pretty sure not quite legal? You guys could get wealthy very quickly if she keeps this up, lawyers can get sued just like everybody else.

Much hugs, Gizmo. Please accept the compliment that you're just a plain, old LIKABLE person, makes it so easy to come be in your bleachers and root for you! I got some news this morning which made my stomach upset it was SO upsetting and here I am having talked my way back to 'even'. Mostly. :)
 
Gizmo, I am so so sorry that your daughter is going through this. You being by her side is so important. Words cannot describe how important. When I was in a domestic violence situation my parents abandoned me and I had no-one. I don't really have any practical advice beyond what's been offered here, but I just wanted to tell you that you are awesome and your daughter is so incredibly brave.

Becky
 
Eleanor thank you for the good advice, I will pass it on to my daughter and wait and see what she decides to do. I do not know about getting statements and addresses because he never brought his friends home and she never met them. I do not know where he is even staying.

I am so glad that my daughter is finally standing up for herself and the girls. I am bewildered how she put up with it for so long except he had her convinced that she would not make it on her own without a job or income. I do not understand why she put up with him for so long. The only thing I can figure out is that she has battered womens syndrome. It is a horrible thing to think about how long this has gone on.

She had him move out for a few months, but she took him back. I wish she had gotten a divorce when she kicked him out and it never came to him hitting her. Hugs to you for your advice and support Eleanor.

anni, my daughter never claimed the girls as her dependents. He did. I do not understand all the details about the taxes that he did, but at least the IRS will investigate and it is one more headache and perhaps he will be found owing money. He treasures his money.

Thank you for the heads up on if he chooses to go to trial. They will be divorced by the time he gets a court date. I will pass on the information about consulting with her attorney about the ammo. She really needs to get rid of it. As for the car, I do not think she can sell it because it is in his name. It is a piece of crap car with car parts all over the garage. He will have to get rid of it or lose it when the house goes into foreclosure.

She said she will look for a house to rent close to the girls schools. She does not want them to move away from their schools giving them as much stability as she can.

I hope the part time job develops into a full time job for her. Lucky she still has some time to stay in the house.

You are so right, he is huffing and puffing and things are not going his way. The police took all of his guns in the three gun safes when they arrested him. He had already gotten rid of the illegal ones. That is why it is so important for him to be convicted, then the police will destroy his gun collection. I sure hope he plea deals. I just do not know him and cannot predict what he is going to do. He wants his guns back really bad and I know he knows he will lose his guns if he pleads guilty. A trial will be hell on me.

I just do not know what he is going to choose. He has a snake for a attorney and since she called my daughter one time, she is sneaky and underhanded. I do not know what kind of dirty tricks she would use. I can only pray that she advises him to plead guilty and that he does not have a good case. He has dug the hole for himself with his lies. There is solid evidence against him. The DA would be prosecuting him and they have resources.

I am trying to think positive as I can. I just know that he is mostly focused on getting his guns back. I just hope my daughter can dump the ammo as soon as possible. I told her about the gun club you suggested.

We are doing everything we can possibly do. We are doing the best we can. Times are different now and the law is cracking down on domestic violence. I have to remember that this guy is a big fat liar. He cannot be trusted in any way, and he is staying away from her now and has been. His attorney has to call her attorney and her attorney calls her with the request. My daughter has said no to him twice. Right now she has alot of good cards. I hope she wins the game.

His attorney has tried twice to persuade my daughter to drop the restraining order. She would be crazy if she did that because it is doing its job luckily. He does not want to go to jail.

This is a hard thing to watch my daughter and the girls go through, especially knowing it has been going on for so long.

His attorney has to go on what he tells her. He is a liar and cannot be trusted. I hope he runs out of money on this attorney.

I have a question, when he gets arraigned does he get more bail to pay or go to jail? I will have to ask my daughter to call her attorney.

She is going to her sisters house in LA on Saturday and spend the night and drop off the oldest girl at her house for a weeks visit. I did not know it but her sister went through something similar when she was married to her second husband. He was a real jerk too. I am so glad she has a decent husband who loves and cares for her now.

Hugs and thank you so much for your suggestions, humor which makes me laugh. You are getting me through some hard times.

Becky thank you so much for your kind support. I appreciate it so much. I am so sorry you went through that alone. You must be a very strong person to have survived that. I hope you are in a much better space and your life is a better one for getting out of that situation. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

I cannot imagine how my daughter feels but she said if she did not have the support she would still be with him.
She woke up and is no longer controlled by him anymore. I try to have her call me everymorning so I know that she is ok, because I worry about her and the girls safety from him. Luckily he is obeying the temporary restraining order.

Big hugs to you Becky. Thank you again for what you said to me. It gives me hope for better times for us.
 
Ha! Some things are so striking, aren't they? Like how that coin dropped and she was no longer controlled by him, SO interesting. There are probably members here who could explain why some women can do this. I'm SO loving hearing these stories, and Becky coming here to give you hope is one more person to give you the perfect support. How lovely, plus when I see one-more-survivor, gosh, always wish I could hug them.

I was lucky also, since one of the dynamics abusers use to control women just never, ever worked with me. The one where they convince us it's allll out fault? Well, nope, never fell for that in any of the guises he presented it in because my parents had given me that fully-formed sense of ego which told me this was just plain wrong. It means I think I was scare but not controlled, so probably my biggest problem was I trusted so much across the board ( I'll never do it again, I love you, I need help, I'll change, I don't drink any more, I've never hit a female before blah blh blah ). My poor parents, that WAS their 'fault', I had such a secure childhood, they NEVER, ever lied to me!

OH Good Grief, poor Gizmo, this is just wearing you down like you've been sandpapered, isn't it? That schmuck and his lawyer. I hear Domestic Relations attorney and wince because you have to be willing to just mow over entire familes to do that for a living sometimes. No, not always but far too often it's one like his who doesn't have a doctor, he goes to a taxadermist to get the stuffing put back in.

I'm out of forum time this morning ( of course), had to come say hello and leave hugs, see which part of the sewer that sleezebucket woke up in this morning. If today isn't a great one, I promise yours will be Christmas, your kid's birthdays, and all the 1 cent sales at JC Pennies through history all rolled together compared to mine. My mother has been invited to lunch by my sisters, who for some reason asked me to come also. OH boy oh boy oh boy oh boy and goodie. Now where's my pink kevlar vest and matching combat boots?

(((((( Gizmo )))))))) and XX's too.
 
anni, I am so happy to hear from you. I am trying really hard not to dwell on what is happening and trying not to worry. I had a pretty good day yesterday.

What will be will be. It is out of my control. He is staying away, and leaving them alone and that is a very great thing. He has made his requests through his attorney and has been turned down both times. His attorney is trying to apply pressure to my daughter and it is failing miserably.

She is getting away today. She will go to her sisters house and spend the night. She will be dropping off the oldest granddaughter to stay with her for a week and they will laugh and have a very good time. I think it will be good for them. I will see my stepdaughter next weekend and I cannot wait. She is continually in touch with my daughter and went through a similar situation with her ex so she is very good support for my daughter.

I hope you have a great time with your family. Hugs.
 
Is there an oxymoron clause, with great time/family, one can invoke? My nephew came, who is generally immune to any forces applied across the board, in his life, makes up his own mind with the deliberation of an Army Mule. He was characteristically pleasant, a good guy who will always be a good guy and I don't think you could throw him off a cliff to make the kid do or say anything awful about someone else. He was the bright spot, the rest was stupid. I 'think' we were supposed to feel privaleged to get some time from the sisters, and then have it shown to us that we were missing my grnieces birthday party to which alllllll the rest of the family was coming, from far and wide. This bothers me not at all, but hurts my mother terribly and horribly. We sat at lunch while they discussed some of the folks on their way down here, long story.My Mom has a grgrandaughter she hasn't seen for almost a year, used as a weapon, because my mother won't hand a house over to my niece and her mother, true story. So anyway, it was nice to see my nephew, it was also the first time in a year my mother has been allowed to see any grandchildren other than my kids ( she has, or had TEN ).

It's awfully nice to read about your family, yes, awful what you're going through, but it all just makes you guys closer and value each other more. As it should be. When this is all in your rear-view mirror, all your dynamics will have shifted and changed yet again, like they do in families, and for the better. Also, as it should be in genuine growth. I have a 'thing' about light coming out of darkness, it's a recurring ( and probably boring by now ) theme I realize I get on to sometimes here in the forum where there's an awful lot of dark. It IS true though. It seems to be one of the ways God comes through for us on a regular basis, you know? I know when all of a sudden it was just me and my husband, and Mom and Dad facing his illnesses and alllll the massiveness of what on earth was required in keeping their lives going after they'd been dropped flat, it WAS a lot. Not their fault. They had dotted all their i's, crossed all their t's, then others had pulled the rug out. Sure, tons of time and energy but I had a BLAST, you know why? They were a KICK to hang out with, that's why! I got to know them better in that last year than I would have been able to do had it not been for my sister's perfidity and heartlessness and greed. Light out of darkness and except for their pain, I would not change a thing.

Now, I am requiring God to show me Mom's light right the heck NOW, so there may be some holes in my theory but am pretty sure He'll show up for her with bells on.

I'm seeing it in your family beautifully, though. Nice, isn't it? From your daughter staying on top of the wave to him staying the heck away from you and your family, to your step-daughter's support, just all of it, tons and tons of plain, old Light.

Thanks for reading ALLLL of that, too funny, all those alerts but it's SO, so appreciated, thank you! I blah blah blah alot, so GOSH I hope you did a ton of skimming, poor Gizmo!!

(((((( Hugs )))))))
 
anni I think you are a wise and wonderful person. You have accomplished so many hard things in your life and your parents life. I am sorry that some of your family are being such douche bags. But you are so strong, clever, smart, and sensitive that I a confident that light will come out of the dark for you and your mom. Sorry they are keeping a child today. Poor child being so messed up and torn by sick and dysfunctional adults. They are so greedy and grasping and downright cruel and major game players. Very toxic people to spend any time with. I think you are simply amazing..you have been through so much with them.

I so appreciate everything you write to me. It is keeping me going and gives me something to look forward to. You have such a wonderful sense of humor and I love how you describe things, so right on.

I hope to go over to my daughters house to visit her today. But if she stayed up all night talking and laughing most likely not.

My daughters husband arraignment is coming up like a freight train. He wants his guns back and is so focused on that i do not think he will go for the plea deal. He has buried himself with his lies. I will hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

He needs his job. He is in the army reserves. Going to jail will cost him both things.

I find it funny that he filed for divorce because he lost his hold over my daughter and she is fighting back with a vengeance.

I too am glad she has so much good support and validation.

I have something to look forward to, when my stepdaughter and her husband bring back the oldest granddaughter from the week visit, we will all get together. My husband is so excited about this and is so looking forward to it. He really loves his daughters and the girls.

I think he gets lonely. He sure does not have much of a life anymore. He has an appointment with his psych doc and is looking forward to that very much. Every day he asks me what time is his appointment.

I love the fact that so much light is coming out of our darkness. We will survive and go on supporting each other.

I am really trying not to worry about what her husband is going to do next. I think I am weary of the fear and the worry.
It is out of my control and whatever happens I only hope that alot of good will come out of it.

I really hope I will be able to get out of here if only for a short time. I want to write my daughter a check to give her some spending money and find out how her sister is. Her sister has MS and she is the most positive person I have ever met.

I am really looking forward to getting together. She will do my husband so much good.

Mucho hugs to you dear friend.
 
I am having computer problems again. It has to do with my mouse on my laptop. For now I am struggling with it.I will keep trying until it does not work anymore. I sure hope I do not lose my computer for two more weeks. I have so much going on.

Thank you for your support. It has meant so much to me.
 
Dear Gizmo

Just my thoughts, for I know, you're already going through so much:

Do you have someone in private, you trust, and who would be able to do a "short check" = telemaintenance on your laptop via free Microsoft program "Teamviewer"? Maybe it's just the mouse driver that had to be downloaded again, or the mouse has a damage? Or your computer might got a virus? There could be a lot of things, that maye don't need a paid repair service...

I send you a bunch of good energies and I'm going to light a candle for you right now. Hope it helps a little. :tup:
 
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