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Groovybaby

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I struggle with being a bad person at the best of times, but my family life is awful. I have let my wife down over and over. I have let my son down over and over. They both resent me. My wife gets bitter when I am anxious about being in certain places. If I can't be out all day she gets mad. If I express that I don't like being at the mall or on base (I am retired military) she gets indignant about it being her fault and says "Oh great, now it will be my fault that you are doing poorly because I sent you there.". She is very supportive in many ways, but if it impacts HER she loses that ability and often says something that hurts. When we argue, she is VERy nasty. She purposefully tries to get under my skin by devaluing what I say, interrupting and letting me know ahead of what I say that it is worthless. She will ignore me if I get loud, and only stay calm if the conversation goes her way. Then it is all "Ridiculous". I respond by going downhill and getting mad. I do break things sometimes. I react as the person that I hate. The angry man. I hate that part of me. I don't know how not to be that guy when she tries so hard to get under my skin during an argument.
 
I hate to sound negative, but support is what people do when they go out of their way to help us. Support isn’t simply a matter of convenience that is self serving.

Support that only exists when it’s convenient to the “supporter” is actually no support at all.

I hate to burst your bubble, but I just want to make you realize what true support actually is.
 
You don't sound like a bad person to me. You sound like a person in a very difficult relationship struggling to deal with trauma issues.

Are you currently in therapy?
I am, but I am not sure if I am making progress in it.

I hate to sound negative, but support is what people do when they go out of their way to help us. Support isn’t simply a matter of convenience that is self serving.

Support that only exists when it’s convenient to the “supporter” is actually no support at all.

I hate to burst your bubble, but I just want to make you realize what true support actually is.
I am sure that I dont' make supporting me very easy.
 
Glad you are working on your symptoms in therapy! You are not a bad person. You are someone in a lot of pain who needs something to change and improve.
she gets indignant about it being her fault and says "Oh great, now it will be my fault that you are doing poorly because I sent you there.".
Where did she get the idea that if you make the choice to do as she requested, any symptoms you have are her fault? Have you ever blamed her for your symptom spikes? Ever told her something like, “I feel miserable now because you asked me to go to the base.”

It strikes me that both of you might need to focus more on what’s in your control, and greater acceptance of what isn’t in your control.

You can’t change her, no matter how unjust or unfair her complaints. But what you can do is focus on you and your choices. She isn’t responsible or to blame for your symptoms either, and needs to let go of the expressions of guilt for them.

If she asks you to go on base or to the mall, it’s reasonable to say you can’t do that. Right now, you may need to encourage her that your symptoms are not her fault. Give her permission to not be responsible for managing how you feel.

It may also help to see if you can offer an alternative option for time together that isn’t so triggering. Address the underlying need she has for connection with you.
She purposefully tries to get under my skin by devaluing what I say, interrupting and letting me know ahead of what I say that it is worthless.
That’s really crappy. That would annoy me too. Perhaps couples therapy could help you both learn to communicate better?
She will ignore me if I get loud, and only stay calm if the conversation goes her way.
Getting louder because she cuts you off? Understandable, but ineffective. Her shutting down once you start yelling is reasonable and fair.

When you express your ideas to her, try using *I* statements. “When you cut me off to tell me my ideas are worthless before I even say them, I feel devalued and hurt.” Then set a boundary. “Because of that, to manage my needs and limits, I will....” whatever it is that you will do. Perhaps not discuss her request to go to the mall or be on base until she can agree to not interrupt. Then actually do it. Don’t just keep escalating to be heard. Do something that helps you manage your anger and then when she finally agrees to hear you out... and, you’ll have to take turns so that you’ll hear her out too.

Supporters don’t generally say they feel like a sufferers symptoms are all their fault for no reason at all. Perhaps somewhere along the way, she didn’t get support in learning how to let go that your suffering isn’t her fault.

This may be a chance to help her learn that you mange you - with all the benefits and responsibilities that entails for both of you. This may be a chance for you both to find a new way forward, and you can take the lead on that.

As for breaking stuff, no judgement from me for doing it. I’ve done it. But, that kind of expression of anger can scare and stress out others. It’s not on her or your son. A good place to start might be to apologize to them both, and let them know you are working hard to change. Perhaps list out some tools you have learned in therapy or in reading info online that you are working to implement to better manage anger. (Talk to other parents - plenty here - and to your therapist abou an age appropriate manner to do this with your son.)

Sometimes, an honest apology, with no blaming others, and actual tangible action steps to change, can go a long ways to help others let go of resentment.

You are taking good steps toward change. Don’t give up hope!
 
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Belitting you and intentionally trying to make you angry are forms of abuse. If she is intentionally telling you that you are worthless then she has a huge problem that she needs to work on, if she says things that make you interpret her words as telling you you are worthless, then you can work through this together.

On the surface, to me it sounds like she is being manipulative and psychologically abusive and you need to get out of that relationship. I do know, however, that having PTSD can cause us to believe other people are intentionally trying to put us down when they’re not and we’re just interpreting their words incorrectly, so I hope it is the latter
 
Glad you are working on your symptoms in therapy! You are not a bad person. You are someone in a lot of pain who needs something to change and improve.
Where did she get the idea that if you make the choice to do as she requested, any symptoms you have are her fault? Have you ever blamed her for your symptom spikes? Ever told her something like, “I feel miserable now because you asked me to go to the base.”
I certainly never blame her for it, but I think it is her frustrations with my limitations coming through. It can be exhausting to take care of someone who has issues, I get that.

Getting louder because she cuts you off? Understandable, but ineffective. Her shutting down once you start yelling is reasonable and fair.
You are correct, she cuts me off or ignores me and I get angrier. I am responsible for my actions, and it isn't helpful for me to be getting louder by any means.
When you express your ideas to her, try using *I* statements. “When you cut me off to tell me my ideas are worthless before I even say them, I feel devalued and hurt.” Then set a boundary. “Because of that, to manage my needs and limits, I will....” whatever it is that you will do. Perhaps not discuss her request to go to the mall or be on base until she can agree to not interrupt. Then actually do it. Don’t just keep escalating to be heard. Do something that helps you manage your anger and then when she finally agrees to hear you out... and, you’ll have to take turns so that you’ll hear her out too.
Supporters don’t generally say they feel like a sufferers symptoms are all their fault for no reason at all. Perhaps somewhere along the way, she didn’t get support in learning how to let go that your suffering isn’t her fault.
This may be a chance to help her learn that you mange you - with all the benefits and responsibilities that entails for both of you. This may be a chance for you both to find a new way forward, and you can take the lead on that.
As for breaking stuff, no judgement from me for doing it. I’ve done it. But, that kind of expression of anger can scare and stress out others. It’s not on her or your son. A good place to start might be to apologize to them both, and let them know you are working hard to change. Perhaps list out some tools you have learned in therapy or in reading info online that you are working to implement to better manage anger. (Talk to other parents - plenty here - and to your therapist abou an age appropriate manner to do this with your son.)
It is made worse by my size, I am a 270 pound boxing coach (now that I am retired) so I can be intimidating I suppose. I hate the thought that I might have scared her in doing this.
I am trying, but sometimes I feel like the constant pressure of having to support me in my things leaves her feeling unsupported for what she needs.
Sometimes, an honest apology, with no blaming others, and actual tangible action steps to change, can go a long ways to help others let go of resentment.
You are taking good steps toward change. Don’t give up hope!
 
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