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My Ptsd Behavior And Relation To Others

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WarBreed

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We've all heard of the common PTSD behaviors; nightmares and violent sleep, alcoholism, sitting in the corner in public places, etc. I wanted to write this post, though, to share a completely different behavior I have recognized looking back at the years gone by. There are so many ways the beast presents itself and, unacknowledged and untreated, so many ways it controls our lives. And I wanted to make an acknowledgment of our supporters.

I spent many years going back to Iraq and Afghanistan to get away from "normal life." I rarely felt like I could function properly in the States and I preferred to be in a war zone over spending time with my family. I felt like I was more stressed out being in everyday normal situations in the States than when I was working insane hours with huge demands while deployed. In retrospect, the reason I had so much trouble with that was because normal life meant letting people back in, allowing myself to have emotions, and getting close to people again. Even when I thought I wanted to, I was completely unable to. And I subconsciously lived my life in a way that ensured nobody would get too close. I embraced my lack of emotions and believed myself to be born to die in war. It seemed like so many of the people close to me in war died there or took their own life after returning. Until two weeks ago, I had never let anything I could lose get that close to me.

The first part of that was making sure I stayed deployed as much as possible. I was barely in my 20's when the war started. Then I spent just over 110 months deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, part or all of every year, between 2001 and 2013. I didn't have to let people get close to me there and it was a place for me hide from a normal life. It was a place where my aggression and anger were encouraged, because they got the job done. The other classic symptoms didn't stand out, because we were in a war zone and they were normal behavior there. And my reckless lack of fear of death was considered courage. The war zone was a safe place for me, because the "beast" was alive and well inside of me. Looking back, I wonder if I was just going back until I finally died there.

The second part was I maintained a level of bravado, chauvinism, and crass disregard for others. I manipulated everybody in my life. A large part of my job, my career, was based on deception and manipulation and I was very successful. I guess that is somehow the way I justified using that same approach in my personal life. I talked shit and crudely "pounded my chest" with the guys and talked a game that supported my disregard for the world. I manipulated women, not for sexual gain, but for a sense of control over not being emotionally involved with anyone else. I used sexual contexts in my conversations to play their emotions, something I considered weakness in them.

And, of course, I made the commonly seen mistake after finally getting away from all just over a year ago of it of taking out my anger on the people closest to me and disregarding their emotions, writing it all off as their not being able to understand and taking things too personal that had nothing to do with them. I saw their open emotion as weakness and it made me angrier. It made it that much easier to subconsciously keep them at a distances even while I consciously thought I was trying my damnedest to be closer to them.

Reality hit me like a Mack truck when my wife left me a couple of weeks ago. I looked back on all of that with a clarity I had never before had. I had been coping with my PTSD in an amazingly destructive manner and had, in turn, destroyed the best thing in my life...the one and only thing I wanted. After she was gone and I had this amazing (and disgusting) realization, it was like I felt every emotion I had avoided over the past 13 years. And for the first time in my adult life, I let go of that need for distance and gave my whole life, heart, and soul to her. But there is a very realistic probability she will never see past who I was. The damage was severe. I hold hope that I have not completely destroyed all that love and strength I now realize she showed me all those years.

All that to say, I see a lot of what I now realize of myself in others. And I don't think it can be said enough that even though the people that love us often don't know how to deal with the beast in us, it is so damned important to realize and acknowledge that they are trying their best and it takes a lot of love, strength and forgiveness for them to weather our storms.
 
WarBreed

You may not realize it yet but you have made a huge step forward. It took me much longer to recognise the same problem.

Until two weeks ago, I had never let anything I could lose get that close to me.

The stuff that you shared is more commonplace than what we imagine it to be. For the best part of 25+ years I used every sort of social lubricant known to man to mask my inability to FEEL. It was not until those temporary elixirs were no longer an option did I realize the extent of my inability let someone close to me.

This was the hardest thing I've ever had to deal with mainly because it directly impacts what is good in my life. I've been dealing with it for over 40 years and to this day my wife still considers me a "emotional wasteland". Don't get me wrong I love her dearly and will be forever grateful that she hung in there all these years. I can now even say it, on occasion, but to show it I still have a way to go with very little time. This is the underbelly of the beast and where I'm most vulnerable.

Not sure if the relationship can be salvaged only you and yours can make that decision. Good Luck!

Ba
 
It's not too late to make a grand gesture to show her that you're sorry, that you do care, and that you're now willing to get the help you need. Make these grand gestures over and over until they work. She probably wants to see to what lengths you will go in order to chase after her.

If your marriage can't be salvaged, then it'll be a very rough learning experience.
 
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Thanks for the words, Ba and Raven. I think it is going to be a long time to find out if she considers the relationship salvageable. On the pros side, she has not filed for divorce and says she has thought about it, but not actively looked into it; she's talking to me on a daily basis, only email and Messenger, no phone; and she is still very supportive of me being there for doctors' appointments (she's 10 weeks pregnant). On the cons side, she has made it clear we will not be living in the same house when I get back to the States, at least once or twice in every conversation she gets really angry and goes through some of the shitty stuff I did, and she has said multiple times she doesn't think the anger is ever going to go away.

We are not arguing. I pretty much agree with all of the stuff she says about how horrible I was to her. I've never been physically abusive to her (or any woman), but I have been verbally abusive and I know she gets intimidated when I'm angry. My focus right now is living better, being better to the people around me, and making sure I remain cognizant of what is real and what is the beast.
 
I watched a movie last night. It was called Taking Chase.

I cried the whole time. During the movie I realized why I don't like to admit to people that I was in the Marines. I don't really feel like a Marine. I honestly feel the only real Marines are the Dead ones. They gave everything. I feel like I failed. I should have been one of the dead. Like I didn't do enough to keep my fellow Marines alive, I failed them and it should be me that is dead. Somehow I wont feel at peace until I join them in death.

So I feel more like a failure. Add to it that I am older, overweight and I only walk with a limp... I don't have a missing limb or a caved in skull to show the world I was worthy. I do have scars but they don't display much. I still look at being wounded as another failure on my part. Something that just shows I f*cked up.

I realize this is survivors guilt. I know its not supposed to be how I should see things. But it honestly is my reality.

War, I f*cked up a marriage, but she was messed up as well and the marriage was doomed the day I said "I do"

I know that its hard man. I doubt you can recover the relationship. I hope you can. I am glad your looking at things and trying to figure out how to fix them. That's a great start to figuring out PTSD. There is a lot more than that... Your going to need a LOT of time with a therapist. Maybe some meds to help with the rage/stress. But its not all done overnight. Im glad you are figuring out that things needed to change.

Welcome to the forum. Semper Fi!
 
My Brother,

There's a line from a movie that put things in perspective for me. "With every man I kill I get farther from home". The way back is long and hard. But, believe there is a road back.

You didn't destroy any of the things that made your life worth while before you became a warrior. You set them aside because they got in the way of business in the killing fields. All the good things are still there. You must make finding them the number one priority in you life.

Never stop trying. Stay in the present. It's the only thing you can change. And, above all don't beat yourself up. Give yourself credit for trying even when things don't work. What failed at one point may be a success the next time.

SD
 
As a woman who has been pregnant, I can relate to her.
As a vet with CPTSD, I can relate to you.
For noth your sakes and that of your future child, I hope you find a way out of this maze.
Being close to someone is scary, real scary.
Please, just don't give up now and a pat on the shoulder for understanding what is happening. that's a biggie already.
 
I hate the beast I call it the monster. I feel the monster doesn't want her. It wants her gone bc she gave me support the monster wants my soul my life. Thanks everyone. But I think it's over and I hurt inside she was the one the love of my life. Off to drink some more.
 
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