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My Therapist Didn't Believe Me?

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My T often uses my own words in his notes. He is always ready to get a session started by referring to the last session's notes. Once he read the whole set of notes that he had typed up to see if I had any corrections to what he had written down as his interpretation of what I had told him.
I have the feeling that I could ask him to read them every time if I wanted to.

Mybosstheenemy - I replied to your other thread too. My experience with insurance companies in this kind of situation is that they will drag their feet on paying anything and everything they can. They don't care about you or your wife, it's only about saving money through the fine print. They are not on your side and never will be. The most appropriate help at this point may be legal help, which would provide a cushion between your family and the system (a system that will have no regard for your feelings or situation). Is your wife on meds? If things are so bad maybe they would help even in the short term. At least something to take on the really bad days. Don't know the situation as you didn't say. Take care.
 
I have similar issues with my insurance company. They sent my therapist a letter saying that I have had X amount of sessions & once I meet another magic number that I would have to get authorization for future sessions. Even though my insurance doesn't have a limited number of sessions. Apparently, I should be "fixed" by now.
 
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I'm so sorry to hear that! Nothing like a private insurance administrator getting between us and our doctor!

There's a bill in IL to force insurance companies to cover mental health, autism, and substance abuse treatment. Hope it passes...
 
IchBin, this is one of the reasons I periodically check my records if that voice in my gut tells me things aren't right with drs of any kind, not just tdocs. You have the right to suppress or correct medical records as well as receive them.

I had one session where the tdoc actually came straight out asked me to show him where the scars on my wrist were where I had attempted suicide and had to have stitches. I was so young and stunned that I showed him before thinking, more so as he snickered and he tried using reverse psychology on me saying, "if you really want to do it right you need to cut straight down the vein, that way they can't sew the veins up in time to save you." I thanked him for the information and got up, walked out.

Next time that's what I did, I was 17yrs old but I was so drunk and on so many pills my friends found got to me in time. But loser tells a kid that???

Rain

I bet you all the money that I have that, that T conveniently ommitted documenting that "how to successfully do it advice" as part of their comprehensive record keeping of what actually happened in that particular session!

Thankfully and to your own credit, you were clued in enough to realise that a T like that would do more harm than good.
 
Mybosstheenemy (OMG that was hard for me to type LOL), perhaps it's time to invest in some legal representation. They can take a lot of work off your hands and argue with the insurance companies on your behalf. Some will do it for a portion of the damages so you don't have to pay up front. But just that cushion of not getting phone calls and not getting the letters can make a huge difference.
 
I think many therapists also don't like to share too much information with patients, notes, etc, because without the training you can become easily offended with what you will read. It is like reading a psychiatrist diagnostic evaluation. You can become easily intimidated and offended by reading their interpretation of us from a diagnostic and medical viewpoint.

You then have the problem with people wanting to sue their therapist under the belief of malpractice... so its not in their best interest to share information that will likely save their arse, or by itself, could burn them, if shown in the wrong context or partially.

Where I live, we've got the right to access all our medical files using Data Protection and the Freedom of Information (FOI) Act. However, in both of these Acts there's a specific provision that a request for access to your records can be denied, if in the opinion of the officer that disclosure may be detrimental to your health and well-being. I've direct experience of being denied access to my records and as a health professional myself I see it from both sides.

In the first case, I got access to all my records that was held by a public body, but in all their define wisdom, they decided not to give me access to one particular medical letter from one doc to another doc. Their reason was that this letter if it were disclosed was likely to be "detrimental to my well-being".

But at the same time in denying me access they also had to comply with another provision of FOI, where if access is denied because its considered likely to be detrimental, the organisatin must also offer you the right to have that record disclosed to a third party which would be your General Practitioner (GP), if you so choose.

While I understand the need for appropriate safeguards in any disclosure of records, when it comes to the country that I live in, I also firmly believe that we need a legislative amendment, that creates an onus on doctors, hospitals and public bodies, to put in place appropriate safeguards when deciding on requests for access to records.

Key amongst those safegaurds in my opinion, is that any decision to grant or refuse a request for access should be clinically informed, contemporaneous and up to date, and based on your current clinical status and not a past medical history, and with an obligation to establish what your current medical history is. Most important is that any decision should be proportionate to the level of risk that's actually involved.

Otherwise, what's happening is that this particular provison is being used willy nilly by clinicians, hospitals and various public bodies to refuse access without showing good cause,. So in essence, its being abused.

In my own case involving the public body, I ended up having to take the case to the Office of the Information Commissioner (OIC) for an independent review. Part of my own case, was that this organisation including the in-house doctor that formed this opinion, who never ever met me, let alone assessed me, was basing his opinion on one historic record that wasnt relevant to the present day. More disturbingly, was that while a doctor is duty bound to make informed decisions in all other areas of practice, it is somehow ok for them to form quite arbitrary and uninformed opinions on what my current MH status is, and what is was likely to be detrimental to my own well-being. Thankfully, the OIC ruled in my favour and overturned the decision of the public body.

The second case involved a psychiatrist, although he did give me the option of either having supervised access to the records with himself, or to nominate disclosure to a third party which would have been my GP.

At this stage I had enough! The records were historic in nature, and to put this in context this guy hadn't seen me since he discharged me from his OPD clinic when I complained about a practitioner he had referred me to, some ten years ago. Eventually, I did manage get access to get full access to the med file, after taking it to internal review in the organisation.

To cut a long story short, when I did get unrestricted access, this med file showed that he failed to undertake a proper clinical assessment and that many of the symptoms were present in those early years, but he failed to pick up on them!

So yes, Anthony sometimes when doctors refuse to grant access to your medical records, its less to do with what they may consider likely to be detrimental to your own well-being, and more to do with protecting their own arse in the medico-legal sense. That's especially the case, if it involves misdiagnosis, or if the Dr's records contain prejudicial, unfounded or derogatory statements about the data subject.

It's ironic, medicine tells them to alway's think medico-legally, and to never ever admit wrong-doing for fear of being sued. But some of the research on some of the reasons behind why people do sue, has also found that people are least likely to sue, if only the doctors were completely open and transparent and said sorry once in a while, rather than adopt the approach of that's coined Defensive Medical Practice.

My own opinion is that some of these kind of opinions to refuse access can often be grounded in quite paternalistic behaviour....like doctor know's best!

More to the point, decisions to grant or withhold access to records, can also tell us alot about the nature of the therapeutic relationship that did or does exist between the Patient/Dr/Therapist, including the level of respect and trust that may or may not exist.

What is often highlighted in these sort of cases, is the negative attitudes that some Dr/T's have themselves towards mental health and the very idea of recovery. That also raises the very important question about how do we as a society deconstruct many of the myths that surround mental health, if those who are involved in the treatment of people with MH difficulties, are the very people who are perpetuating and reinforcing those very same myths.

What bug boiled me, was that I may have PTSD, but I have not lost the capacity to decide what's in my own best interests!
 
I agree, we call it "Nothing about me without me", I'm not a child I'm a client. In my case, even though married, I am my strongest advocate and need access to full and complete records at all times. I have spoken candidly to both my pdoc and tdoc regarding this and have been as clear as possible. It was actually a past therapist that made the suggestion that I be in charge of my medical records if I had so many concerns and then I got more involved in what was going on instead of feeling so helpless. It made a big difference for me. I got involve in my life instead of being a passive victim of what was happening to me.

The result is what is going now, I am coming back to myself.

Oh yes, Antiquity, I have no doubts that tdoc threw his tapes and documents away once he was notified by the ER of my little hospital visit because you bet I named him as my current therapist when they were stitching me up. As an emancipated teen there was little more I knew how to do or felt like doing, I was full of rage and pain, soon after I found out I was pregnant and life went on from there. I never mentioned the attempts accept one time and that was 10 years ago when I was speaking in front of a group of therapy students on campus, I suggested being flippant and speaking from your head and not your heart might not be the way to go. I felt like one person got it. I'm glad.

Two years ago I covered the scars up with the name of my faithful 15yr old sheppard that passed along with a very beautiful tattoo hiding all the other marks. So then and now are the only times I've talked about it. I hope it helped show it can be damaging but doesn't stop someone from knowing in their heart that it was one really bad person not a bad professional field.

Rain
 
Fortunately, I held it together and done whatever was necessary to get access to those records. I could have chosen to go the easy route, by doing exactly what they wanted me to do. But me, I am stubborn as hell....and like yourself I'd be a very strong self advocate!

I know from my own experiences that there are some Dr's out there who just dont a clue...and for everyone of those, you also get the doc's that are completely brill!

This is a bit of mindless info...and it was something that I never thought of till I read it. I was reading a book on a related topic, and it made the point that some practitioners may find themselves reacting in a negative manner towards their patients because they just dont know how to cope, deal or handle the information and situation that is now before them. Its possible that for some it comes down to their skills or abilities both personally and professionally.

But I am not making any excuses, as there was no excuse for that doc's behaviour.

Its odd, it can empower you to the point where you can become a very staunch advocate, but at the same time, I will fully acknowledge that these kind of experiences can also add another layer onto the trauma that you are already having to deal with.

You are right, there are only a few bad apples....and they dont reflect the whole of the profession. I've had alot of bad apple experiences unfortunately.....but I've also got two or three doc's who've been brill...:).

I take it Sheppard was your doggie....the tatoo is a nice tribute! I'am presently doing up a photo album of my present and my last two doggies for my wall...just a little a momento:D!
 
I think unless a person has experienced the problem and resolved it they cannot identify with it and cannot help someone else get through it.
I have never had a therapist or doctor that I felt helped me significantly. The greatest help I've had is from friends who love me and show compassion. I have found my answers through my own pursuit over 40 years.
I have a great deal of resentment toward many who charge me for making me feel worse.
 
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