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My husband died today

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Thanks Medic72. I think another thing may happen is that in our loss, we become more aware of the signals and salutes we begin receiving. Some are dramatic and others are evident only to us. There was another time when I had taken my daughter out of school for a check-up and stopped by the same park (it is also where my wife and I were married, and where my daughter has married since).

The day was unseasonably warm and sunny. Flowers had begun to bloom early, and the air was amazingly full of their scents. My daughter occupied herself by hunting for feathers, but she called me very calmly to look. A small wild rabbit had hopped to her from one of the flower beds..It had stopped at her feet, crouching so that my daughter could kneel down and pet it for several minutes. Then it left the way it came, leaving my daughter and me happily mystified.

Other things have happened in different locales, and they assure me that my wife is in me now.

I'm glad you accept that kind of thought.:hug::hug:
 
Suicide.

Not many people out there in the world even get what it is or how it can happen to someone. I understand it from a cognitive standpoint and from an emotional standpoint, I have felt that trapped before and several times since my trauma 8 years ago. I know how suicide can happen so damned suddenly. I know how logic fails and gets replaced by the only escape route. I know how quickly anger and fear and sadness can rope your mind in and the only way you know to escape is to die - in those moments, in the grips of that darkness when you grapple with life itself, there seems to be no other way out. Your troubles seem insurmountable, you're exhausted and you no longer want to deal with them. You're angry and you reason using emotion and not logic. You convince yourself that this is the best option, that this will solve everything and that people will go on without you.

People do go on without you, but they go on broken. Some may fall into the same trap, lost in their own despair they too will make that inescapable decision. The pain you suffered doesn't just go away, it merely gets disseminated amongst others who are left to survive your decision. I know, that sounds like a guilt inducing thing to say, but it's the truth and it's not meant in any way to stigmatize those who commit suicide, rather it just is what it is. I will never blame those who make this choice simply because from my point of view, it is not a conscious choice, it is a crisis induced decision, it is rash and void of logic - it is the result of a brain that is malfunctioning. It is not the fault of the person who dies that they could not "hold on" to their life, all they knew was, in that moment, this was the only choice and it made sense to them.

It's not supposed to be for us to make sense of. It is not for us to judge from our outside perspective. It is merely for us to accept, adjust, forgive and carry on in the best way we can.

I'm getting tired of people judging my husband because of what he did that day. They didn't know what he was going through. They didn't know how much pain he was in. They didn't see him broken, or crying or being hard on himself, blaming his body for being defective, or depressed because of the perceived lack of love in his childhood...they didn't see how hard he took to criticism at work, how the stress of dealing with my PTSD only added to the stress of the crap he had to deal with at work. They didn't see how hard he tried to shield me from all of that. They didn't see him making a martyr of himself and me pleading with him to just talk to me - retraumatizing or not. No one lived in this house with us, no one loved him like I did. No one has any ground to stand on when they choose to judge a person who is no longer here to defend himself.

I loved my husband. I have PTSD. His death is not my fault. Please do not say to me, "Well, it couldn't have been easy on him...." What in hell kind of message are you trying to send to me? Perhaps a little compassion and hold your tongue when you speak about the love of my life.

Please do not insinuate that he was "always depressed and angry" because anyone who knew this man, truly knew him, knew how full of life he was, how he was silly, how he smiled at everyone and despite those rare instances where he had his guard up to protect me, he loved his life with me. He told me every day. He hugged me and kissed me every day. He told me that I made him a better person, that I made his life better....just as he did for me.

Oh and if you want to speak to me about God and judgement, then hold your tongue! Or so help me I will rip it from your mouth. People who commit suicide are the ultimate in "lost souls". They are blinded by pain and anguish, things you've never likely experienced in your sheltered existence! Do not insinuate that my husband is burning in some hell you've been taught to believe in. Do not stand on some high and mighty pedestal and purport to tell me that the things We believed and I strongly hold true too, are wrong! How dare you judge my husband in that way??? How dare you judge anyone in that way? Did your religion not teach the principles of forgiveness and compassion for those who are lost?

I grew up with the concept of judgement, it was hammered into me by religion, religions created by man. My husband was a Catholic...can anyone else tell me how bad that religion feels about suicide? When a cousin of mine committed suicide when I was young and the priest refused to do the funeral, I felt if there was someone in the world more against the tenets of religion, it was that person who stood unwaveringly above everyone else placing himself and his beliefs above all else. Where is the compassion for your fellow human being and doing things for the sake of the living? No, to me this was never right.

I'm sorry I'm up on some pedestal right now too but I just get so angry with people judging him and subjecting me to their "humble" opinions. I refuse to accept this type of thing anymore. If anyone else says anything remotely judgey to me about my husband, they are going to feel the wrath of my own tongue.

Sorry, everyone. Just expressing my anger and frustration today.
 
Suicide hurts those that are left, yes. But I don't for a second hold to the common statement that it is selfish or selfishly motivated. I believe it is born out of unbearable pain. I believe in heaven and I believe that suicide can absolutely get someone to heaven. My life was saved because of the suicide of someone close to me and I believe with everything in me that I will see him again some day in heaven. Some people don't believe as I do. That's fine. My beliefs are just that - mine. I don't have all the answers. Nobody does. We are all flawed, and that's okay. I am so sorry for your loss, but I am also thankful for the love you shared with him. Nothing can negate that. You seem so strong and compassionate and wise in addition to the hurt. Thank you for sharing your journey. It brings up a lot of emotion and thought in me, at a time when I have been feeling especially disconnected.
 
You dear, have had the privilege of an honorable, true love. Many people never know that feeling, even for a moment. I fully understand your feeling. I have it. I salute your anger at small-minded people who have to settle for mythology lessons to sooth their own self-doubts.

When it gets down to it, some people are secretly jealous that you know with certainty what they may never know. You didn't settle for less.
 
I find that most people are incredibly ignorant about suicide.
The pain you suffered doesn't just go away, it merely gets disseminated amongst others who are left

Yes, this is so true. This pain, as if a life unto itself, gets too much to bear. But the ending of one's life does not end the life of the pain.

I think I can see this, for myself, as one reason not to commit suicide. It seems like the suicide will end the pain, but it won't. Maybe there is a way to give up some of the pain so it's not so much to carry.

I'm sorry you have this extra layer of complexity to your husband's passing. It's the added layers that make things beyond difficult. Thank you for sharing your clear angry thoughts. They burn through all the misconceptions.
 
I'm am sorry you are going through this. People say stupid, insensitive things. My situation is different than yours. When I recently found out my daughter had been molested. Someone said, "it could have been worse, she could have been killed?"

Really? How does this help me?

I understand your anger. It is justified.

Hugs and much love.
 
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